Excellent! I'm sure Pitt would love to be a member of the B1G and this should be antagonistic to them. Oh well!
Why would they care? That's only our one compared to their 35.
I have a likely unpopular opinion that I don’t like 2016 added, and I think the most recent season listed should be 1994. Last year was a 3-loss season that included a loss in the bowl game and a loss to Pitt. Big difference between that and 1982. Heck, 1981 was a better year than last year and I don’t want to see that one listed.
I remember watching Vikings games on TV when they were in the Metrodome, and they’d have a listing of playoff seasons on a banner you’d see on FG/EP attempts. I’d just think whoop-dee-doo, what did they really win?
It’s just a matter of preference.
I have a likely unpopular opinion that I don’t like 2016 added, and I think the most recent season listed should be 1994. Last year was a 3-loss season that included a loss in the bowl game and a loss to Pitt. Big difference between that and 1982. Heck, 1981 was a better year than last year and I don’t want to see that one listed.
I remember watching Vikings games on TV when they were in the Metrodome, and they’d have a listing of playoff seasons on a banner you’d see on FG/EP attempts. I’d just think whoop-dee-doo, what did they really win?
It’s just a matter of preference.
Your photo should be published and named the Rodney Erickson wall of Shame.Add it to the wall.
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We have lowered the bar.
We have lowered the bar.
I have a likely unpopular opinion that I don’t like 2016 added, and I think the most recent season listed should be 1994. Last year was a 3-loss season that included a loss in the bowl game and a loss to Pitt. Big difference between that and 1982. Heck, 1981 was a better year than last year and I don’t want to see that one listed.
I remember watching Vikings games on TV when they were in the Metrodome, and they’d have a listing of playoff seasons on a banner you’d see on FG/EP attempts. I’d just think whoop-dee-doo, what did they really win?
It’s just a matter of preference.
I'd like to see them remove the 2012 year from the wall (feel free to honor that team within the stadium, but the year being up there doesn't make any sense) and this is the time to do it when putting up a new year.
I'd like to see them remove the 2012 year from the wall (feel free to honor that team within the stadium, but the year being up there doesn't make any sense) and this is the time to do it when putting up a new year.
I have a likely unpopular opinion that I don’t like 2016 added, and I think the most recent season listed should be 1994. Last year was a 3-loss season that included a loss in the bowl game and a loss to Pitt. Big difference between that and 1982. Heck, 1981 was a better year than last year and I don’t want to see that one listed.
I remember watching Vikings games on TV when they were in the Metrodome, and they’d have a listing of playoff seasons on a banner you’d see on FG/EP attempts. I’d just think whoop-dee-doo, what did they really win?
It’s just a matter of preference.
I agree with you. I never understood the meaning of the years on the suites. Is there any real criteria? Though '94 might be out best team ever, I would be hesitant to even have that on the box. To me, the only 2 years listed should be 1982 and 1986.
Maybe below those 2 should be 1994, 2005, 2008, 2016 for conference championships.
Well you can boo lustily on September 9 when "2016" is revealed. Have fun with that.
I'd like to see them remove the 2012 year from the wall (feel free to honor that team within the stadium, but the year being up there doesn't make any sense) and this is the time to do it when putting up a new year.
Why would I boo? You might want to reread the last sentence of the post you replied to.
Not sure what I misread. You said you agreed with someone who questioned why PSU put years up to commemorate certain teams. You questioned having 1994 listed, even though that was an undefeated team that won PSU's first B1G championship. Given what you wrote, I can only guess that you'll be very upset seeing 2016 unveiled so I figured you would react accordingly.
I would most like to see just the 2 National Championships, however, wouldn't be opposed to B1G championships listed below or in smaller font. You know, because Conference Championships don't measure up to National Championships.
Why should an 8-4 season with losses to Ohio U and UVA be listed amongst championship seasons?
My point is, there's no standard criteria and it's apparently circumstantial. A fan of another team or even a lot of PSU fans don't know what some of those years are doing on the suites.
If a Penn State fan doesn't know what 2012 is doing on the suites, then they've been asleep for 5 years and their opinion is worthless. In the grand scheme of things, 2012 is AT LEAST as important as any championship team PSU has ever had, IMHO.
To each their own. That's a huge slap in the face to all teams who have won a national title though.
Other major programs recognize championships. We recognize "memorable years".
It would be nice if we didn't engage in such goofy s**t
To each their own. That's a huge slap in the face to all teams who have won a national title though.
Other major programs recognize championships. We recognize "memorable years".
