Kid seems like he’s just itching to go. Love hearing the enthusiasm and really liked his support of Facundo. He’s going to be a good one
I agree. I took out anyone who had a loss, then voted based on bonus %. Alirez earned my vote and I really wanted to vote for CStar, but his mouth gets in my way. Alirez beat Woods who was the #1 seed. I didn't witness anything unsportsmanlike from Alirez.It seems like they are setting up the hodge to allow losses..
I know it’s happened before but it should be a rarity.
brooks, Yianni, O‘toole, and Vito shouldn’t be in the front running.
Wait, you voted objectively? You may have to hand in your fan card. . . .I agree. I took out anyone who had a loss, then voted based on bonus %. Alirez earned my vote and I really wanted to vote for CStar, but his mouth gets in my way. Alirez beat Woods who was the #1 seed. I didn't witness anything unsportsmanlike from Alirez.
I guess it depends on how you view Kerkvliet. Completely controlling him for 3 straight matches is more impressive than anything Starocci did this season imo. Plus a near major over Hendrickson and the attempted murder of Tony Cassioppi in the semis.I'm voting Carter. Bonus % is a fine stat, but the eye test tells me that Starocci is the most dominant wrestler in the bunch. Hell, he would whoop half the AA fatties that Paris beat. You can't beat #1 when you're the king. He beat Mehki, he schooled Labriola who was wrestling the best he ever has. Carter is King.
Kerkvliet is a one time finalist. Hendrickson took third one time. Cassioppi has become Nelson Brands.I guess it depends on how you view Kerkvliet. Completely controlling him for 3 straight matches is more impressive than anything Starocci did this season imo. Plus a near major over Hendrickson and the attempted murder of Tony Cassioppi in the semis.
Starocci failed to score on Nelson Brands.
Parris has my inconsequential vote. He manhandled a really good weightI guess it depends on how you view Kerkvliet. Completely controlling him for 3 straight matches is more impressive than anything Starocci did this season imo. Plus a near major over Hendrickson and the attempted murder of Tony Cassioppi in the semis.
Starocci failed to score on Nelson Brands.
The counter argument would be: Carter didn't face Lewis this year, and both Kerk and Cass are age-group world champs with multiple medals each.Kerkvliet is a one time finalist. Hendrickson took third one time. Cassioppi has become Nelson Brands.
Mehki Lewis is an NCAA Champ and 2-time finalist. Labriola was a one-time finalist and was planted once and dismantled another time. Nelson Brands was a 5th place finisher one time. Not the slouch you make him out to be.
I'm not convinced. The big guys are always going to have a ton of falls. Plus career achievement is a consideration. How do they stack up there?
Yes I did, based on the facts. I love PSU wrestling, but I am a fan of all wrestling and based on criteria Alirez got my vote.Wait, you voted objectively? You may have to hand in your fan card. . . .
I will say, I'm pleased that most of the media folk talking about their hodge vote are only looking at the undefeated guys. I really think when you have 6 undefeated wrestlers, no one with a loss should have a realistic shot. If I was going to vote objectively, I'd vote for Parris, but, I have standards.
Carter did beat Lewis in the all-star match, but I realize it doesn't officially count. I think if he lost that match it would definitely effect his Hodge chances in the voters eyesThe counter argument would be: Carter didn't face Lewis this year, and both Kerk and Cass are age-group world champs with multiple medals each.
If the voters put much weight into career achievement, then it'll be Yianni.
Carter wrestled Mehki in the All-Star Classic. If the committee puts weight into things like heart, sportsmanship, and career achievement, they can consider that match too, no?The counter argument would be: Carter didn't face Lewis this year, and both Kerk and Cass are age-group world champs with multiple medals each.
If the voters put much weight into career achievement, then it'll be Yianni.
Why have criteria at all? Everyone is always saying “the hodge is wrestling’s heisman”. The Heisman doesnt have criteria too my knowledge,its just a straight up vote, much like they are apparently trying to do to the Hodge.
The criteria are merely window dressing. No definitions and no weighting.Carter wrestled Mehki in the All-Star Classic. If the committee puts weight into things like heart, sportsmanship, and career achievement, they can consider that match too, no?
And career achievement is a consideration, not a core criteria. Therefore, Yianni is already knocked out by his loss. If he's not in the final consideration, career achievement doesn't come into play. It does in the case of Carter vs. Mason.
