Put the knife in Gene Mills’ heart.Ryan was a transfer -- and bailed on Syracuse 10 years before the school cut the program.
Put the knife in Gene Mills’ heart.Ryan was a transfer -- and bailed on Syracuse 10 years before the school cut the program.
I want to change my vote from manning to RyanCoaches should never be this stupid.
I actually contacted PSU athletics over this. Asked them if they could start paying me to hate on tOSU and Tom Ryan instead of the Hawkeyes....To the 108 of you that did not vote for Tom Ryan in the pill, you can change your vote.
WhenHe’s one of Gable’s boys ( a transfer from Syracuse no less - wonder if he got that sweet, bogus in-state scholarship equivalence), so he’s defending Gable’s turf. Expect him to be getting real salty if Cael passes Gable with 16 titles.
I'm with you. We can move forward without any transfers and win for the next few years. I'm hoping we do that I'm past transfers after messinbrink who I view differently since he hadn't wrestled an official non redshirt match along with kerk.I guess in my mind there I have a lot more respect for guys who recruit, stay loyal to, and develop the kids. That is the gist of what I was trying to say. I know Virginia Tech and ASU have gotten some kids from the portal and it diminishes the team's accomplishments in my mind.
I also know it is the way things are and I am just getting old and crabby. "NOW GET OFF MY LAWN!""
Why not both?I actually contacted PSU athletics over this. Asked them if they could start paying me to hate on tOSU and Tom Ryan instead of the Hawkeyes....
Haven't heard back yet...
Ever notice he constantly turns to the assistant sitting next to him for validation to whine and they always ignore him?Ryan always looks like he is about to bawl when things are not going his teams way
I get it and I know this is life. I am just saying it is sad to see everyone give up on trying to have something pure and honest and not easily swayed by greed. We all have to fight to live purer lives and do things that are motivated by virtue. The transfer portal and NIL make it very easy to be led by greed. It is just sad to see although it is the way of the world.Kids have learned loyalty from their coaches, who often jump ship for a more lucrative offer after just promising the recruit they'd be there for them throughout their career. I'm thinking football but that applies to all sports. The universities, alumni, and coaches created the blueprint for how collegiate sports will be destroyed now that athletes are doing the same things. You reap what you sow. It is also only a matter of time before an athlete somewhere point shaves as a "thank you" for all that money.
When were athletics pure or honest?I get it and I know this is life. I am just saying it is sad to see everyone give up on trying to have something pure and honest and not easily swayed by greed. We all have to fight to live purer lives and do things that are motivated by virtue. The transfer portal and NIL make it very easy to be led by greed. It is just sad to see although it is the way of the world.
It is kind of like having the olympic basketball team filled with NBA stars. It just isn't the same anymore.
It's as if Ryan saw this poll and tweeted out a challenge brick.To the 108 of you that did not vote for Tom Ryan in the poll, you can change your vote.
That’s one of the three positions he is a Jedi in. Unfortunately for him the other two are making bad decisions, and then loudly claiming to be the victim of said decisions.It's as if Ryan saw this poll and tweeted out a challenge brick.
Like for the "Logan is a JEDI in 2 positions" reference.That’s one of the three positions he is a Jedi in. Unfortunately for him the other two are making bad decisions, and then loudly claiming to be the victim of said decisions.
You got that right. Tan Tom stepped right in the big do-do. We will darken his doorway with endless quips for the next year or two. Of course, Tan Tom and/or CP will claim the points record comment was all in jest.To the 108 of you that did not vote for Tom Ryan in the poll, you can change your vote.
That means we need a shirt with,It’s funny, I’ve seen very little if any chest pounding from PSU over the points record, yet Ryan is spending his time on Twitter 2 weeks later crying about it. It’s good to be the king!
From Buckeye board:
“Coach Ryan will be on Flo live Thursday morning with Christian and the boys.”
“Of course it’s easy to score 172 this year, transfers and all, not even a big deal”That means we need a shirt with,
172.5
100+
Nothing more to be said.
Wear it in Columbus and Carver
He said "We have robes, and they don't!"What was Ryan's quote the year of the match of the century, Penn State has a great team but we have a great program?
Something like that.
You’ll see that in uniform from “rival” coaches, wrestling media, maybe even a few coaches wives. How even after Cael has the record, no one can ever top Gable.He’s one of Gable’s boys ( a transfer from Syracuse no less - wonder if he got that sweet, bogus in-state scholarship equivalence), so he’s defending Gable’s turf. Expect him to be getting real salty if Cael passes Gable with 16 titles.
Manning's early lead can be attributed to recency bias, he has nothing on Ryan.
I am not sure anything is pure, but it is nice to try and push things in that direction. I get your negativity or realism or whatever you want to call it. I just do not think the current situation lends itself to developing the best virtues. Greed is a powerful force and it drives a lot of our decisions. Now we are seeing it more so in college athletics among the athletes.When were athletics pure or honest?
