Where is Kuhn??? love Schnupps grit but is Kuhn going to roll or are they saving the kid for O$U and Iowa....
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“We have clearance clarance”. Sorry couldn’t resist , airplane was one of my favorites
Doubt it’s that. Kuhn is on roster and certified weight. Don’t think you can be on roster if you still waiting on a waiver
At this point, may as well just send Kuhn to opens plus the Buffalo dual.
With that upcoming schedule, he's most likely looking at an 0-3 conference record -- which means he'd get the same #14 seed Schnupp would get at B10s. So absolutely nothing to lose by going to opens instead of conference duals -- plus get him stretched out for tournament action instead of one-off duals.
With that upcoming schedule, he's most likely looking at an 0-3 conference record -- which means he'd get the same #14 seed Schnupp would get at B10s. So absolutely nothing to lose by going to opens instead of conference duals -- plus get him stretched out for tournament action instead of one-off duals.
I believe Cael said during his weekly show that doing some open tournaments was definitely an option they were considering for Kuhn.
No, but you have a point.
If he places high enough at B10s, then he could be 0-0 entering March.
If he doesn't place high enough at B10s, it will be hard for him to get an at large bid without enough matches for bronze or silver status.
I'm not really sure I understand why inserting Kuhn into the lineup at this point is even worthwhile. I don't see how a guy having a few matches before B1Gs is going to be helpful. I wouldn't count on him contributing more than Schnupp would at this point. Why not just roll with the guy that's been going out and leaving it on the mat all year with all things being equal?
I think Kuhn's chances of making the NCAA are slim to none, and even if he did I doubt he contributes points if he does. Schnupp, on the other hand, is going to be around the next few years and if it's possible he could be called upon in the future to contribute, so why not give him the matches now?
I think Kuhn's chances of making the NCAA are slim to none, and even if he did I doubt he contributes points if he does. Schnupp, on the other hand, is going to be around the next few years and if it's possible he could be called upon in the future to contribute, so why not give him the matches now?
I'm saying, why not reward Schnupp for his hard work? I don't know anything other than what I've looked up about Kuhn, but I'll assume he's a good kid.
But, he's been hurt almost his entire college career. He has barely wrestled since high school. He can't be in wrestling shape having not wrestled all year. It's going to take him a few matches just to get there.
I think people want to believe he can make a difference but he probably won't. He almost surely won't. I say let the guy who has been going out all year and wrestling finish it out since the results are going to be the same.
I totally see where you are coming from...I would imagine Cael doesn't have Kuhn go unless he is pretty confident he can contribute. Look at the way he is handing 197... he is certainly giving each guy an opportunity to show they should be the one. I also feel that Kuhn has gone through a lot to become a Lion so he deserves a chance to prove himself.
Schnupp is 1-14 on the season, I would think we stand a better chance of scoring points at nationals with a full sized 125lber.
Minor correction...there is no Silver Standard (or Gold Standard) after the conference tournaments, only Bronze. Conversely, there's only Gold and Silver, no Bronze, before the conference tournaments.
Not how Ryan would have handled it.
Looks like the BIG will have 10 at 125 assuming Tomasello wrestles the last 3 matches(I think you need 8 to earn a slot?). Schnupp already has losses to 24,24 and 30 according to coaches panel I. If Kuhn wrestles off and wins he'll get the shot provided he's ready. Akin of Buffalo is coaches panel I #33 so would be a good measuring point for Kuhn.
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I hear you but being that guy with 1 win and 20ish Ls (on an all star team) cant be all that great for personal development. You got to have the right mind set to get beat up all week in practice than go out in front of 6k+ and have it happen again. Only so many get em next times work before the shoulder is so sore it hurts.
Plus, if Kuhn is better why the heck not put him out there. This is big time athletics with a NC on the line, not the acorn little league.
PS - in times like this #itrustinCael
As of right now, nobody knows what Jason will be able to do in 6 weeks, so Cael can't count on Jason's 27 points from last year. All hands on deck, gotta find points. If Cael could've pulled Cordon Jonaway's shirt, he would've.
Schnupp may win the Effort Olympics but is the longest of long shots for nationals. Only win over a 4-20 F&M guy. Kuhn has beaten 3 NCAA qualifiers and isn't undersized. Need to explore what he has in the next few weeks before B10s, can't afford to dismiss that possibility out of hand. If he's not the guy, then at least we found out.
Best way to honor Schnupp's effort is to get him a ring and bump up his scholarship next year.
Schnupp may win the Effort Olympics but is the longest of long shots for nationals. Only win over a 4-20 F&M guy. Kuhn has beaten 3 NCAA qualifiers and isn't undersized. Need to explore what he has in the next few weeks before B10s, can't afford to dismiss that possibility out of hand. If he's not the guy, then at least we found out.
Best way to honor Schnupp's effort is to get him a ring and bump up his scholarship next year.
He's got until 5pm to register. Right now it's not looking like he's going that way.
Berge's going, though. The guy who had questions about Berge can thank me. 2nd tournament I'm attending this year and he's wrestled(ing) in both.
Joe Lee is wrestling as well. 165 again, so he's obviously getting big.
I bet he wants a shot at Nato. Tough call for the coaches if he's ready, but I think you have to reward Kuhn's perseverance somehow, maybe this is the opportunity. I will cheer for Devin too if he goes, however.
Not listed in the match notes, whatever that is worth....
Not listed in the match notes, whatever that is worth....
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Kuhn has a 14-8 career record vs D1 opponents with only 1 of those wins against above .500 wrestler Silver (14-11) Stanford. Kuhn hasnt been at 125 since 3/1/2015.Just throwing that out there so everyone doesnt expect him to score points at Ncaa.
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If Kuhn wins the wrestle-off, then I would think he gets an opportunity. Depending on how it goes, maybe you enter him in a tournament rather than wrestle against Spencer the following week.
I'm well aware. But the guy knew the competition he'd be facing (ie the opportunities he'd have) before driving his family across the country (west2east!) and bustin' tail to get into grad school. If he wants the competition, I admire him all the more for it, win or lose.
He also has a win over NQ Trey Andrews who has a career winning record. Silver was ranked 15th at the time Kuhn beat him, so you are kind of downplaying that a bit.
IF he qualifies for NCAAs (big IF), he could win a couple of matches.
Not downplaying anything I was just stating he beat 1 guy with a winning record in the season he beat him in.I'm just not sure how many people realize that hes not much better then Schnupp
I admire him for that but Schnupp has also busted his tail working all season in the room.To me neither one is making it to Ncaa so I would stay with the guy who's been grinding all year
If Kuhn is no better than Schnupp, than why has PSU facilitated his move onto the team? I am not sure how much attention and effort was given to his desire to wrestle for PSU, but somebody has some level of confidence in him. Cael even recently spoke about him wrestling soon and his process. Could this all be to bring on another wrestler that is Schnupps equal? I just doubt it.
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Seems like lot of people expect him to make the ncaa which isn't realistic at this point.He ended up here cause he's a Utah kid.
You may be right. It could of been simply out of pure kindness that they gave this kid a chance to be on the team...and he is not better than Schnupp???
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Kuhn is significantly better than Schnupp. Kuhn has a career record of 18-8, Schnupp 1 -14. Does Kuhn qualify for nationals, who knows, probably no more than 50%. Schnupp has about a 1% chance of qualifying for nationals, gives a great effort but looks like he could wrestle 113 and not miss many meals.
I've never seen Kuhn wrestle and I can guarantee with 100% confidence that he is better than Schnupp and gives us a better chance at points than Schnupp.
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