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you deinstalled kaperski if you are using it. It is Russian made. WTF did they fine in there? Am I reading this right?
 
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The article I read talked about removing it from civilian government systems.

Additionally does DHS really think that by uninstalling the program, they'll remove whatever backdoor the Russians supposedly put in it? If so.....LOL.
 
The article I read talked about removing it from civilian government systems.

Additionally does DHS really think that by uninstalling the program, they'll remove whatever backdoor the Russians supposedly put in it? If so.....LOL.
Exactly. Better to resort to a restore point prior to installation.
 
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I became friends with a warrant officer during a rehab stay at Cam Ranh Bay in 70. He flew loaches (Light Observation Helicopters and why we called them that I have no idea.) and took an AK-47 round in his calf. The chopper was fine. These guys followed the terrain/tree tops looking for NVA. Looked like a rollercoaster ride as did a lot of huey pilots too. Theory being they were going to fast to be hit. Others flew high out of range. Anyway, this was intelligence in that war. After the war he graduated from Purdue with a degree in Computer Science and worked for one of the USA's intelligence agencies until retirement. He told me one time that kaperski is pretty solid against the soviet block hackers because kaperski pays them off! Just sayen!
 
There was an anti-malware thread a few months ago, and someone (I forget who) said Kaspersky was the best one to use ... to which I responded something to the effect that it's great, if you don't mind a foreign government pwning your system.

Let's just say I work in cybersecurity in the federal government. If you are using Kaspersky on any system today, don't just de-install it, but get a whole new system and never use Kaspersky again.
 
I never used Kaspersky because I knew it was a Russian company. It just seemed like inviting trouble.
 
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I never used Kaspersky because I knew it was a Russian company. It just seemed like inviting trouble.
Same reason I won't buy a Huawei phone. Designed, developed and made in China. Not that every other phone isn't made in China, but still.
 
Well, heh, I did uninstall Kaspersky a few weeks back and went back to good old Norton. I guess that wasn't enough (shrug).

When I bought this laptop off the shelf at Staples, Staples swore by Kaspersky. Then something happened -- I forget what -- and I took my laptop back to Staples to fix it. They did, but when it came to reinstalling Kaspersky, they let me know they no longer had an agreement with Kaspersky. They still thought K was OK, but Staples no longer was in bed with them.

Long story short, I've decided whenever I get a new computer (and I will) it's going to be an Apple. I have an iPhone and an iPad and I love them. So an Apple laptop is next. I don't know when that will be however. I hate this HP I got at Staples, but it's still good (enough). I don't use it that much anymore, though. I do a lot on my iPad. I just pretty much need a computer (laptop) to use as a "typewriter" pretty much. (I'm old.)

Anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
 
There was an anti-malware thread a few months ago, and someone (I forget who) said Kaspersky was the best one to use ... to which I responded something to the effect that it's great, if you don't mind a foreign government pwning your system.

Let's just say I work in cybersecurity in the federal government. If you are using Kaspersky on any system today, don't just de-install it, but get a whole new system and never use Kaspersky again.
Well, heh, I did uninstall Kaspersky a few weeks back and went back to good old Norton. I guess that wasn't enough (shrug).

When I bought this laptop off the shelf at Staples, Staples swore by Kaspersky. Then something happened -- I forget what -- and I took my laptop back to Staples to fix it. They did, but when it came to reinstalling Kaspersky, they let me know they no longer had an agreement with Kaspersky. They still thought K was OK, but Staples no longer was in bed with them.

Long story short, I've decided whenever I get a new computer (and I will) it's going to be an Apple. I have an iPhone and an iPad and I love them. So an Apple laptop is next. I don't know when that will be however. I hate this HP I got at Staples, but it's still good (enough). I don't use it that much anymore, though. I do a lot on my iPad. I just pretty much need a computer (laptop) to use as a "typewriter" pretty much. (I'm old.)

Anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Lefty, you can do no wrong with Norton! Indeed, I am not a techy expert but subscribe to numerous tech sites and have a great interest in it. I suppose at some point Norton's less than flattering moniker was that it was "heavy" on system resources was true. Now a days that is not the case at all. The monthly, or quarterly or whatever analysis of anti-virus software has it always in its' own tier with kaspersky and one other, relative to protection. It then goes into detail on use of system resources and again it is considered light. I will advise you though that it includes PC maintenance features that you should probably disable if you do that yourself. Last but not least, multi device licenses (for family and/or friends and phone) are like free or $10 from newegg two or three times/year. Currently on a 10 device one that was $10 in January or February. You can purchase and sit on them too, as the 12 months does not start until you install on one of the devises!
 
