WVB - The official end of the dynasty last night.

[dcf4psu]

I believe we saw the passing of the baton last night. It marked the end of the PSU WVB dynasty and quite possibly the beginning of a run for a very talented and young Nebraska team. A team that showed the heart of a lion in that 4th set when it looked like it was starting to get away from them.

2018 will mark the first time in I'm guessing over ten years that the WVB team will have no players competing who have won a national championship. The seniors last night were the caboose. The dynasty is over.

 

[psuted]

I believe we saw the passing of the baton last night. It marked the end of the PSU WVB dynasty and quite possibly the beginning of a run for a very talented and young Nebraska team. A team that showed the heart of a lion in that 4th set when it looked like it was starting to get away from them.

2018 will mark the first time in I'm guessing over ten years that the WVB team will have no players competing who have won a national championship. The seniors last night were the caboose. The dynasty is over.

It’s hard in this day and age to have a dynasty. Nebraska got a well deserved win last night and they are reasonably young. I hope they go all the way and win the NC.

 

[Rip_E_2_Joe_PA]

Oh.... the melodrama.

 

[BrushFire]

Not having any remaining players that played on NC team has nothing to do with dynasty. We continue to have top recruiting classes and pull players from all over the country (2 next year from Florida).

 

[retsio]

May I make a suggestion to dcf4psu in my most diplomatic language -- GFY, your speculation is wrong, as history has proven with previous Penn State teams. 'IF' you were watching last night, they had match point in the 4th set until an unexpected mix-up at the net. This one match does not indicate the end of anything.

 

[Mudge1026]

I believe we saw the passing of the baton last night. It marked the end of the PSU WVB dynasty and quite possibly the beginning of a run for a very talented and young Nebraska team. A team that showed the heart of a lion in that 4th set when it looked like it was starting to get away from them.

2018 will mark the first time in I'm guessing over ten years that the WVB team will have no players competing who have won a national championship. The seniors last night were the caboose. The dynasty is over.

Drama Queen!

 

[Ranger Dan]

I believe we saw the passing of the baton last night. It marked the end of the PSU WVB dynasty and quite possibly the beginning of a run for a very talented and young Nebraska team. A team that showed the heart of a lion in that 4th set when it looked like it was starting to get away from them.

2018 will mark the first time in I'm guessing over ten years that the WVB team will have no players competing who have won a national championship. The seniors last night were the caboose. The dynasty is over.

OK, that's it... Lets fire Russ Rose!

 

[DarkCock]

Your dynasty is over, but you still have a great program. As a volleyball fan, I love watching your team play. You should be proud. WVB is getting more competitive. Florida is really coming strong. Thayer Hall is the best outside hitter I've ever seen at the high school level. She'll be teamed with the number 1 right side hitter next year. I suspect this won't be the last time Nebraska and Florida play for a national title.

 

[PSUArnie]

God the venom on this board recently, and more specifically this morning, is brutal. I assume people are just pissy because the WVB team lost last night, but man, some on here need to try to act like adults. Assuming they are adults of course.

 

[Pardlion]

I believe we saw the passing of the baton last night. It marked the end of the PSU WVB dynasty and quite possibly the beginning of a run for a very talented and young Nebraska team. A team that showed the heart of a lion in that 4th set when it looked like it was starting to get away from them.

2018 will mark the first time in I'm guessing over ten years that the WVB team will have no players competing who have won a national championship. The seniors last night were the caboose. The dynasty is over.

Epic choke by the ladies. Reminded me of the Ohio state game.

 

[LemonEars]

Epic choke by the ladies. Reminded me of the Ohio state game.

Nonsense. I think our women played courageously. Nebraska had better players overall. We played them even. We had a great chance to win. I'm proud of the way our women played last night and all season.

 

[demlion]

OK, that's it... Lets fire Russ Rose!

I hear Greg Schiano is available.

