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2018 NCAAs -- Session 4 Thread

Damn, I think I still might favor tOSU at this point.

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Finals Matches for PSU Wrestlers:
149 - ZPain vs. Ronald Perry (Lock Haven)
157: Nolf vs. Hayden Hidlay (NC State)
165: Joseph vs. Isaiah Martinez (Illinois)
174: Hall vs. Zahid Valencia (Arizona State)
184: Nickal vs. Myles Martin (Ohio State)

Consolation R6 Matches for PSU Wrestlers:
141: Lee vs. Jaydin Eierman (Missouri)

7th Place Matches for PSU Wrestlers:
197: Rasheed vs. William Miklus (Missouri)
285: Nevills vs. Youssif Hermida (Maryland)
 
3.5 points per win (not including bonus), right?

tOSU probably goes 4-2.
PSU 0-1

I'll say 1 bonus point for tOSU. 15 total

Then they probably gain another 4 or so in placement matches.

tOSU +8 or so headed into the finals.
 
do you get advancement points when wrestling for a podium spot or is it already included in the placement score?
 
hypothetically speaking...
NLee 0-2 0 pts 6th place
Zain 1st 4pts (4 for placement)
Nolf 1st 4pts
Cenzo 2nd 0pts
Hall 2nd 0pts
Bo 1st 4 pts
Rasheed 8th 0pt
Nevills 7th 1pt

thats 13 pts w/ 0 bonus

OSU
Nato 3rd 4pts (already got 6th place points and difference is 4pts)
pletch 3rd 4pts
mckenna 4th 3pts
MJo 4th 3 pts
BJo 3rd 4pts
MyMar 2nd 0pts
Moore 3rd 4pts
snyder 1st 4pts
total 26 pts

we are up 11 and if this happens as noted we lose by 2 pts. but i also think there some bonus hanging out there, but bonus potential just because of the amount of matches favors the yuks

edit: forgot adv points add those in and PSU under the above gets an add'l 0 pts and tOSU gets 3pts. its been a long day so I may have something wrong but you smell what the rock is cooking
 
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hypothetically speaking...
NLee 0-2 0 pts 6th place
Zain 1st 4pts (4 for placement)
Nolf 1st 4pts
Cenzo 2nd 0pts
Hall 2nd 0pts
Bo 1st 4 pts
Rasheed 8th 0pt
Nevills 7th 1pt

thats 13 pts w/ 0 bonus

OSU
Nato 3rd 4pts (already got 6th place points and difference is 4pts)
pletch 3rd 4pts
mckenna 4th 3pts
MJo 4th 3 pts
BJo 3rd 4pts
MyMar 2nd 0pts
Moore 3rd 4pts
snyder 1st 4pts
total 26 pts

we are up 11 and if this happens as noted we lose by 2 pts. but i also think there some bonus hanging out there, but bonus potential just because of the amount of matches favors the yuks

wouldn't nato and others get another half a point for advancement?
 
hypothetically speaking...
NLee 0-2 0 pts 6th place
Zain 1st 4pts (4 for placement)
Nolf 1st 4pts
Cenzo 2nd 0pts
Hall 2nd 0pts
Bo 1st 4 pts
Rasheed 8th 0pt
Nevills 7th 1pt

thats 13 pts w/ 0 bonus

OSU
Nato 3rd 4pts (already got 6th place points and difference is 4pts)
pletch 3rd 4pts
mckenna 4th 3pts
MJo 4th 3 pts
BJo 3rd 4pts
MyMar 2nd 0pts
Moore 3rd 4pts
snyder 1st 4pts
total 26 pts

we are up 11 and if this happens as noted we lose by 2 pts. but i also think there some bonus hanging out there, but bonus potential just because of the amount of matches favors the yuks

Apart from Martin losing to Bo, that is the ultimate, everything going the Bucknuts way scenario. Ain't gonna happen.
 