It's realism, and to be equally realistic: there is far less greed today among athletes than during, for example, the 1970s point shaving scandal at Boston College, or the 1980s SMU football players being showered with sports cars by multiple colleges while still in high school, or the 1990s UNLV basketball team hanging out with "The Fixer" from the BC points shaving scandal.I am not sure anything is pure, but it is nice to try and push things in that direction. I get your negativity or realism or whatever you want to call it. I just do not think the current situation lends itself to developing the best virtues. Greed is a powerful force and it drives a lot of our decisions. Now we are seeing it more so in college athletics among the athletes.
How many are doing this, that there needs to be a rule?Somewhere some balance needs to be initiated to prevent the yearly transfers. I have no issue with grad students free lancing. Maybe undergrads get one every 4 years without sitting out.?????
We are seeing it more because it's more public but it always has existed.I am not sure anything is pure, but it is nice to try and push things in that direction. I get your negativity or realism or whatever you want to call it. I just do not think the current situation lends itself to developing the best virtues. Greed is a powerful force and it drives a lot of our decisions. Now we are seeing it more so in college athletics among the athletes.
Greed has been a problem for long enough that it's one of the seven deadly sins (if you're into that sort of thing). Not sure if the 'current situation' qualifier is needed.I am not sure anything is pure, but it is nice to try and push things in that direction. I get your negativity or realism or whatever you want to call it. I just do not think the current situation lends itself to developing the best virtues. Greed is a powerful force and it drives a lot of our decisions. Now we are seeing it more so in college athletics among the athletes.
Don't confuse the fact that you don't like (for whatever reason) college athletes being able to get paid with "greed" on their part.I am not sure anything is pure, but it is nice to try and push things in that direction. I get your negativity or realism or whatever you want to call it. I just do not think the current situation lends itself to developing the best virtues. Greed is a powerful force and it drives a lot of our decisions. Now we are seeing it more so in college athletics among the athletes.
He wouldn't be complaining if the transfers he sought had moved to Columbus.I don't get Ryan's beef.
I'm sure he threw lots of NIL money at his 'historic' 2022 recruiting class.
Is he suggesting buying high school kids is nobler than buying grad transfers?
Ryan has chosen his path. He needs to shut the F-up and show everyone his model works. Until he does, he's just pi$$ing into the wind.
Wow that voting is tight tight tight, Manning and Ryan neck and neckWho is the biggest whiner
Ryan was heard muttering 'I have to be #1 in something'!It's as if Ryan saw this poll and tweeted out a challenge brick.
Funny post from a Michigan fan on Intermat:Manning had an early lead because of recency, but Ryan will eventually swamp him with sheer volume.
“Ryan's issues seem to be that the concussion protocol didn't exist when he was in the Iowa room getting pummeled by the Steiner brothers.”On 4/8/2024 at 9:04 AM, Dogbone said:
Piles mentioned Mesensbrink specifically (probably becuase Ben told him) and Ryan's response was "yes, we have looked in the portal! Never said we haven't"
Ryan's issues seems to be they are getting outbid in the portal and he would rather have unlimited NIL than 9.9 scholarship. None of that has anything to do with Piles original statement. TR is probably projecting his frustrations after watching PSU set the scoring record.
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What this doofus Ryan doesn’t realize is the magnanimity of the PSU margin of victory with NIL in place. Think of all of the quality transfers that UM and Iowa pulled in. No way should a first place team should be able to outscore the 2nd place team by 100 friggin points…especially with NIL.Tan Tom tweet it up today. I like him. Sue me.
Yep. Toss out all four of our transfers, in the age of the Portal and NIL, and PSU still wins nationals running away this year.What this doofus Ryan doesn’t realize is the magnanimity of the PSU margin of victory with NIL in place. Think of all of the quality transfers that UM and Iowa pulled in. No way should a first place team should be able to outscore the 2nd place team by 100 friggin points…especially with NIL.
Take that asterisk and shove it up your Ryan.
We might run on all cylinders one of these years and ring up something absurd - like 185 points.Yep. Toss out all four of our transfers, in the age of the Portal and NIL, and PSU still wins nationals running away this year.
For a guy that I respected quite a bit, each time he pulls this crap, he just lowers himself. In a way it's just plain sad.
The entire 2018 season debacle is eating away at this guy's sanity. He's never going to get over it. Doesn't help that he's not a 'big picture' kind of person.We might run on all cylinders one of these years and ring up something absurd - like 185 points.
And he’ll be handing out “coveted” black shirts to guys finishing 3rd at CKLV.
Cael didn’t come here to beat Lehigh
He's always been that way. Zain beat Stieber because of average officials, a long bus ride, and a touch of flu. Etc.The entire 2018 season debacle is eating away at this guy's sanity. He's never going to get over it. Doesn't help that he's not a 'big picture' kind of person.