I disagree with not taking the weed out classes. If you can place out of them, then you are missing out on many easy A's that bump up the GPA .Adding onto this from a recruiter's perspective:
My 3.1 undergrad GPA was good enough to get interviews from IBM, GE, Boeing, Exxon, etc. That's rare now -- I don't have inteview slots for all of the 3.7s I see at the PSU Career Fair. (Some sub-3.5s do get in, but they need other achievements.)
So IMO all students should do whatever they can to avoid taking the FR/SO weed-out classes at UPark. Place out via AP. Take at a branch campus. Take at a community college. Whatever. If they have to be on the PSU transcript, at least get better instruction.
The classes I'd especially try to take elsewhere are Electro-Magnetic Physics and Differential Equations -- which also means taking their prerequsites elsewhere.
It depends on the student and the format.I disagree with not taking the weed out classes. If you can place out of them, then you are missing out on many easy A's that bump up the GPA .
another BSME 1990 here
Yeah!! So show a little respect.BSME 08. That's 2008 in case anyone got confused. Reading this board everyday kinda made me assume everyone was the same age as me. I guess my brain subconsciously turns you guys into something I want you to be. Weird how the mind works sometimes. I am now realizing that most of you are old enough to be my father!
Differential Equations was a class that damn near killed me. I finally took it during a summer session and got a B.Adding onto this from a recruiter's perspective:
My 3.1 undergrad GPA was good enough to get interviews from IBM, GE, Boeing, Exxon, etc. That's rare now -- I don't have inteview slots for all of the 3.7s I see at the PSU Career Fair. (Some sub-3.5s do get in, but they need other achievements.)
So IMO all students should do whatever they can to avoid taking the FR/SO weed-out classes at UPark. Place out via AP. Take at a branch campus. Take at a community college. Whatever. If they have to be on the PSU transcript, at least get better instruction.
The classes I'd especially try to take elsewhere are Electro-Magnetic Physics and Differential Equations -- which also means taking their prerequsites elsewhere.
this guyJust curious. Who are the people posting here that got an engineering degree at Penn State? I graduated with a BS in mechanical engineering in 1976 and I’m still working at stuff that’s way too interesting to retire.
Did you by any chance have Dr Steve Turns as your Thermo professor? He's an old friend that I knew when I was in 9th grade.Differential Equations and Thermodynamics were the weed out courses. The good thing is I hired a tutor to get through DiffyQ. Ended up marrying the girl. Should have kept her as a tutor. She became expensive as a wife....
Nope I had Dr. Batty.Did you by any chance have Dr Steve Turns as your Thermo professor? He's an old friend that I knew when I was in 9th grade.
@AgSurfer Idaho went to Utah State University.Nope I had Dr. Batty.
Oops! Completely missed that part!😖@AgSurfer Idaho went to Utah State University.
I worked for a corporate engineering firm that was much like the movie Office Space. Drove me insane. I couldn't wait to get out of there.Well, despite being a Sun Devil, that speaks highly of your character. You produce a finished product of value and it is discrete, tangible and good.
People who love the corporate world are usually passive aggressive sociopaths who never tire of meaningless jargon and cliches "paradigm". By the way, your typical government agency is much like the corporate environment.
They don't mind the soul stealing conformity-especially of the cubicle farms- because they already sold theirs. This is especially true of HR, where the worst of the worst congregate to hatch their evil little plans and screw with other people with impunity. There's nothing more useless than HR. I suspect many of them tormented animals and siblings as children.
To quote Scott Adams "like lawyers, without the charm and verbal skills".
This really does capture the amoral vacuity of your typical denizen of HR.
I worked for a corporate engineering firm that was much like the movie Office Space. Drove me insane. I couldn't wait to get out of there.
I now work for a govt agency, and at least our group seems to be fairly well insulated from much of the BS. Or maybe I've learned to ignore it.
I fully agree with you about HR folks. They seem to stir up crap just to justify their jobs.