Surriano to 133. He'll avoid a repeat with Spencer. But I think Dayton Fix moves to 133 next year as well and the result will be there same
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Suriano won't beat Gross or Micic either. Which means, if Fix goes 133, Ohio State is capped at 5th.
On FRL today 34 min mark CP says MJo is dropping to 149, not RS mcKenna which effectively pushes Hayes out or to a real bad weight for him.
says that tOSU doesnt want to RS guys and wants to try and win next year and not concerned about 2020.
says that tOSU doesnt want to RS guys and wants to try and win next year and not concerned about 2020.
157 is a real bad weight for them no matter who they send out.
Holy shit. Hayes done dirty again. They trying to push him out with Sasso coming in?
With 2020 being an Olympic year, since both McKenna and Martin wrestle freestyle, I can see both of them wanting to complete their college eligibility and have 2020 to focus on freestyle.
Bummer for Hayes, options, 157, sit or transfer.
at 59 min mark they talk Cassar and CP says he is staying. However, in bantering back and forth, infers that schools are contacting him about going. The inference is that there could be shady goings on.
Assuming Zahid moves up to 184 as mentioned, is there any chance Bo and Shak switch weight classes? Both finalists at 197 are done. Is it unreasonable to think that Bo can compete the same at 197?
They are the deadlift champions.
Maybe he stays and beats Micah.
If Micah is definitely moving to 149, I bet Hayes is transferring.
I can guarantee you this does not happen. Wish full thinking for this board, but it’s not reality. Trust me on this.
Why would anyone who roots for Penn State, wish for Micah Jordan to move down to 149? He was just beaten 16-0 by our 157 pounder, who was wrestling on one leg. Trust me on this also.
So you are saying Rutgers is in the mix? That is to be expected, but why is ex Illinois head football coach Tim Beckman contacting Anthony? I suppose because he can't help himself.
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I heard that to and am not convinced. We won't know for sure until Nov but I would bet money on several tOSU starters redshirting next year. Tan Tom has had enough of the PSU midweight hammer. Waiting for Nolf, Nickal, Shak and Nevills to move on in one batch will be too tempting for him to not want to wait it out. In the end it may come down to the kids. Most are probably only on partial scholarships and one more year is not an easy decision, let alone sitting on the bench for a whole year after starting.
Will McKenna get a tan shirt? Is Myles eligible for a tan shirt? What about Pletcher, another tan shirt?
The main thing I’m guaranteeing is KeShawn Hayes not being shown the door to have Micah move down to 149.
This scenario is absurd on several levels. First Hayes led the team in tech falls and was a top 5 wrestler at a weight he didn’t even know he was wrestling until a week before the season.
He’s a pre med student a great kid, let alone a great wrestler. What logic on this planet would make sense showing Hayes the door or bench and open up a giant hole at 57 for an unproved true freshman to come in and take Jordan’s place, just to put Micah at 49?
Just like Nato went 125 instead of staying 133 this year, they will fill the roster the best they can with the best wrestlers and won’t sit or show the door to anyone who was wrestling this year. You can bank that.
So this is where all the speculation arises. No one knows what’s happening yet, I guarantee you this. Tom Ryan, for as much as a sleezeball some on here portray him to be, will absolutely approach each wrestler and their families with a redshirt plan and approach them all before ANY announcement on it were to be made, out of respect to everyone involved.
He won’t tell someone on Flo ESPECIALLY of it’s intentions a few days after the season is over, it’s common sense.
If an announcement comes out from the coach’s mouth Micah is going 149, then a redshirt reload is the best educated guess because Hayes won’t be shut out and he’s not goin 157. The only person on the roster who loses out with a reload season is Micah, whose exhausted his eligibility and the reboot year would be his last.
So what would you do for a kid who deserves the best send off? You drop him a weight where Retherford graduates and Nolf isn’t. It’s simple logic, as well as reboot for the year Nickal, Neville’s, and Nolf graduate for the team race.
Just my opinions of course.
This scenario is absurd on several levels. First Hayes led the team in tech falls and was a top 5 wrestler at a weight he didn’t even know he was wrestling until a week before the season.
He’s a pre med student a great kid, let alone a great wrestler. What logic on this planet would make sense showing Hayes the door or bench and open up a giant hole at 57 for an unproved true freshman to come in and take Jordan’s place, just to put Micah at 49?
Just like Nato went 125 instead of staying 133 this year, they will fill the roster the best they can with the best wrestlers and won’t sit or show the door to anyone who was wrestling this year. You can bank that.
