Beau is a Freshman, wrestling up a weight, who just beat the #5 kid in the country and people on here complaining that he isn’t wrestling like Jason Nolf the 2nd. Unbelievable.
2021 National Duals Results & Discussion
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But Starocci showed his offensive prowess in his redshirt year. BB hasn't shown any of that. I am not down on BB, but I have to judge by the eye test so far and level out my expectation on him. That said, I am not saying that he can't win a NT ever.
He's probably a 133 lber at other schools. If people can't watch and appreciate the intensity he is bringing to matches, moving 149ers back constantly and gassing a lot of them. The strength and hurt he's going to drop on 141 lbers in the future, the will to win, the technical superiority, and more. If they can't appreciate that, I don't know what to say.
Seems like a lot of people go through this season with some kind of "live up to the minute, fantasyland (because it never plays out like chalk), NCAA tournament scoring tabulation". This renders them unable to appreciate the efforts of team members who aren't going to ring up 20+ points in March.
I believe that RBY believes nobody can take him down.
The kid has a will to win and moxy at the highest level. I'll say he wins multiple titles.
I'm on board the BB = NCAA winner at 141 train. Might not be next year, but, also, the field really clears out at 141 after this year, too.
Looking at WrestleStat:
Eierman (SR*), Lee (SR*), Rivera (SR*), Carlson (SO), Willits (JR), Woods (SO), Red (SR*), Alirez (SO).
Not on the list but will be soon: Micic (SR****)
I think the strength and motor he's developing against significantly bigger opponents are going to help him beat the tar out of people next year.
Looking at WrestleStat:
Eierman (SR*), Lee (SR*), Rivera (SR*), Carlson (SO), Willits (JR), Woods (SO), Red (SR*), Alirez (SO).
Not on the list but will be soon: Micic (SR****)
I think the strength and motor he's developing against significantly bigger opponents are going to help him beat the tar out of people next year.
I call my daughter's by the wrong name and I only have two lolI blame my cognitive mistakes on a recent bout with Lyme disease (no kidding), but my father (who had 7 sons) always called us by the wrong names and I admit that I often call my sons each other's name and I only have 2.
I'm more concerned about Beaus bottom wrestling. I think the neutral offense will come in time..
Has anyone other than Sasso really rode him all that much? Honest question. My brain is a vacuum on the subject.
I think you're placing unrealistic expectations about Bartlett for his having not yet morphed into Jason Nolf, and wrongly assuming that the coaches share those unrealistic expectations. Take and enjoy Bartlett for who he is, which is an excellent wrestler and thoughtful kid who is wrestling up a class at a weight where those pounds really make a difference. He had his best win a Penn State singlet last night, knocking off an AA who had looked fantastic the day before, and only the night after Beau had lost to a kid in the generational talent tier.
One of the things about this coaching staff that I admire most is their ability to let each wrestler find themselves and coach that wrestler, instead of making the wrestler conform to a model. If Beau doesn't sound like Zain in an interview that's just because he's not Zain and the coaching staff is giving him the room to become the best he can be, not forcing him to be what Zain was.
I was wondering the same thing. Working out from bottom against the better wrestlers is a concern for ANY underclassman (and some upperclassmen), but I think Beau is skilled and active enough that not many will work him over from the top position. It's certainly worth his and the coaches' consideration obviously, but I'm not sure it's going to be an ongoing issue either.
Point taken, but what will lead to the best version of BB by the middle of March?
Like Casey said the other day, if the guys are aggressive and trying to score points, the coaches can then correct mistakes or improve their technique. If they are not willing to take chances, the coaches have less to work on for improvement.
I understand that size is a problem, but when you're as athletic as Bartlett sometimes just creating action can lead to scoring opportunities.
Not that I can recall.
Here's the skinny, BB is a great wrestler. I don't think Raw meant it to come off the way we all took it. BB will never be Jason Nolf. There will never be another Jason Nolf, Zain, Taylor, Ruth, Nico, etc. I personally liked watching and listening to all those guys for what they each brought to the table. Ya never knew what Nolf was going to throw at his opponent, Zain punishing people on top, Taylor's ankle pick, the Ruth cradle, Nico's flexibility and pace, Nickal's throws. If Beau goes the rest of his college career winning matches like the one last night, I'm good with it. I don't think that will be the case, but in either event, you can't tell me that match wasn't exciting. Not a lot of scoring, but there was action. With all due respect to Verk, Beau is not him. Beau has a good array of attacks. But for reasons previously mentioned by other posters, we aren't getting to see them, and probably won't see them this year. Good things take time, Rome wasn't built in a day, have patience. Pick your quote, they all apply. This years Beau is not what I believe next years Beau is going to be. Enjoy what he's bringing to the table this year. Remember, he scored 0 points last year for us at the tournament. I'll take the over.