Near major over Hendrickson?I guess it depends on how you view Kerkvliet. Completely controlling him for 3 straight matches is more impressive than anything Starocci did this season imo. Plus a near major over Hendrickson and the attempted murder of Tony Cassioppi in the semis.
Starocci failed to score on Nelson Brands.
12-5 in vegas. 7 not close enough to 8 for ya?Near major over Hendrickson?
For whatever reason I was thinking Hendrickson was undefeated coming into the tournament.12-5 in vegas. 7 not close enough to 8 for ya?
Parris left bonus points behind. He stinks.12-5 in vegas. 7 not close enough to 8 for ya?
And that Yianni loss was no fluke. Gomez dominated Yianni on Yianni's home mat with multiple take downs and nearly a major. The 9-3 score makes it look closer than it was. Also noteworthy that Gomez came into the match 2-1 with a loss of his own already to Paniro, who Yianni barely beat a couple weeks later in SV.I think Mason should win, but I won't be surprised if Yianni does. I don't think he deserves it for taking a loss this year.
Mason =Big musclesHeart = Carter
Head = Mason
jmo, very close call
I had Spencer winning and the field over Yianni, thats why I dont gamble.And that Yianni loss was no fluke. Gomez dominated Yianni on Yianni's home mat with multiple take downs and nearly a major. The 9-3 score makes it look closer than it was. Also noteworthy that Gomez came into the match 2-1 with a loss of his own already to Paniro, who Yianni barely beat a couple weeks later in SV.
Other than his pin of #13 Jackson Arrington at NCAAs, Yianna didn't bonus any wrestler this year ranked higher than #34 (Dylan Chappell of Bucknell).
What he did to Cass was incredible. First time in his career he was brutalized like that.I guess it depends on how you view Kerkvliet. Completely controlling him for 3 straight matches is more impressive than anything Starocci did this season imo. Plus a near major over Hendrickson and the attempted murder of Tony Cassioppi in the semis.
Starocci failed to score on Nelson Brands.
Parris brutalized Cass in their first meeting, a few years ago before Parris bulked up and Cass slimmed down.What he did to Cass was incredible. First time in his career he was brutalized like that.
Yes, he has been pinned in funky scrambles and yes Gable used to takedown drill him for majors. But literally, going on top of him, and just cranking him over was terrifying.
That's old news. He announced he was leaving right after the season started and has been home in wisconsin.Mesenbrink in the portal apparently?
That's an old school bar counter. My assistant high school coach used to show that. A few guys have hit that on Spencer too. Not for reversals, but it gets them out of trouble.Parris brutalized Cass in their first meeting, a few years ago before Parris bulked up and Cass slimmed down.
Parris cranked him over extremely easily with the bar then too. Actually too easily, lost patience and got reversed.
Has been in the works for a while but yeah MissouriMesenbrink in the portal apparently?
You think he ends up at Mizzou? If he can make 157 Mizzou would be super tough. No real holes at all. If he can’t make 157 then someone good is on the bench. KOT up to 174. Mocco either doesn’t see the lineup or goes to 184 but then either Hawks or top recruit Clayton Whiting has to sit. I haven’t heard anything about other possible destinations but maybe he goes home to Wisconsin? Same issue there though with Hamiti at 165That's old news. He announced he was leaving right after the season started and has been home in wisconsin.
rooming with bouzakis in iowa cityYou think he ends up at Mizzou? If he can make 157 Mizzou would be super tough. No real holes at all. If he can’t make 157 then someone good is on the bench. KOT up to 174. Mocco either doesn’t see the lineup or goes to 184 but then either Hawks or top recruit Clayton Whiting has to sit. I haven’t heard anything about other possible destinations but maybe he goes home to Wisconsin? Same issue there though with Hamiti at 165
one reason i've found a lot of the portal discussions the past week distasteful from both our fan bases. basically window shopping from other teams. obviously i want the hawks to win, but do i really want smaller programs to lose guys like jaxon smith, mesenbrink, noto, buchanan, etc... ? it's troubling.Feel for Cal Baptist, they discovered two potential stars in Gaitan and Mesenbrink and of course lose both to bigger programs. I know it sounds hypocritical for a PSU fan for say but really really not good for the sport.