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hypothetically speaking...
NLee 0-2 0 pts 6th place
Zain 1st 4pts (4 for placement)
Nolf 1st 4pts
Cenzo 2nd 0pts
Hall 2nd 0pts
Bo 1st 4 pts
Rasheed 8th 0pt
Nevills 7th 1pt

thats 13 pts w/ 0 bonus

OSU
Nato 3rd 4pts (already got 6th place points and difference is 4pts)
pletch 3rd 4pts
mckenna 4th 3pts
MJo 4th 3 pts
BJo 3rd 4pts
MyMar 2nd 0pts
Moore 3rd 4pts
snyder 1st 4pts
total 26 pts

we are up 11 and if this happens as noted we lose by 2 pts. but i also think there some bonus hanging out there, but bonus potential just because of the amount of matches favors the yuks

My math is similar. Need another 1 or 2 upset losses for the buckeyes. Nevills loss to Stoll hurt. Shak's gotta be kicking himself for the QF loss to Macch. Add in some of the screwy seeding that limited our bonus potential in the earlier rounds with some of the breaks that OSU caught to bolster their bonus. The title will be there for us to win tomorrow night, but it most likely is going to take another effort like last year's finals. Gotta tip your hat to both PSU and OSU no matter the outcome.
 
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And for whoever asked about bonus for osu, unless any of their opponents phone it in, I don’t see any surefire bonus matches for them.
 
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Damn fellas what a day! Love how our boys show up on Friday evenings. Few loses but that's how it goes. Tipping my glass to at least 3 wins in the morning and same in the evening
 
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hypothetically speaking...
NLee 0-2 0 pts 6th place
Zain 1st 4pts (4 for placement)
Nolf 1st 4pts
Cenzo 2nd 0pts
Hall 2nd 0pts
Bo 1st 4 pts
Rasheed 8th 0pt
Nevills 7th 1pt

thats 13 pts w/ 0 bonus

OSU
Nato 3rd 4pts (already got 6th place points and difference is 4pts)
pletch 3rd 4pts
mckenna 4th 3pts
MJo 4th 3 pts
BJo 3rd 4pts
MyMar 2nd 0pts
Moore 3rd 4pts
snyder 1st 4pts
total 26 pts

we are up 11 and if this happens as noted we lose by 2 pts. but i also think there some bonus hanging out there, but bonus potential just because of the amount of matches favors the yuks

edit: forgot adv points add those in and PSU under the above gets an add'l 0 pts and tOSU gets 3pts. its been a long day so I may have something wrong but you smell what the rock is cooking

Hear what you are saying Dunke, but I'm drunk and irrational right now. 4-5 with backside help gets it done. Coon wins btw
 
No matter how tomorrow shakes out, I’m formally requesting whoever said they didn’t see any fight in this team to run it back IMMEDIATELY. Nick Lee has fought like hell and has a chance to be the hero tomorrow morning. And our studs did what they do, hell, one-legged Nolf is still a top 10 scorer. #PositiveinFUNity
 
No matter how tomorrow shakes out, I’m formally requesting whoever said they didn’t see any fight in this team to run it back IMMEDIATELY. Nick Lee has fought like hell and has a chance to be the hero tomorrow morning. And our studs did what they do, hell, one-legged Nolf is still a top 10 scorer. #PositiveinFUNity
I've been way to busy last two days watching wrestling, keeping track of our little bracket contest and drinking that haven't followed the board. I felt like we were underdog several times but to think with our horses that we were ever out of it you just don't understand how a big wrestling tournament works. Hope things didn't get to ugly and I'm not reading all the threads. Something I've learned following my sons HS team (8 titles in 11 years) and Caels team is never count us out.
Give it Hell boys!!! I know I'm gonna
 
The bottom line - if anyone was thinking the team race was going to be like last year (over by early Saturday) has not been paying attention. O$U has a bomb squad. Good news is PSU does too! I do believe this will come down to Saturday night and the good guys will need to win 3 of 5 matches (one of them being Bo) in the finals to get it done (assuming Lee takes 4th and Shak & Nevills take 7th).
 
In the every little bit helps category...

Last year 133,141,197,285 scored 18.5 in the tournament (Gulibon-4.5, Cutch-4, Nevills-10)

This year, the tournament isn't even over an those same weights have scored 26 (Keener-.5, Lee-10.5, Rasheed-7.5, Nevills-7.5).