Should have just named them all Ed.I blame my cognitive mistakes on a recent bout with Lyme disease (no kidding), but my father (who had 7 sons) always called us by the wrong names and I admit that I often call my sons each other's name and I only have 2.
Yes, I'm always concerned when our young wrestlers are on bottom especially one that is undersized. Maybe I'm misremembering, but I thought a few guys put nice rides on Beau but fortunately for him hes not bad on top so ride time hasn't become a big issue for him. So, until he opens up his offense and isnt wrestling as many close bouts, I'll still be a bit nervous when he's on bottom.
I thought he got out well against Parco
Freshman Zain didn't shoot nearly as much as the monster everyone remembers.
Plus his last college loss was because he took a bad shot against Port in SV.
Bartlett's comparables are RBY and Berge -- short offense/counter wrestlers. He's on track. People seriously need to chill.
I completely agree. Do you, or anyone have the Beau interview everyone is talking about. I have not seen it.
It should at the end of the Byers' call for last night's dual on gopsusports.com.
I am reading too many: "I don't want to say anything negative about Beau"...but.......I will anyway posts. I don't want to say anything negative about these posters....but........@#$& a $%@# you %$&$#@#$$@# #$%@#&%#@........
I feel better now
I feel better now
Why you gotta be comin' at us like dat?I am reading too many: "I don't want to say anything negative about Beau"...but.......I will anyway posts. I don't want to say anything negative about these posters....but........@#$& a $%@# you %$&$#@#$$@# #$%@#&%#@........
I feel better now
The last part is what stands out to me. I think everyone saw the high recruiting rankings and accolades and assumed he was this dynamo from neutral in HS and that just wasn’t the case. Not that he has no offense, but just that it was a lot of basics and a pretty good top game that won him a ton of matches. He’s just never gonna be the guy to rack up points in bunches in his feet unless he’s going feet to back.
Don't know about that... wrestling up changes a lot. BB is very technically sound and because of that he is going to be special (when combined with his other traits)
Yeah, I probably could’ve worded that better. He can score, I don’t think he’s ever going to be Jason Nolf or David Taylor on his feet.
yeah, all you need to do is watch some of his matches at Jr. Worlds just a few months ago. When sized well, Beau can horse guys around and get to his attacks pretty well.
yea, and who is... He certainly has pretty shots when he takes them!
I think we need to be careful with our expectations for freshman. Nolf, Nickal, Taylor, Ruth, Joseph, etc. all redshirted. BB had a year where he couldn’t even practice for much of it and now has about as many matches as someone would have had on their redshirt season. He just beat #5 for crying out loud! Even Zain during his true freshman season was beating ranked guys 2-0 and 4-2.
I’m chilling.
Merry Christmas
$&@& $&@I am reading too many: "I don't want to say anything negative about Beau"...but.......I will anyway posts. I don't want to say anything negative about these posters....but........@#$& a $%@# you %$&$#@#$$@# #$%@#&%#@........
I feel better now
Merry Christmas
Loved Beau’s interview with JB. He said he wasn’t overly excited after knocking off #5 Parco because he was confident going in that he could beat him. He’s really feeling the energy around the team and the way they are bonding. Great interview!!
I call my son the wrong name and I only have one.I blame my cognitive mistakes on a recent bout with Lyme disease (no kidding), but my father (who had 7 sons) always called us by the wrong names and I admit that I often call my sons each other's name and I only have 2.
Growing up until about the age of 10 I thought my name was “Jesus Christ” and my brother was “Goddamit”. The only Bill Cosby spoof.
Other than his match vs Yianni (where he was expected to be overmatched), the only match Beau lost this year was when he uncharacteristically got sloppy twice. Giving up an end of period reversal and then just holding position on the escape thinking Rivera would give him the 1 was not Bartlett like. The Bryant loss doesn't look remotely bad right now either.
Every opponent Beau has wrestled this year besides the Sacred Heart kid has been a NQ level guy (with Parco being an AA level guy and obviously Yianni is Yianni) and Beau has been winning, showing high IQ and a strong gas tank. Kid is pretty battle tested already.
Every opponent Beau has wrestled this year besides the Sacred Heart kid has been a NQ level guy (with Parco being an AA level guy and obviously Yianni is Yianni) and Beau has been winning, showing high IQ and a strong gas tank. Kid is pretty battle tested already.
agreed. Beau has probably had the overall toughest schedule of any of the PS wrestlers so far and has done well. Impressive showing so far.
Agreed. I don't understand the criticism of BB.
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