2018 Recruiting Thread
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That's wrong. Recent history shows that you need 60- 70% , 4 or 5 stars on your roster not top T classes
I'm wrong? Where is your proof? We've had numerous discussions on this board backing me up. I guess you must have missed them. Plus there are lots of articles that crunch the data stating top recruiting classes allow you to compete for national championships.
Here are a couple:
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2613145-do-top-10-recruiting-classes-really-equal-championships/
[URL]https://fansided.com/2017/01/30/recruiting-ranking-national-champions/
Here are a couple:
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2613145-do-top-10-recruiting-classes-really-equal-championships/
[URL]https://fansided.com/2017/01/30/recruiting-ranking-national-champions/
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You do know there is no trophy being right! Even with your own articles it states it is not paramount to have top 5 classes. I am not missing a thing. To be a national lions hip oocconed you need about fifty to sixty 4-5 star recruits
So if I consistently have a recruiting class of 20 and I get 13-15 four star recruits the I will be the high chance to be a national title contender. 20 recruits will most likely not putyou in top 5
Can somebody who knows the rules, please give me an answer based on facts? I've seen 2 references in the past week about schools being "unable to recruit" someone. First tOSU with Micah, and most recently us with Solomon Enis. The statement is very vague. Does it mean the school is not allowed to sign the player, or just that they are no longer allowed to have contact until the player signs with a school.
There is obviously a BIG difference! If the latter is true, I would believe the potential PSU violation has no impact on Enis' final decision. By this time, he knows exactly who we are. If the school is not allowed to sign the player, that is a major issue! I will say that even as a PSU fan, that punishment seems to harsh for the crime - even in the case of Parsons with tOSU.
There is obviously a BIG difference! If the latter is true, I would believe the potential PSU violation has no impact on Enis' final decision. By this time, he knows exactly who we are. If the school is not allowed to sign the player, that is a major issue! I will say that even as a PSU fan, that punishment seems to harsh for the crime - even in the case of Parsons with tOSU.
Just depends on the size of the class, but if you maintain a number even close to 60-70% over 4-5 years you will be winning 9-10+ games a year regardless of the overall ranking. There are exceptions to the rule every few years...FSU, ND, Texas....but it is much easier to win consistently when you are pulling in top 300 kids.
I believe the deleted tweet was announcing NLOI signings. It may have mistakenly referenced Enis. If that is the case, the issue is that Penn State stepped on his announcement day surprise (whenever that may be)....not that they broke any (secondary) NCAA rules.
If this panic was brought on by the Parsons/OSU situation, the notion that OSU stepped away from recruiting Parsons because rule stipulates weren't allowed to is patently false.
There is nothing to prevent a school from continuing to recruit a player in this circumstance, but if they want minimize damage (ie, any questions about the players' eligibility) they essentially need to self report and slap themselves on the wrist. This video was taken down immediately. Mistakes happen. No need to make a huge stink about it on PSU's end or the NCAAs.
There are no specific penalties for violating the two rules in question. They are assessed on a case by case basis. Typically they are slaps on the wrist. I've never seen a case where, because of similar violations, prospects were prohibited from enrolling at the school that committed the violation or had their eligibility compromised.
Yup, I never disagreed with that point. 4 and 5 stars directly correlates to your class ranking. That's why I thought it was odd he said I was wrong when we both have a similar point.
What I've read from the articles about Parsons is that him getting access to college Gameday is him receiving an improper benefit not available to the public.
My opinion is that if Enis has not been signed yet, it's like a coach commenting on a commit before they are signed. Does anyone know how sever a violation that is?
Also, what about Lavert Hill being announced at a hockey game? Was that a recruiting violation? This seems similar to me.
My opinion is that if Enis has not been signed yet, it's like a coach commenting on a commit before they are signed. Does anyone know how sever a violation that is?
Also, what about Lavert Hill being announced at a hockey game? Was that a recruiting violation? This seems similar to me.
Could be a minor violation depending on if Enis signed his LOI or not.
1. If LOI wasn't signed yet, and posted that video, then could be a minor violation as you can't reference recruits directly until they make it official. Notice how Penn State could never post about "Ricky Slade" or "Justin Shorter" on social media UNTIL they received their signed LOI.
2. If LOI was signed by Enis already and received, wouldn't be a violation. Penn State maybe just pulled that video down because they didn't want to ruin Enis's spotlight of announcing as it sounds he could possibly be a silent commit.
If the LOI wasn't signed and Penn State posted that video, don't see that as being a complete stop to Enis coming to Penn State however.
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Wade was #1 on Rivals. Franklin didn't say consensus #1 so he's technically not wrong. But I totally get your point with Swift. But who cares really. Franklin's main point is that he's doing his best in trying to bring in the top talent from PA which is what he's doing.
Remember the kertuffle about Barkley and Trace being on the Steelers' sideline?
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Doubt that it's an improper benefit. Schools, and even the NCAA, use images and video clips of players all the time and I've yet to see a citation because of it. Guessing that it has something to do with the prohibition that schools cannot publicize prospects they are recruiting until they sign the next 4-5 years of their lives away.
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credit where credit is due.... that was clever/well played
That would be my guess. Ordinarily, stuff like this is handled with little or no fanfare.
Don't know, that's why I asked. Someone posted a reply to my question that it was " completely obvious" that was the reason. So the question still stands.
JF made it seem likely we would get another recruit before this period ends. Looking highly unlikely at this point, at least an announcement. Who knows what he has in his pocket but seems we won't know now till Jan 4.
I know a mistake was just made with Enis, but for the life of me can't seem to know why he hasn't made an announcement yet. Why is he dragging this out, theres no real suspense like Oweh, Smith, or Walker.
I know a mistake was just made with Enis, but for the life of me can't seem to know why he hasn't made an announcement yet. Why is he dragging this out, theres no real suspense like Oweh, Smith, or Walker.
You haven't noticed that many of these kids have school. or other events and/or parties where in they want to make their announcements. Do you not get that this is a bigger decision for the 17/18 year old student/athlete than for you the fan. Good Grief!
I have to question the authenticity of that pic. I just don't see Nardoosh as a Croc's guy.
Ok, so let's review:
Still being pursued Walker, Enis, Oweh and a (DT from New Jersey________ {maybe} and __________________________?
Still being pursued Walker, Enis, Oweh and a (DT from New Jersey________ {maybe} and __________________________?
Tyler Friday, #3 DT from NJ, though Mich has been a heavy favorite.
Tyreke Smith, though that ship likely sailed, Franklin has likely not given up.