It would be nice if we didn't engage in such goofy s**t
How in the world is it a slap in the face to the 1982 and 1986 teams to recognize the team that literally saved Penn State football? That is not hyperbole, there is no program today if that 2012 team falls apart and they all transfer. I'm at a loss as to how any Penn State fan can minimize the contribution of that team. Maybe you're who Emmert was talking about when he said we only care about winning.
Other major programs recognize championships.
"Saved Penn State football"? I think you're trying a bit too hard to add dramatic effect. No doubt the team deserves a ton of credit. But, players stick with teams all time who are under sanctions (See Ohio State's 2012 undefeated season). It isn't that easy to just leave schools and begin somewhere new. A few players on the team left and it's certainly debatable whether they benefitted from their decision or not.
But, since you seem to have all answers, why isn't the 2014 season on the box? The team won a game in Ireland, first season with a black head coach, and beat BC in a bowl game in the first seasons post-sanctions. Certainly very memorable!
Who cares? They're all going to be taken down during the stadium rebuild, just wait and see. Time to "move on". Remember? Just another way to erase history.PS4814 wrote: You don't have an unpopular opinion - it just doesn't follow any logic.
So you say let’s examine logic later.
PS4814 wrote: In 1994 - what did we win?
Uhhh…”we” won all the games played, although my contribution only consisted of viewing from the stands or TV.
PS4814 wrote: What did we win in 2005, 2008 and 2016? The Big 10 championship.
Well, two of those years “we” didn’t win the last game played, toss in another one or two along the way also. Want to have a plaque somewhere listing conference championships, fine. PSUoh provided good examples with how OU and the Illini differentiate meanings with their displays.
PS4814 wrote: The only difference is that in 1994 we went undefeated.
That’s all? Just a difference of a piddly 3 games? Does that mean 7-6 should be listed up there if the necessary combination of wins were to occur? Let’s bring back talk of lowering expectations then.
PS4814 wrote: By your logic
I did not list my logic. You created something in your mind
PS4814 wrote: only teams that went undefeated should be on the wall. Guess you'll have to take down 1982 then b/c we went 11-1.Take down 1947 b/c we were 9-0-1 that year. Take down 1921 8-0-2, 1920 7-0-2, 1911 8-0-1 and 1909 5-0-2. Finally take down 1894 b/c we were 6-0-1.
Now let’s revisit logic, you wrote undefeated and then listed a bunch of undefeated teams to be taken down. Do you understand the meaning of the word logic?
As for 1982, I would most certainly list that season. I can’t help you if you don’t understand.
I'll give it one more shot and try to keep it short.PS4814 wrote: You don't have an unpopular opinion - it just doesn't follow any logic.
So you say let’s examine logic later.
PS4814 wrote: In 1994 - what did we win?
Uhhh…”we” won all the games played, although my contribution only consisted of viewing from the stands or TV.
PS4814 wrote: What did we win in 2005, 2008 and 2016? The Big 10 championship.
Well, two of those years “we” didn’t win the last game played, toss in another one or two along the way also. Want to have a plaque somewhere listing conference championships, fine. PSUoh provided good examples with how OU and the Illini differentiate meanings with their displays.
PS4814 wrote: The only difference is that in 1994 we went undefeated.
That’s all? Just a difference of a piddly 3 games? Does that mean 7-6 should be listed up there if the necessary combination of wins were to occur? Let’s bring back talk of lowering expectations then.
PS4814 wrote: By your logic
I did not list my logic. You created something in your mind
PS4814 wrote: only teams that went undefeated should be on the wall. Guess you'll have to take down 1982 then b/c we went 11-1.Take down 1947 b/c we were 9-0-1 that year. Take down 1921 8-0-2, 1920 7-0-2, 1911 8-0-1 and 1909 5-0-2. Finally take down 1894 b/c we were 6-0-1.
Now let’s revisit logic, you wrote undefeated and then listed a bunch of undefeated teams to be taken down. Do you understand the meaning of the word logic?
As for 1982, I would most certainly list that season. I can’t help you if you don’t understand.
The criteria is simple: The years, with the exception of 1012, which has been discussed above, represent either undefeated teams, national champion teams, or conference champion teams.I agree with you. I never understood the meaning of the years on the suites. Is there any real criteria? Though '94 might be out best team ever, I would be hesitant to even have that on the box. To me, the only 2 years listed should be 1982 and 1986.
Maybe below those 2 should be 1994, 2005, 2008, 2016 for conference championships.
The criteria is simple: The years, with the exception of 1012, which has been discussed above, represent either undefeated teams, national champion teams, or conference champion teams.