16 team playoff bracket
- Thread starter NittanyBlue92
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And they would play
8 games on 12/14,
4 games on 12/21,
2 games on 1/1 and
Championship on 1/11?
They would have to shorten regular season by at least one game. Final two would play 17 games. No way... leave it at 4 teams. It alway seems to have worked out.
8 games on 12/14,
4 games on 12/21,
2 games on 1/1 and
Championship on 1/11?
They would have to shorten regular season by at least one game. Final two would play 17 games. No way... leave it at 4 teams. It alway seems to have worked out.
8 would be fine. Make CCG winners auto qualifier to significantly reduce the subjective nature of the tournament and then toss the highest rated g5 a bone and two at-large bids. You'll still have controversy at any size but at least this provides a defined path into the tournament.
16 is too many. 8 is the right amount. 5 conference champions and 3 wild cards, picked by a committee. Make winning your conference mean something again.
Have regions. Southeast, Midwest, West, and Pennsylvania. The only way folks in this board would think that someone isn’t out to get us.
Herpie would be programming the computer system.
...
if (team == THE_Ahia_State)
{
bool playoff_bid = TRUE;
unsigned char Seeding = FIRST;
}
...
If the highest rated g5 is in the top 10 otherwise no
Can't support anything that eliminates half of the teams before a game is played. I like 16 but it must include all conference champs. To have a real championship every team must have a chance at game one to win it all. Most can't but they need the chance.
16 teams is only 4 rounds, scrap the championship game and the weak FCS games you still have what you have now. You can also have conference on conference rounds, sorrry 8 is not enough.The SEC would find a way to get 8 teams in though
4 is plenty. If anything, change up conference division alignments, work the conference championship into the mix and have that narrow it down to 4.
This year, four is one too many.
Love it! Just like basketball. Maybe one of these centuries!
As a big expanded playoff participant I do have to admit it would definitely take the intensity/pressure/drama off the regular season games.
For example, take 2020 as a scenario. Under the current format. if we lose to scUM early then we absolutely HAVE to beat the Luckeyes in the White Out game to have any shot of still winning the East and going to the 4 team playoff. In the 16 team structure, we could lose to both scUM and the Luckeyes and still get in. That White Out game is not a must win.
As a big expanded playoff participant I do have to admit it would definitely take the intensity/pressure/drama off the regular season games.
For example, take 2020 as a scenario. Under the current format. if we lose to scUM early then we absolutely HAVE to beat the Luckeyes in the White Out game to have any shot of still winning the East and going to the 4 team playoff. In the 16 team structure, we could lose to both scUM and the Luckeyes and still get in. That White Out game is not a must win.
Silly argument that happens virtually never in p5 conferences. 8 win or worse champs from the p5 in the last decade:
b10: 1 wisconsin in 2012 only because of psu and osu bowl bans.
sec: 0
Acc: 0
Pac: 0
B12: 0
I think 4 is great. I don’t like the idea of Iowa and Notre Dame having a chance at winning the national championship, they didn’t play well enough this year to get in. I want the regular season to still mean something
Win it on the field. If they are good enough they will win it. If not they won't. Are you proposing that the NCAA Basketball Tournament should be reduced to 4 teams decided by a Committee?
So here is my crazy idea
Take the 5 G5 conf champion and the independent with the best record and have the them play each other -perhaps geographically.
So 6 becomes three. Add these theee winners to the existing five conf Champions and now you have eight
Schedule adjustments would have to be made but you will end up with eight
Why the G5? Because as this playoff makes more and more money there is s risk for potential and massive litigation by the G5 for being left out of the playoffs. And revenue opportunities.
Also I believe a tirje sponsor is necessary to provide revenue to the eight teams. Plus the home teams get the benefit of revenue from home games.
I enjoy the NCAA tourney, but it often leads to duds. I’m much more interested in watching LSU/OU and OSU/Clemson than I am Texas Tech/MSU and Auburn/UVA. I also would rather the OSU game mean something. It sucks when it essentially ends our season, but if we beat them and catapult ourselves into the CFP it’s a huge game. Regular season college hoops has none of that. UK lost to Evansville and it will have no affect on their season.
just because basketball does it doesn’t mean everybody else should
Didn’t every p5 team besides the four chosen ones already lose it “on the field” multiple times? How many mulligans should a team get, and why should they have their slate wiped clean and be treated the same as an unbeaten?
After your team has failed multiple times just accept they aren’t the best, and don’t hope for having a chance to get hot for a few weeks.
It sucked for UCF a couple years ago. At the same time, there was an article about them backing out of a possible game that year with a team that would have made their schedule more challenging.
This system fixed the real problem of 3 unbeatens with the top 2 system.
Possibly. They would have to beat whatever G5 team they have to play to make the final eight.
But therein lies the rub. The opportunity to win the NC should not be based on eye test or human bias. In my perfect world of college football the human element is eliminated-just like it is in pro sports.
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12/7 Conference championships are round one. Those 10 teams plus the next 6 highest ranked teams as “wildcards”
12/14 The 8 winners are “seeded” by the committee. This cuts it to the final 4. From here you use the current system.
It only adds one additional weekend for 8 teams.
The 8 losers could be assigned to play in predetermined bowl games along with the round 1 losers.