 

[Grass]

Let's be honest. PSU had match point in the 4th. With how bad they served last night that is a miracle. I also think Stanford is loaded for at least the next two years so they will have a say in whether Nebraska or Florida win it the next few years.

 

[bison13]

Big ten has great volleyball, Nebraska has the mojo right now when it comes to PSU but Russ and the girls will find a way. NC 2018.

 

[TenerHallTerror]

this is how true Penn Staters react:

 

[LionJim]

Thank you for that, THT. This is what it means to Be Penn State Proud.

 

[Lion84]

God the venom on this board recently, and more specifically this morning, is brutal. I assume people are just pissy because the WVB team lost last night, but man, some on here need to try to act like adults. Assuming they are adults of course.

Agreed - My God they lose in the playoffs and suddenly its all over - I think it smacks of people who are always of the glass half full mentality and other who wish its the case because they think it will open the door for their team or they are just haters. But to says its over at this point is just stupid.

 

[Pennsyhusker]

Husker fan here. No way is your dynasty over. You lose a lot next year but you will just reload. Your recruiting has been outstanding. Look at the Huskers this year... it was supposed to be a rebuilding year with all that we lost. I look for PSU to come back next year as a young and hungry team. And I hope you do because damn it is fun watching our two teams go at it.

Look forward to great matches against you guys for years to come.

 

[bdgan]

Not having any remaining players that played on NC team has nothing to do with dynasty. We continue to have top recruiting classes and pull players from all over the country (2 next year from Florida).

PSU is an attractive option for WVB prospects but I'm not sure we've had a top 10 recriting class for 4 years now. Please correct me if I'm wrong. A lot of seniors graduate and we haven't seen much from the younger players this year. Nebraska reloaded. I think PSU will have to rebuild.

 

[JWB389]

Prior to our ladies volleyball dominance, does anybody recall seeing the sport on TV as often as it is now? If nothing else, I say Russ and the ladies made women's volleyball more appealing to the masses. Good for them.

 

[TheBigUglies]

That was hell of a volleyball match to watch. They would have had it won if the setter and the other player didn't run into each other. The service errors killed them as well. Usually, when you have 2 powerhouse teams going at each other like that(no matter what sport), it is the team that makes the least mistakes that wins. (Thank you Capt Obvious!).

Hell of match!

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

It’s over? That’s it for me then. Where do I turn in my fan card?

 

[78SweetRevenge]

Let's pretend the dynasty is over. That's fine. Dynasties end. They're still an elite program. You don't have to win a national title every four years to remain elite. I trust the staff to reload even if there's a down year or two.

 

[wilbury]

Big ten has great volleyball, Nebraska has the mojo right now when it comes to PSU but Russ and the girls will find a way. NC 2018.

The Big Ten has great volleyball because we've elevated the entire league. Let's be honest.

 

[heckmans]

WTF is wrong with all of you? The OP does not deserve the attacks. The post is not out of bounds.
He didn't say the WVB team sucks. He didn't say Russ Rose has lost it. He didn't disparage the team or its players in any way.
He expressed his opinion that the "dynasty" is over in a very measured and complimentary way.
PSU had an amazing run beginning in 2007 that saw them win 4 Natl championships in a row and 6 of 8. That run ended in 2014.
Whatever the reason, suggesting that the period of domination is over should not be cause to get attacked.
IDK, maybe you all spend too much time on the board and your cycles have synced, causing excessive irritability and emotional outbursts, but you all owe him an apology. SMH

 

[GregInPitt]

A basic match of poor serving. If PSU gets their serves in play, the match may have been a 3 set sweep.

But that's the way the volley ball tumbles.....

 

[jferretti]

A basic match of poor serving. If PSU gets their serves in play, the match may have been a 3 set sweep.

But that's the way the volley ball tumbles.....

Yes, PSU was the weakest serving and serve receive team in the final four. The individual brilliance of a couple of players gave them a shot to win it all. Nebraska proved that if you can serve tough you can overcome talent or experience disparity.