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If you check the news, Lenovo - formerly IBM before the units was sold to the Chinese - just paid a huge FCC fine for putting hidden adware on laptops. Some Federal agencies will not use Lenovo. It's almost guaranteed that there are trojans on every lenovo system...still somehow, our idiotic federal govt buys them in places, including all over DOD.
Now, not saying buying Dell is any better, as every single machine comes off a line in China so there is oppty for malicious actions, but theoretically, there are Dell personnel on site doing QA and overseeing elements of production. Same goes for HP, but some of their systems, especially ones that go to the Feds, are built in Mexico.
Huawei, the Cisco of China, is prohibited from selling networking equipment in the US because malware could sniff traffic and send it back to the mother land for nefarious purposes.

I would never use IT software or hardware made by a Chinese company if I can avoid it. It's tough for consumer hardware though
ipad is made by FoxConn in china
Lenovo is chinese
HP is made in China or Mexico (consumer is pretty much china)
Surface is made by ASUS/Pegatron which is Taiwanese and a better choice

Be safe out there :)
 
you deinstalled kaperski if you are using it. It is Russian made. WTF did they fine in there? Am I reading this right?

My conspiracy theory for years has been that the people making these anti virus software programs were also the ones creating the viruses.:D
 
I am a child of the 80s, I trust nothing that comes from Russia.

I had a mellenial help desk guy preach to me for months how great kapersky was and it was free and you didn't have to pay for McAfee or Norton. He was taking it to the man but getting it for free. Blah, Blah, Blah....when in doubt, stick with your gut instinct!
 
If you do your own brakes you can build a desktop. Just spend several hours to learn component compatibility. Your CPU will be AMD or INTEL and go Korean (Samsung) for your SSD. RAM I have no idea off hand but I'm sure a lot of it does come from China. Anyway, you get the idea. There is one problem. After you build one you are hooked and may not be able to stop! Oh yeh, I like ASUS motherboards, Taiwan!
 
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There was an anti-malware thread a few months ago, and someone (I forget who) said Kaspersky was the best one to use ... to which I responded something to the effect that it's great, if you don't mind a foreign government pwning your system.

Let's just say I work in cybersecurity in the federal government. If you are using Kaspersky on any system today, don't just de-install it, but get a whole new system and never use Kaspersky again.
from a normal joe everyday middle class computer guy .... why?
 
Lefty, you can do no wrong with Norton! Indeed, I am not a techy expert but subscribe to numerous tech sites and have a great interest in it. I suppose at some point Norton's less than flattering moniker was that it was "heavy" on system resources was true. Now a days that is not the case at all. The monthly, or quarterly or whatever analysis of anti-virus software has it always in its' own tier with kaspersky and one other, relative to protection. It then goes into detail on use of system resources and again it is considered light. I will advise you though that it includes PC maintenance features that you should probably disable if you do that yourself. Last but not least, multi device licenses (for family and/or friends and phone) are like free or $10 from newegg two or three times/year. Currently on a 10 device one that was $10 in January or February. You can purchase and sit on them too, as the 12 months does not start until you install on one of the devises!

Sorry, but this is a load of total BS.

Norton is a complete joke. Norton, McAffe, and Kaspersky are the "big 3" antirvirus software and the most targeted by hackers. You're far better off getting something like Avira Free or AVG Free, MalWareBytes, and CCleaner.
 
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from a normal joe everyday middle class computer guy .... why?

First off, I'd never use any of the big name antivirus software. They're the most targeted by hackers.

Secondly, it's easy for software developers to put hidden code in programs. Average Joe installs it, all looks/works well, but there's a door open. Average Joe decides to uninstall the program, however the hidden files stay behind (and hidden). The backdoor is still there. Average Joe can wipe his computer hard drive but nothing is fool proof, hence BrucePa's suggestion.
 
If you do your own brakes you can build a desktop. Just spend several hours to learn component compatibility. Your CPU will be AMD or INTEL and go Korean (Samsung) for your SSD. RAM I have no idea off hand but I'm sure a lot of it does come from China. Anyway, you get the idea. There is one problem. After you build one you are hooked and may not be able to stop! Oh yeh, I like ASUS motherboards, Taiwan!

In the planning stages of building one myself - any thoughts on ASRock motherboards country of origin? After having 2 Samsung phones and a Samsung washing machine fail I could not in good conscience put their SSD in my system - going with WD.
 
Not only is everything on your system -- files, photos, browsing history, everything -- now in the possession of a foreign government, but your system itself has been conscripted into an elaborate bot net for future fun and games.

