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2019 NCAAs -- Session 6 Thread

I’m PSU all day, anyone saying ZV TDwasn’t 2 years is crazy. That’s two & Hall had “plenty” of time to recover...he didn’t! Period!!!
 
Having a ref review their own call is horrible. Not blaming the refs but that should be a possible change. Shouldn’t be left to the refs, I get it.
 
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He needed to get out in the second. If he did that , most likely a different ball game

Mark was good st countering Z. z didn’t have to shoot in the third
 
True, though even if Hall had escaped, I think Zahid takes it in overtime. Hall looked to be the more tired of the two.

No shame in losing to Valencia. He’s very talented.

True, no shame losing to Zahid. But it shouldn't have been due to a bad takedown call. Or maybe it was a takedown. I don't know anymore.
 
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You can't just shoot on Valencia. He's long and has great arms and hand fighting. Mark was much more aggressive this year and pressed the action. Both takedowns came from scrambles, not clean shots. There's a reason for that. Both are great at stopping shots. Tough match but Mark needed to get out and didn't.
 
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Tough loss for Hall. He's another one that wrestles close matches. That strategy is going to bite you sometimes. I don't understand why he doesn't open his offense up more. The talent to do so is certainly there.
 
Having a ref review their own call is horrible. Not blaming the refs but that should be a possible change. Shouldn’t be left to the refs, I get it.
Beat me to it ... just doesn't make any sense. Only thing this will breed is more useless challenges like hands to the face ... because a ref's not going to over turn their own call.
 
Tough loss for Hall. He's another one that wrestles close matches. That strategy is going to bite you sometimes. I don't understand why he doesn't open his offense up more. The talent to do so is certainly there.

In general I agree with this sentiment and it's fairly common here. That said, Zahid is a different animal and I think Mark wrestled him VERY well both times this year. Not taking anything away from Zahid, but I still think the takedown call was questionable and I think Z fled the entire 3rd period and could have EASILY been called for stalling twice.

Just a good match between two great and equally matched wrestlers. It happens and there's really no blame here.
 
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Having a ref review their own call is horrible. Not blaming the refs but that should be a possible change. Shouldn’t be left to the refs, I get it.

Yes, I thought they were going to a system where independent refs not on the floor review it in a booth. The crowd can sway calls. The coaches can influence. Refs don't want to overturn their friend's calls. I heard one ref say to the other "I got it as a TD. How about you?" That tends to cajole and even subtly coerce the other, especially when there are age and career factors involved.
 
True, though even if Hall had escaped, I think Zahid takes it in overtime. Hall looked to be the more tired of the two.

No shame in losing to Valencia. He’s very talented.
It’s easy to get tired when you are literally chasing a guy around the mat the whole 3rd period. ZV barely engaged. I guess that’s smart. Only one stall call with less than 30 sec left.
 
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hall got what he earned. its that simple. great season and one season left to finish on top.

embrace the grind
I think Hall has it but the smallest mistakes cost u at this level. Not everyone understands that and he has bigger aspirations than National titles. FACTS!! And I’ll say this, he and Zahid have been rolling for years, sometimes the common man gets ya...familiarity costs ya, friendships are forever!
 
I think Hall has it but the smallest mistakes cost u at this level. Not everyone understands that and he has bigger aspirations than National titles. FACTS!! And I’ll say this, he and Zahid have been rolling for years, sometimes the common man gets ya...familiarity costs ya, friendships are forever!
But which one is an athlete?
 
This is your guys' version of the flu/mono. Every guy who beats a Penn State guy in the finals is huge. There was actually a question of Lewis being at 157 this year because they had AA McFadden at 165. I'd expect him back at 165 next year.

Re-read the comments. Even a PSU hater like me will admit these guys have been really complimentary towards Lewis. Pretty classy.
 
I think Hall has it but the smallest mistakes cost u at this level. Not everyone understands that and he has bigger aspirations than National titles. FACTS!! And I’ll say this, he and Zahid have been rolling for years, sometimes the common man gets ya...familiarity costs ya, friendships are forever!
Do you get royalties for using "!!!!"
 
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