16 teams make the playoffs. We still have conference champions and we get to keep all the meaningless bowl games we currently have.
12/14 The 8 winners are “seeded” by the committee. This cuts it to the final 4. From here you use the current system.
It only adds one additional weekend for 8 teams.
The 8 losers could be assigned to play in predetermined bowl games along with the round 1 losers.
16 teams make the playoffs. We still have conference champions and we get to keep all the meaningless bowl games we currently have.
But teams would be better off dropping down and playing in the sun belt or mountain west in that scenario.
I want to see the best teams compete for a championship, not the best team from every conference
That would be a potential issue However. with three G5 abd five P5 they would rotate who plays who over time. It’s similar to the Wild Card scenario in pro sports .
Despite the obvious weakness of three P5 conferences in the current season (ACC, Big 12 & Pac 12)...
There are currently 5 P5 conference champions...
There are 4 currently playoff spots...
Even excluding at-large bids, the math doesn't work. 8 seems to be the appropriate number imho.
There are currently 5 P5 conference champions...
There are 4 currently playoff spots...
Even excluding at-large bids, the math doesn't work. 8 seems to be the appropriate number imho.
Anyone who falls for this four team "eye test" ranking system to pick who plays for a championship are suckers for the system. The game is played on the field, make what happens on the field mean what it should. Scrap the crap games during the season, reward conference champs, and go with 8 or 16 teams. Any sports fan would watch that playoff system and the money would roll in.
I agree with the 8 team playoff, but don't believe the group of 5 should get an auto bid... Let them play for their own separate championship...
Also, remove the divisions and play a round robin to determine the conference champion.
I don’t see any wild card aspect. You have to win your conference. This is like telling the Seahawks or Vikings they don’t get to go to the playoffs but the 6-7 cowboys do
It very well may eventually extend beyond 8, but the reasoning for an 8-team preference is that it preserves more meaning to the regular season, while simultaneously offering hope for a team with a loss.
For example, if PSU won the MN game this year but still lost against OSU, who would be left out, 1 loss PSU or 1 loss OK? We all know that in that scenario that PSU would have earned the spot, but we also are aware enough to know that the bias of selection could very well lead to OK being selected anyway.
8 teams helps to avoid that scenario while maintaining the urgency of the regular season, inclusive at a minimum of each P5 conference champion.
16 team playoff. All P5 champs get a first round home game (think division winner in the NFL). All G5 champs qualify but not guaranteed a home game. Next best 6 chosen by the BCS rankings.
The regular season would be only conference opponents. In PSU’s case, they’d play 12 out of the other 13 teams. Determine the conference champ by regular season record and scrap the CCG. If a tie happens then use some kind of tie breaker. The runner up would likely get one of the 6 at large bids. This eliminates divisions and FCS match ups.
The regular season would be only conference opponents. In PSU’s case, they’d play 12 out of the other 13 teams. Determine the conference champ by regular season record and scrap the CCG. If a tie happens then use some kind of tie breaker. The runner up would likely get one of the 6 at large bids. This eliminates divisions and FCS match ups.
What if OSU lost to Wisky? In my scebario where there is no human bias -OSU is out.
This is really no different than pro sports. The human element is unique to college spirts (and perhaps FIFA) )
It might get rid of some of the urgency but popularity would go up. It’s part of the reason the NFL went to 4 divisions per conference and expanded the playoff. Keep as many fan bases as involved for as long as possible.
Totally agree about earning a spot on the field...but using the WI / OSU example, the western division teams can afford 2 losses and still make the championship game whereas the eastern division teams cannot. Since realignment to east / west, the east has won EVERY Big Ten championship.
I would like to see a 12 team playoff where the top 4 teams get byes and #5-12 play each other to form the final 8. Seeds 5-8 get home field. The overall top 4 teams then get a home game vs the winners of the 5-12 games which keeps the regular season as relevant as it is now.
From there the final 4 play at neutral sites/bowls like they do now along with the title game.
A minimum of 4 (and up to 8) teams will only play one extra game. A max of 2 teams will play 4 extra games if they make the title game but more likely it will be 0 or 1 teams which play 4. If the top seeds hold then they would be playing 3 extra games if they reach title game (vs 2 in current system).
If there is still worry about that being too many games for teams then take out one non-conference game and cut regular season to 11 games if necessary. Clemson doesn’t need to play Wofford and PSU doesn’t need to play Kent St (or maybe we do to work out the new offense)
From there the final 4 play at neutral sites/bowls like they do now along with the title game.
A minimum of 4 (and up to 8) teams will only play one extra game. A max of 2 teams will play 4 extra games if they make the title game but more likely it will be 0 or 1 teams which play 4. If the top seeds hold then they would be playing 3 extra games if they reach title game (vs 2 in current system).
If there is still worry about that being too many games for teams then take out one non-conference game and cut regular season to 11 games if necessary. Clemson doesn’t need to play Wofford and PSU doesn’t need to play Kent St (or maybe we do to work out the new offense)
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I honestly don't know how they get into the top 10 with the schedule they play. Think about it. Mediocre power 5 teams play a tougher schedule and yet they can't get in the top
Do away with divisions. They are crap anyway. They don't neccesarily bring out the 2 best teams in the conference.