Just curious since you work in the field--what do you recommend for the average user's home rig?

I work on IT-related matters though it's not my job's primary focus. I've been a lifelong computer nerd and used to fix machines on the side.

At home, I've got an Asus RT-AC3200 (security enabled), Avira Free, Malwarebytes, and CCleaner.
 
First off, I'd never use any of the big name antivirus software. They're the most targeted by hackers.

Secondly, it's easy for software developers to put hidden code in programs. Average Joe installs it, all looks/works well, but there's a door open. Average Joe decides to uninstall the program, however the hidden files stay behind (and hidden). The backdoor is still there. Average Joe can wipe his computer hard drive but nothing is fool proof, hence BrucePa's suggestion.
Yes, I understand all that. Should have been clearer.
What is a Russian hacker going to get from a middle class (100k/yr) worker's home computer? Are these guys really interested in draining the bank account that never has more than $10k in it?
I really don't care that Russia, or NSA for that matter, knows how much porn I watch or can see naked pix of my gf.
 
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Yes, I understand all that. Should have been clearer.
What is a Russian hacker going to get from a middle class (100k/yr) worker's home computer? Are these guys really interested in draining the bank account that never has more than $10k in it?

BrucePa's other post answers the question. Using the Average Joe's computer for a botnet or as computing power for other "activities" all without knowledge.
 
In the planning stages of building one myself - any thoughts on ASRock motherboards country of origin? After having 2 Samsung phones and a Samsung washing machine fail I could not in good conscience put their SSD in my system - going with WD.
ASRock is Taiwan. I did not think WD were into SSDs or if they are not for long. Just go on newegg, Micro Center, Amazon or ebay and research SSDs and then Wiky where their country of origin if you don't want China. But for sure build with a SSD. I just read on lifehacker that read/write like forever and that failure would come from "age." Backup always anyway and include internal during your build.
 
Sorry, but this is a load of total BS.

Norton is a complete joke. Norton, McAffe, and Kaspersky are the "big 3" antirvirus software and the most targeted by hackers. You're far better off getting something like Avira Free or AVG Free, MalWareBytes, and CCleaner.
Oh my gosh! You are such an idiot? Where do I start? Firstly, they don't target A-Vs, they target system vulnerabilities. McAffe always has been second tier. CCleaner has nothing to do with PC protection!!! The free AVs in 90+% of the time are fine but do not compare to the upper tier. Your only statement that comes close to ringing true is that Malwarebytes is a great product! I own it on my desktop and just use the free for scans on the laptop! Anyone that makes the idiotic statements you made obviously does not own Malwarebytes Professional so you are not protected. Beware!
 
Oh my gosh! You are such an idiot? Where do I start? Firstly, they don't target A-Vs, they target system vulnerabilities. McAffe always has been second tier. CCleaner has nothing to do with PC protection!!! The free AVs in 90+% of the time
fine but do not compare to the upper tier. Your only statement that comes close to ringing true is that Malwarebytes is a great product! I own it on my desktop and just use the free for scans on the laptop! Anyone that makes the idiotic statements you made obviously does not own Malwarebytes Professional so you are not protected. Beware!

LOL

Keep dreaming about Norton, my friend. You're making up more shit than Emmert ever did. And yes, CCleaner is a component of having a clean, well-run system. If you can't figure it out, I can't help you.

And for the record, yes, I have MWB premium.
 
LOL

Keep dreaming about Norton, my friend. You're making up more shit than Emmert ever did. And yes, CCleaner is a component of having a clean, well-run system. If you can't figure it out, I can't help you.

And for the record, yes, I have MWB premium.
There you go again dumb shit! The topic was preventing malware! Keep making a fool of yourself! Are you in seventh grade?
 
Yes, I understand all that. Should have been clearer.
What is a Russian hacker going to get from a middle class (100k/yr) worker's home computer? Are these guys really interested in draining the bank account that never has more than $10k in it?
I really don't care that Russia, or NSA for that matter, knows how much porn I watch or can see naked pix of my gf.

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Nope, just going to keep messen with you, it was my life!
Also, next time you want to offer an opinion, don't include a four letter word. At least not with me!

You're right, I should probably stick with smaller words. Eunuchs like you can only understand small words.
 
You're right, I should probably stick with smaller words. Eunuchs like you can only understand small words.
Hey clever boy, lets discuss this in person before the game. However, I must worn you I will not allow you to give me oral sex, despite how proud you are of your abilities!

Main entrance to Medlar Field at the corner of Curtain and Porter at 6:00PM English major. I'll be wearing an old faded blue T that says Go Lions!
 
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