So this is where all the speculation arises. No one knows what’s happening yet, I guarantee you this. Tom Ryan, for as much as a sleezeball some on here portray him to be, will absolutely approach each wrestler and their families with a redshirt plan and approach them all before ANY announcement on it were to be made, out of respect to everyone involved.
He won’t tell someone on Flo ESPECIALLY of it’s intentions a few days after the season is over, it’s common sense.
If an announcement comes out from the coach’s mouth Micah is going 149, then a redshirt reload is the best educated guess because Hayes won’t be shut out and he’s not goin 157. The only person on the roster who loses out with a reload season is Micah, whose exhausted his eligibility and the reboot year would be his last.
So what would you do for a kid who deserves the best send off? You drop him a weight where Retherford graduates and Nolf isn’t. It’s simple logic, as well as reboot for the year Nickal, Neville’s, and Nolf graduate for the team race.
Just my opinions of course.
To further my point and thinking, Haye’s dad Jason emailed ohiowrestling.net insider Bob Preusse directly on this rumor of KeShawn leaving the program and shot it down as completely made up and a false rumor, Hayes is going to be at Ohio State for the long haul.
LOL..a fascinating post in which you make a point in the first half of the post, then spend the final two paragraphs, contradicting the point you spent the first 75% of the post making. Now I'm completely in the dark: Do you want Micah to to 157 or don't you?
Hayes already shirted, so I don't understand him being part of any redshirt reload.
He could be put on an S&C plan to gain 15+ lb this offseason. That's not unchartered territory with athletes.
Moving him to 157 makes sense. If Jordan drops, OSU has 4 legitimate finalist candidates (141, 149, 184, 197) and an AA lock at 133. If Hayes can make the podium, and they can get 2 more guys to join him, they're in range if something goes wrong for us.
And, if Hayes adds weight to 157, then Sasso goes 149 in 2020.
Micah is at 157. How could he go to somewhere he already is? My point is if there is not a redshirt reload season next season like many are speculating, Micah won’t move to 149 to both sit/transfer Hayes out or create a giant hole at 57 for a true freshman to come in. If there is no redshirt reload , Micah would stay at 57 and Hayes at 49... it’s easily the best roster they can put out there. If there is a redshirt reload, I can absolutely see them rewarding Micah for his last season to go 149 and Hayes 141, while McKenna and Martin and even Pletcher get their redshirts. I just see ZERO scenario for moving Micah down a class to create a hole at 57 and remove a guy like Hayes out of the picture completely. My point is if Micah is announced to 149, the common sense dominos falling afterwards shouldn’t be too hard to predict.
don't think Micah will or can make 49 next year. With all the redshirting at tOSU talk, one must remember that the wrestler wants that redshirt as well.
I think the part you missed from my post I should have been clearer I apologize is if they do reward Micah to drop to 49, Hayes would drop to 41 and stay in the lineup while McKenna shirted.
We said the same thing about Tomasello. I'm willing to suspend judgment on that for a while.
Bo Jordan said in an interview Micah weighed in 4 pounds below the 157 weight limit for the national tournament. So if he’s competing at 153 he without question can drop to 149 without breaking a sweat, you would imagine anyway.
And, if Hayes goes down to 141, and people thought he had gas tank issues before....well...
The move that makes sense for them, if Ryan elects not to punt, is to move Micah to 149, and Hayes up to 157 and he takes his lumps against the bigger wrestlers, but maybe he doesn't gas and he picks them up points and they net more from the move, than they would with Hayes at 149 still gassing, and Micah at 157 being blocked by Kem and Nolf and Hidlay and Pantaleo. Hayes isn't coming near any of them either, but the smart money says Hayes might come very close to Micahs points, while Micah has a shot at doubling Hayes' points and a legit shot at the top of the podium.
This is why the speculation when combined with the CP nugget gets people talking.
The Jordans have given it all to tOSU and to Ryan. MJo went to 141 for cry'n out loud for the good of the team. Lets face it if MJo is going to get a championship his best chance is at 149 next year. Nolf, hidlay, kemdawg are just better than anything 149 has.
not sure why this nugget triggered you tonight. Speculation is what the off season is for.
Hayes can solve the whole thing and beat MJo in a wrestle off. But something suggests to me that MJo knows where he stands against Hayes and is why this info is out there.
Didn't look that way to me. Valencia is the biggest 174 pounder I've ever seen. That seemed to be the consensus in Cleveland. He was considerably bigger than every other wrestler at the weight.
