Wow, Kansas St. knocks out Kentucky, 61-58*
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K-St played a great game, especially with their top player hobbled with a foot injury (played a few minutes in the first half, did not play in the second). Also had three players foul out!
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The great Loyola story continued tonight.....a third straight 1pt victory.
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Gonzaga just got scalped by Florida St.
CRAZY!!!!!
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The great Loyola story continued tonight.....a third straight 1pt victory.
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Gonzaga just got scalped by Florida St.
CRAZY!!!!!
As much as I hate to admit it, Michigan also looked good and totally dominated Texas A&M (who just crushed UNC in North Carolina a few days ago). Gotta give Westcoast’s team credit.
Agreed on all points. K St. go off to a great start -- something like 11 - 1. Kentucky fought back, and took the lead around 36 - 35 (something like that). Then, between the foul outs, Kentucky's D, and Kentucky's O, K St. was in trouble near the end, but they gutted it out.
BTW, if you were K St., would you have fouled on the inbound play at the end, or taken your chances on Kentucky missing the 3?
After the way that bracket cleared out, it looked like Kentucky had an easy path to the elite 8. K St. felt otherwise, and hats off to them. Kentucky didn't seem to notice that all the top seeds are having trouble in the South bracket this year.
I missed the Loyola game (watching PSU WLAX), but saw highlights, and it looked to be an entertaining ending. That team just refuses to lose. Quite a story in this year's tourney.
The other 2 games tonight were not all that interesting. I was suspicious of the Zags when filling out pool, but thought they would defeat FSU.
Crazy tournament, but lots of entertaining games.
UMich dodged the bullet with a prayer at the buzzer vs. Houston last weekend. No way do they win that one if Houston had simply guarded the in-bounds pass. (Or made the two free throws they had just missed.)
But yes, they looked great tonight. Guess A&M was still reading the write-ups from the North Carolina slaughter.
We have far too many Loyolas. We have them in Los Angeles, New Orleans, Baltimore and Chicago.
It’s no wonder they win, like ExLax, with regularily
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Tom, not sure if I’d foul or not. K-St had no big men left in the game, so it might have been risky.
At the same time, it forces Kentucky to make the initial free throw AND then miss the second AND then get the rebound (without fouling) AND then score. Lots of moving parts.
Yeah, you're rolling the dice either way. If K St. fouls, then Kentucky would have to hit 2 to tie the game, or hit the first and then intentionally miss AND rebound AND score to win. If K St. doesn't foul, then they're leaving Kentucky the option to shoot a 2 for the tie, or a 3 for the win.
K St. didn't foul, and Kentucky had a very good look at the basket when they shot their 3. K St. was lucky that it didn't go in. We've seen enough shots that were even harder in this tournament that have hit nothing but net.
It was interesting, it was #22 for Kentucky that got beat on the game-winning lay-up AND missed the final shot. He’s gonna have a long sleepless night and a few rough days.
Nah, he'll just declare for the draft and forget it all together
Sleepless nights right up until the millions start rolling in. I don’t think the KY players care that much about college basketball...they’re not there last big enough to get attached.
That whole side of the bracket has opened up, with Michigan (ugh) appearing to be in good position to reach the Finals. It's #9 seed Florida State vs #3 seed Michigan, with the other regional final being #9 seed K. State vs #11 seed Loyola.
Against a tall Texas A&M team that had defended UNC very well, Michigan scored 99 points with lights out shooting:
62% FG; 58.3% 3-pt; 7 for 8 from the FT line.
Florida State has a very athletic team, and may be able to slow down Michigan's offense.
Against a tall Texas A&M team that had defended UNC very well, Michigan scored 99 points with lights out shooting:
62% FG; 58.3% 3-pt; 7 for 8 from the FT line.
Florida State has a very athletic team, and may be able to slow down Michigan's offense.
Just my opinion, but I think Calipari is a good X and O coach and is particularly good at teaching defense. It's a major task to have a whole new group of players every year and get them playing together. Calipari's teams generally improve over the course of the season.
One of my gripes about Calipari is that he's not a particularly good sport. Whines a lot when they lose; don't believe the Kentucky players and coaches congratulated K State after the game, yesterday, just left the court.
On the bright side, the kentucky players can get back to campus and get a jump start on final exams.
Every team wins one game they should have maybe lost. It takes luck too. If Michigan shoots the ball like they did last night they could win it all. Playing their best at the right time.
Absolutely would have fouled. K-State dodged a bullet with the missed 3.
I didn’t use to be in the camp of fouling while up 3 but I am now. As bad as UK is at free throws, there’s no guarantee they would have hit the first one. Hell, one of their guys went 8 for 20 from the line!
If you wanna know the right way to play the game, watch Loyola’s 2nd half on a loop. Started the half 13/13 with most of those being layups. They move the ball, make the extra pass, and look to drive. Far more appetizing action than the constant drive and kick out for a contested 3 when one more dribble gets you a layup and maybe also a foul. In Nevada’s case, the dumb filtered to the coach too. Down 1 with a 6-second shot clock/game clock difference but with 2 fouls to give, you have to extend the game. That’s a lot of trust in your defense to get a stop, get the ball, and get it up court in 6 seconds. Not only did they not get the stop, they gave up a 3.
If you wanna know the right way to play the game, watch Loyola’s 2nd half on a loop. Started the half 13/13 with most of those being layups. They move the ball, make the extra pass, and look to drive. Far more appetizing action than the constant drive and kick out for a contested 3 when one more dribble gets you a layup and maybe also a foul. In Nevada’s case, the dumb filtered to the coach too. Down 1 with a 6-second shot clock/game clock difference but with 2 fouls to give, you have to extend the game. That’s a lot of trust in your defense to get a stop, get the ball, and get it up court in 6 seconds. Not only did they not get the stop, they gave up a 3.
I watched the entire Loyola Nevada game and it was extremely entertaining.
Nevada jumped out to an early lead and Loyola just hung in until they started to click with their passes/layups. It was a clinic in good fundamental basketball by both teams with Loyola overcoming Nevada's early lead into halftime.
Second half was all Loyola for about 12 minutes and it looked like light's out when Nevada either made a defensive adjustment or Loyola decided to really milk the clock - Nevada fought back into the contest.
The fact that Nevada didn't commit many fouls in the second half bit them as when they needed to foul to stop clock and hope for missed free throws, Loyola simply got to inbounds the ball.
Loyola reminds me of those old Princeton teams that just moved without the ball and made layups.
KSt was in deep doo if KY sends it to overtime... I think all KS had left was the waterboy and a cpl cheerleaders... everyone else either fouled out or had 4.
Nuff said. lol.
Nuff said. lol.
Agreed--Penn did this as well. There's definitely an Ivy League feel to Loyola. I won't be the least bit mad if they manage win 3 more games.
That culture existed long before Cal got there. And his grad rate may exceed that of the school at large, believe it or not.
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