Thanks for doing that work. I posted before the tournament that Penn State that a big plus this year would be more points from 133, 141 and 197. Those points will loom large, I believe. They could ultimately help deliver the championship.
 
hypothetically speaking...
NLee 0-2 0 pts 6th place
Zain 1st 4pts (4 for placement)
Nolf 1st 4pts
Cenzo 2nd 0pts
Hall 2nd 0pts
Bo 1st 4 pts
Rasheed 8th 0pt
Nevills 7th 1pt

thats 13 pts w/ 0 bonus

OSU
Nato 3rd 4pts (already got 6th place points and difference is 4pts)
pletch 3rd 4pts
mckenna 4th 3pts
MJo 4th 3 pts
BJo 3rd 4pts
MyMar 2nd 0pts
Moore 3rd 4pts
snyder 1st 4pts
total 26 pts

we are up 11 and if this happens as noted we lose by 2 pts. but i also think there some bonus hanging out there, but bonus potential just because of the amount of matches favors the yuks

edit: forgot adv points add those in and PSU under the above gets an add'l 0 pts and tOSU gets 3pts. its been a long day so I may have something wrong but you smell what the rock is cooking


Each consi semi finalist can score up to 8.5 additional points

Each 7/8 wrestler can score up to 3 additional points

Each Finalist can score up to 6 additional points
 
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The bottom line - if anyone was thinking the team race was going to be like last year (over by early Saturday) has not been paying attention. O$U has a bomb squad. Good news is PSU does too! I do believe this will come down to Saturday night and the good guys will need to win 3 of 5 matches (one of them being Bo) in the finals to get it done (assuming Lee takes 4th and Shak & Nevills take 7th).

To tack on there, Shak should be favored, maybe he’s fresh, who knows at this point? And also, Nevills HAS majored Hemida before, hopefully someone overnights his offense to him. I know Saturday AM delivery is expensive... I’m saying Nick Lee over McKenna for third just so everybody that whined over him losing in rd1 has to eat it.
 
tOSU
NaTo
-- takes 3rd overall with some bonus (MD?) in match 1 (vs Rivera) but not match 2 (vs Cruz or Lizak)
Pletcher -- takes 3rd overall with no bonus in match 1 (vs Brock) or match 2 (vs Delvecchio)
McKenna -- takes 4th overall possible bonus (MD) in match 1 (vs Jack) and loss in match 2 (vs Eierman)
M. Jordan -- takes 4th overall with no bonus in match 1 (vs Berger) and loss in match 2 (vs Kemerer)
BoJo -- takes 5th overall with loss in match 1 (vs Amine) and non-bonus win in match 2 (vs Kutler)
Martin -- loses to Bo, gets no more bonus
Moore -- takes 5th overall with loss in match 1 (vs Darmstadt) and MD bonus win in match 2 (vs Conel)
Snyder -- loses close one to Coon, gets no more bonus

PSU
We win 4 of the 5 NC and no one bonuses tomorrow except Zain (fall) and Nolf (MD)

RESULT: PSU 141.5 tOSU 131.5
 
tOSU
NaTo
-- takes 3rd overall with some bonus (MD?) in match 1 (vs Rivera) but not match 2 (vs Cruz or Lizak)
Pletcher -- takes 3rd overall with no bonus in match 1 (vs Brock) or match 2 (vs Delvecchio)
McKenna -- takes 4th overall possible bonus (MD) in match 1 (vs Jack) and loss in match 2 (vs Eierman)
M. Jordan -- takes 4th overall with no bonus in match 1 (vs Berger) and loss in match 2 (vs Kemerer)
BoJo -- takes 5th overall with loss in match 1 (vs Amine) and non-bonus win in match 2 (vs Kutler)
Martin -- loses to Bo, gets no more bonus
Moore -- takes 5th overall with loss in match 1 (vs Darmstadt) and MD bonus win in match 2 (vs Conel)
Snyder -- loses close one to Coon, gets no more bonus

PSU
We win 4 of the 5 NC and no one bonuses tomorrow except Zain (fall) and Nolf (MD)

RESULT: PSU 141.5 tOSU 131.5

I like that except for NaTo, I said before, don’t sleep on Rivera that he’ll AA and I don’t think NaTo bonuses him on a 1 hour weigh-in

Edit I also think Nolf Techs or pins.
 
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