Rose knows what it takes and I think he has one more in him before he lights up that last cigar on the Rec Hall bench.

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

WTF is wrong with all of you? The OP does not deserve the attacks. The post is not out of bounds.
He didn't say the WVB team sucks. He didn't say Russ Rose has lost it. He didn't disparage the team or its players in any way.
He expressed his opinion that the "dynasty" is over in a very measured and complimentary way.
PSU had an amazing run beginning in 2007 that saw them win 4 Natl championships in a row and 6 of 8. That run ended in 2014.
Whatever the reason, suggesting that the period of domination is over should not be cause to get attacked.
IDK, maybe you all spend too much time on the board and your cycles have synced, causing excessive irritability and emotional outbursts, but you all owe him an apology. SMH

He earned well deserved ‘attacks’ by erroneously and matter of factly stating something which is not true. Figures you and Lar would defend such garbage.

 

[Woodpecker]

Your dynasty is over, but you still have a great program. As a volleyball fan, I love watching your team play. You should be proud. WVB is getting more competitive. Florida is really coming strong. Thayer Hall is the best outside hitter I've ever seen at the high school level. She'll be teamed with the number 1 right side hitter next year. I suspect this won't be the last time Nebraska and Florida play for a national title.

Please be a South Carolina grad

 

[heckmans]

He earned well deserved ‘attacks’ by erroneously and matter of factly stating something which is not true. Figures you and Lar would defend such garbage.

Yes, figures only the logical ones on this board wouldn't act irrational.

1. Definition: In sports, a dynasty is a team or individual that dominates their sport or league for an extended length of time.
2. Whether a team is a dynasty is subjective, much as when a dynasty ends would be.

PSU WVB last won a NC in 2014. In 2015 and 2016 they did not make the Final 4. Last night, they apparently snatched defeat from the jaws of victory in the Semi. You may disagree, but how is it crazy to have the opinion that after several years of not winning and not making the Final 4, to say that the DOMINATION is over? It's a perfectly valid position. History may prove it wrong in some contexts, but it's perfectly reasonable given the facts of Dec 15th 2017.

 

[heckmans]

He earned well deserved ‘attacks’ by erroneously and matter of factly stating something which is not true. Figures you and Lar would defend such garbage.

Please confirm what he said that is "erroneous" and "matter factly...not true."

 

[tboyer]

Nebraska had a better team. PSU was really outplayed but managed to steal two sets I thought. And if it weren't for a freak collision at match point, they might well have stolen the match.

But Nebraska was better and deserved to win. They play fantastic D, they are super cohesive. Hunter is a terrific, creative setter and Nebraska has more offensive producers than PSU has. You have to tip your hat to Cook -- he is a fantastic coach to get such a young team playing like that a season after they lost so much talent. Seems to me Nebraska and Penn State are probably the best programs in the country at player development.

It was so surprising to see Penn State play with a lack of confidence and leadership at times. Lee, Washington, Kendall White and Detering are fearless warriors but you need 6-7 players like that, not 4. Some of PSU's key players have always been a little psychologically fragile it seems to me and can struggle in big situations. I don't think it's anybody's fault -- that is just the way it worked out with some of these players.

Anyway the PSU dynasty was an amazing thing and it will probably never happen again because there are so many more top tier programs than there were 15 years ago -- and a lot more great players. During the dynasty years PSU and Stanford at times seemed to have, just on their rosters alone, half of the all-Americans in the country. That will never be the case again. Teams like Minnesota and Wisconsin and Florida (and for that matter MSU and Washington and USC) are recruiting and coaching on such a high level now.

Anyway no reason for gloom. This was a final four team and PSU was a match point away from playing in a championship game that I think they would have almost certainly won.

You could worry about PSU being a program in transition because Rose can't coach forever.

