2018 NCAAs -- Session 4 Thread
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After what he did to Micah, I don't doubt it. Seemed to be the old Jason -- just playing with his food.
Mostly agree with your projections, except:
Pletcher versus Brock is pretty much a toss up IMO. If Pletcher loses, he is likely to beat the Wilson/Delvecchio loser (whom I expect to be Delvecchio) for 5th place. If he wins, its could be another toss-up against Wilson, though maybe a slight edge to Wilson with his length? Anywhere from 5th to 3rd possible (1 to 4.5 additional points)
I actually like Amine over BoJo, but its certainly no lock. The loser gets the loser of Lewis/Kutler. I would also take either over BoJo, in a close match. Who knows what will happen, but 6th place is probably more likely than 3rd, IMO.
I also like Darmstadt over Moore, in a close bout. The loser gets the loser of Konel/Holschag. I think Moore beats either one, for 5th place (1 point)
Also, how lucky has Micah Jordan been in this tournament? He lucks out again and avoids Pantaleo and Kemerer. Instead, Jordan gets Berger, and will beat him, but then lose the 3rd place match. Hopefully Berger can avoid bonus. (3.5 points)
Agree about Nato (3rd, clear favorite) and McKenna (4th). Also think Snyder finds a way to beat Coon.
The idea that Nick Lee could face McKenna in a match that could help determine the title is intriguing. Personally, I am hoping Nick finds a way past Eierman tomorrow and faces Jack for 3rd, while McKenna falls to the 5th/6th place match. My pessimistic side thinks it might be the opposite.
Another note about Lee. He fought back having to beat a ranked/seeded wrestler in every match until his last one tonight. Granted they were all seeded lower than him, but there were no easy matches. He did what he had to/should have done. Kudos to him after a disappointing start.
Another note about Lee. He fought back having to beat a ranked/seeded wrestler in every match until his last one tonight. Granted they were all seeded lower than him, but there were no easy matches. He did what he had to/should have done. Kudos to him after a disappointing start.
A 2 time AA and 7th or 8th best heavyweight is “serviceable”? Come on..
Lee will finally face top-flight guys (Eierman and then Jack or Mckenna) in the consolation bracket; his draw up to this point has been very favorable. He is likely to go 0-2 against these guys and finish 6th.
Shak has a tough match against Miklus. Nevills should be able to beat Hemida for 7th.
But overall, the potential for additional PSU points in the consolation bracket is pretty limited.
If tOSU really kills it in the consolation placers in the morning, PSU may need to win four matches in the finals. If they just do "okay", three PSU wins may do it.
Eierman is at another level than the guys Lee has been beating in the consolation bracket. Also expect McKenna to beat Jack.
As a former Berks County resident I had a lot of pride in Desanto. But I was enormously dissapointed in his thuggish display at the end of the match. I don't understand how he wasn't DQd. There's no way he should still be wrestling in this tourney after this. That's one of the worst cases of sportsmanship I have ever seen. He even pushed the ref. I really don't see how the Drexel coaches don't discipline him. That was absolutely disgraceful.
Many of us on here were big fans. Count me as a former fan.
It's been said he had an incident at the EIWA conference too. What would probably have been best for him is for his coaches to make him FF his next match. The next best thing happened by him losing the blood round match and not getting the positive reinforcement becoming an AA may have provided.
What was Zain's approach in the semi-finals?
Haven't seen much comment about it, but I was surprised to see the emphasis on takedowns and choosing neutral. No real attempt at dominating from the top and going for the fall. He was in no danger of losing the match, but may have lost the opportunity for bonus. The wrestler from UNC defended fairly well in neutral position.
Haven't seen much comment about it, but I was surprised to see the emphasis on takedowns and choosing neutral. No real attempt at dominating from the top and going for the fall. He was in no danger of losing the match, but may have lost the opportunity for bonus. The wrestler from UNC defended fairly well in neutral position.
Yes, that is correct. On a related issue, the reason for big moves in semifinal matches is because, as a semifinalist, you still might finish as low as 6th place. So, when a wrestler wins a semifinal match, he gets the jump in points from a 6th place finish (6 pts) to the guaranteed points for 2nd place (12 pts), plus whatever bonus he earns. When you have 5 wrestlers cranking out anywhere from 6 to 8 points per win, you make up a lot of ground pretty darn quickly.