But look -- PSU is bringing in probably the nation's best recruiting class next year, two superb middles, and the returning group includes some really terrific players like White and Nia Reed and of course Gorrell. It's widely expected that Rose will sign an all-American caliber transfer to provide another pin hitter that PSU needs. But other than that position they're in good shape. If the freshman are ready to play -- as they usually are in this sport -- PSU will just reload next year like Nebraska reloaded this year.

 

[PSUSignore]

Finishing in a tie for 3rd place in the nation is the end of a dynasty? Ok, if you say so. In case you weren't paying attention, this year's team improved on the results of the past few years. If what you say is true then you'd expect the team to be showing signs of decline, not improvement. And if your definition is the end of winning championships, then the dynasty ended a few years ago. So either way, last night was hardly the end of a dynasty. It was simply the end of a season and the end of a career for many great young ladies that I'll miss watching suit up in the blue and white. But PSU is far from an "also-ran" in the volleyball world right now, they are still competing at the highest possible levels with the best programs in the country.

 

[bdgan]

But look -- PSU is bringing in probably the nation's best recruiting class next year, two superb middles, and the returning group includes some really terrific players like White and Nia Reed and of course Gorrell. It's widely expected that Rose will sign an all-American caliber transfer to provide another pin hitter that PSU needs. But other than that position they're in good shape. If the freshman are ready to play -- as they usually are in this sport -- PSU will just reload next year like Nebraska reloaded this year.

There's no reason why PSU can't be as dominant in WVB as Alabama is in football but it all comes down to recruiting. If you go by the rankings PSU has had a few sub par classes in a row which is a concern. Right now they still have Rose and they can talk about a final 4 appearance. Those selling points could evaporate a year or two from now so THIS recruiting class is critical if PSU wants to remain elite.

 

[LemonEars]

There's no reason why PSU can't be as dominant in WVB as Alabama is in football but it all comes down to recruiting. If you go by the rankings PSU has had a few sub par classes in a row which is a concern. Right now they still have Rose and they can talk about a final 4 appearance. Those selling points could evaporate a year or two from now so THIS recruiting class is critical if PSU wants to remain elite.

I would suggest that PSU is already as dominating in WVB as Alabama is in football. The problem is we were spoiled in the 2000s and expect a national championship every year. We have a great WVB program and we should be proud of it.

 

[ILLINOISLION]

The dynasty DID end a few years ago. It was an incredible stretch of success that is matched and exceeded perhaps only by the success of UConn’s WBB.

The problem is the PSU dynasty itself did more than any thing else over the last ten years to elevate this sport (at all levels) and help produce the competitiveness that is out there now in college’s WVB. It’s not so much that PSU has fallen very far, it’s that so many other programs have really raised their levels of play.....and PSU is partially responsible for helping them do that.

Will PSU or any other team EVER have a similar run of success anywhere close to the run that PSU had? Not in my lifetime. But I 100% believe PSU will continue to be among the sport’s very elite programs and compete for the National Championship on a regular basis.

 

[The Spin Meister]

Prior to our ladies volleyball dominance, does anybody recall seeing the sport on TV as often as it is now? If nothing else, I say Russ and the ladies made women's volleyball more appealing to the masses. Good for them.

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Prior to our huge run, all the best vball was mostly on the west coas/Pac10t so it had limited tv coverage. We brought an east coast audience, making wvb a national draw.

 

[bdgan]

I would suggest that PSU is already as dominating in WVB as Alabama is in football. The problem is we were spoiled in the 2000s and expect a national championship every year. We have a great WVB program and we should be proud of it.

I agree it has been dominate but the tide may have swung with the last few recruiting classes. Hopefully that gets back on track this year. Alabama's recruiting hasn't dropped off.

 

[psrurock]

That was an outstanding match which could have gone either way. Pressure makes you try and force things. Some players stepped up and others didn't perform well. Hand it to Nebraska, they made the stops when they needed em.

 

[PSUArnie]

this is how true Penn Staters react:

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That was very cool. I’d imagine the ladies really appreciated the gesture, and I can guarantee NOONE feels worse about them losing than the players themselves.