A win over Eierman would be huge for Nick and for the team score (3 points). Rasheed and Nevills are both higher (better) seeds than their opponents, and could pick up 1 point each with a win. Those 5 points would make the evening session a lot more enjoyable.
That's quite an assumption; Eierman's the 2 seed. But those 3 points (going from 6th to 4th) would be huge.
Here’s an interesting factoid about this year’s tournament (or maybe it’s not interesting and I just need more sleep): two wrestlers will finish their careers this weekend having won a title as freshmen but having never won another: T-shirt and Nato.
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Love Zain. But....Zain took him down with 18-19 sec. remaining for a 9-3 lead. Riding time was locked but Zain never let him up until 3 sec. to go. That seemed like a solid chance at 1 extra point with a single take down in the 18 sec. remaining. Strange finish .....never attempting to get the extra takedown. I hope that doesn't burn PSU at the end
Survive? LOL Once it became clear to Heilmann that he was gonna get tech'd by Zain if he continued wrestling to win, he did what every one else did...got on his horse and blocked and stalled the rest of the way. "He ain't TFing me."
Flo should think about taking down that BS "Vision Quest" video. That kid ain't beating Shute or getting Linda Fiorentino. (Well, she's pretty old by now. Maybe she'd want a young'un.)
Desanto is on the autism spectrum. I'm not saying that type of behavior should be condoned, I just think it should be considered before condemning him as a bad kid. I also think the refs need to be aware of this and certainly be more involved in the match.
Also... how do you know that? Heard folks throwing that around but who has ever confirmed? These days, we all have something...(if you look real hard or throw out a convenient response)
nice to see asst coach goodale back stage congratulating his newest AA
I hope Donnie gets some votes for HC of the year.
I hope Donnie gets some votes for HC of the year.
Yeah, I have the same question. I just don't know enough about autism or what the autism spectrum constitutes. I've got mixed emotions about it all anyway. I'm not suggesting that Desanto is a bad kid because I don't know him or much about him. Obviously we don't want to discriminate or look down on kids that have some kind of disability that's beyond their control. That said, we still have some responsibility to the other wrestlers and to the integrity of the sport. If he can control himself within the rules, then have it at and good luck, but what he demonstrated this weekend can't be accepted.
Regardless, he had a whole arena full of interest and backing as the kid who beat Spencer Lee and could finally bring another AA to Drexel. If you think the ref should be more aware, then his coach should be more on top of him. He pretty much most the interest or favor of everyone in the arena on a match by match basis. Too many good stories to consider instead.
Is that right? Hadn't heard that. My son is autistic so I'm interested in the stories of others. That said, occasional outbursts like Desanto had should not be tolerated and should be subject to applicable penalties.
cael interview after the semis
http://www.trackwrestling.com/tw/Po...TIM=1521291790878&twSessionId=gzxvlkirpbfqrxd
Flo: is there a consistent message that you convey all year that lands on a day like today
CS: theres not.
#bossmode
http://www.trackwrestling.com/tw/Po...TIM=1521291790878&twSessionId=gzxvlkirpbfqrxd
Flo: is there a consistent message that you convey all year that lands on a day like today
CS: theres not.
#bossmode
Zain interview after semis
http://www.trackwrestling.com/tw/Po...twSessionId=gzxvlkirpbfqrxd&videoId=636428132
http://www.trackwrestling.com/tw/Po...twSessionId=gzxvlkirpbfqrxd&videoId=636428132
nolf interview after semis: "I can turn anyone"
http://www.trackwrestling.com/tw/Po...twSessionId=gzxvlkirpbfqrxd&videoId=636426132
http://www.trackwrestling.com/tw/Po...twSessionId=gzxvlkirpbfqrxd&videoId=636426132
First couple paragraphs from the National Institute of Health (nih.gov):
"Autism spectrum disorder (ASD) is the name for a group of developmental disorders. ASD includes a wide range, “a spectrum,” of symptoms, skills, and levels of disability. People with ASD often have these characteristics:
- Ongoing social problems that include difficulty communicating and interacting with others
- Repetitive behaviors as well as limited interests or activities
- Symptoms that typically are recognized in the first two years of life
- Symptoms that hurt the individual’s ability to function socially, at school or work, or other areas of life
Not knowing anything personally, from afar I would guess mildly impaired.
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