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2021 National Duals Results & Discussion
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after sleeping on this i wonder how much spencer is a victim of his own dominance in terms of our perception of him. i didn’t even realize it but that second kid is ranked 11th in the country and spencer slept walked his way to a shutout major. kid had really flexible shoulders and narrowly avoided some turns but that’s about it.
for who else would this be considered a down performance? maybe vito was flashier against teske, but spencer was just as dominant even though he didn’t “look right.”
Care to explain your reasoning? That Dual could be hanging in the balance at heavyweight and, if healthy, I’m sure Kerk would like an opportunity to avenge his loss at NCAAs.
We in PA have seen a ton of Jaret Lane over the years. Very good on the mat but not Glory or Suriano there. Zero turns by Lee is attention-grabbing.
Fair or not, Lane is not the bar for Lee -- it's Suriano, Glory, Arujau, and nobody else.
PS, "flexible shoulders" -- why didn't Micah Jordan ever think of that?
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I have noticed thru my years watching PSU we don't shake the other coaches hand. But a couple still will.
I'm thinking it came from their high school coaches. If he made wrestlers shake hands they continue. My coaches in high school we didn't shake but other teams did. I'd assume any PSU wrestler gets to decide if they want but other teams have a rule.
I'm thinking it came from their high school coaches. If he made wrestlers shake hands they continue. My coaches in high school we didn't shake but other teams did. I'd assume any PSU wrestler gets to decide if they want but other teams have a rule.
I hate to bring up the topic of Jarod Verkleeren, but BB's offensive style reminds me of this comparison. I am hoping to be wrong as he develops more and more.
As a general rule, maybe--but I think RBY and maybe Nick will have their hands full tonight. McGee beat Myers (RBY's tough Semi last year) last night. Vasquez is more of a question mark, but he's a top recruit. We're going to give up big bonus at 125 & 157 I'm afraid. Carter and AB are gonna have to try and get it back.
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I’m expecting wins at 133, 141, 174, 184, 197, and 285.... the other 4 must keep it close and no bonus pts. So maybe 20-12 Nits.
I’m leaning that way, but hope not as this is big for seeding (I.e. avoiding GS until as late as possible)
well he’s not turning suriano. he never has. did you watch the match btw? he had lane 90% turned repeatedly in the first. lane was able to stay propped up high enough on his elbow to avoid a count. spencer needed a little more forward pressure on his turn instead of straight to the side. pretty simple technical adjustment that i put up to a little rust. everything else he did looked easy.
was it his best? no. but he was better than i have him credit for yesterday.
Because he’s a Cornell fan, and we finally just earned some bragging rights in h2h competitio?
What Iowa fans fail to acknowledge is that 125 was a desert wasteland last season. It's not this year. Doesn't mean Spencer won't win it all, but it won't be the walk in the park that many Hawks fans imagine.
Vasquez looks really good early, but he faded badly both matches. He is slick and has good technique, so maybe he can get an early TD on Lee. Even if he does though Lee will win comfortably as his pace will make it an ugly 3rd period for Vasquez.
I don't know about all that. I'm just doubting a message board warrior knows what Spencer needed to do there to turn the guy while once in a generation talent like Spencer couldn't remember or figure it out. Rust? The kid is all world, is practicing every day... rust is why he couldn't get the turn there? Not buying it. Just think his opponent was good enough to stop him..nothing more, nothing less.
Where to draw the line?
Line up teams at the edge pre-match, intro them and they shake hands.
When they take the mat, they shake hands again.
Match is over, shake hands.
*Now run to the opposing bench and shake a few more.
Dual is over, line-up and shake all the hands.
Any other contact sport shake hands so much in 2 hours?
If we can eliminate one of them, see *.
With that said, I think in tourneys it's probably good to shake with the other corner. Seems more common.
I agree, Lee looked totally fine and dominated that match. He won by major, had a good 4-5 turns that were so close to back points, plus was fresh in the 3rd. Plus a couple more bars that were called off for PD, the whole match was him punishing Lane on top. In the rare moments where it was on the feet, Spencer scored quickly and easily. Lane did a heck of a job to fight off the back points but after watching that I wouldn't be concerned if I'm a Spencer Lee fan.
And not shaking the opposing coaches hand is a sign of disrespect? The vast majority of Penn State guys give a respectable post match handshake to their opponents. That's better than most, and meets the expected standard. A lot of coaches don't seem real interested in a post match handshake.
I heard he made the trip but has been hanging out at Del Boca Vista.
If Schultz or Kerk sit tonight it should be punished in March for the duck that it would be.
is terry brands yelling “more forward” out to him on the mat good enough for you?
Yeah--you're absolutely right there--just looked at his results. If Negron goes, bonus may be tough. Joe might find a way to make it happen though (I hope not, I like Joe).
I know they are likely recovering from or maybe even in the middle of a hard training cycle, but most of our guys have VERY good motors. Nick, Roman, Carter, AB, and especially Dean. Hell, BB looks great compared to most of his opponents, too.
As we've learned watching DT in recent years, you can straight up melt people if you keep the pressure up. Guys like Valencia and Vasquez, with suspect gas tanks, might be opportunities to either not lose by much or win by a lot, respectively, if the effort is there.
As we've learned watching DT in recent years, you can straight up melt people if you keep the pressure up. Guys like Valencia and Vasquez, with suspect gas tanks, might be opportunities to either not lose by much or win by a lot, respectively, if the effort is there.
For now, Shultz has to be favored at 285 based on last year's results. He's a chunk but he's good. I think it's a huge match for Kerk to be able to show the difference from last year to this year. This will be Greg's first big test and I look forward to seeing it. Gotta use that quickness!
If any of the four returning NCs are up 5 with 1:30+ of riding time going into the 3rd, and they aren't playing catch and release, I'm going to have a meltdown.
hildebrandt obv a no brained but if i’m cael, facundo needs a big scuffle to convince me to pull him. 165 is deep so unless he’s ready to possible r12 opponents like kharchla, marinelli, wittlake, wentzel, valencia, etc… he’s not likely to score many points anyway.
I heard he was thinking of running for President of the condo board and gives everyone wizard tip calculators!
Why would they wrestle in these duals if they didn't want to wrestle good competition. Makes less than zero sense. The only way he doesn't wrestle is if he is sick or dinged up. Should Brooks have sat against Northern Iowa? Should Bartlett have sat against Cornell?
I agree with you. Especially with a guy like RBY who is known for his offense, not his top work. I will never second guess Cael, he seems to let the wrestlers figure out how the flow of the match is going and where/what they want to work. But, I think a guy like RBY should go takedown and a 15ish second ride, release, repeat. After 5 takedowns, not only are you up by 5, but your riding time is over a minute as well. I think with Nick Lee's motor, he would be a good one to follow this as well. Although Nick is known to get some back points.
I was speaking with a past team mate of mine last night about this. When we wrestled, we secured the bonus points we thought we needed/thought we could at least get, and then went to work for a pin. I found it odd last night that our guys didn't seem to have that sense of urgency to get that next bonus point. I'm not bad mouthing them, or knocking them, the majority of the team put together 2 excellent matches back to back.
Looking forward to tonights dual, should be a great back and forth
I may have replied to the wrong post. Was referencing the discussion of Kerk sitting tonite.
I find in match hand shaking a waste of time. We shake hands at the end of the night. That said I have no problem with people doing it or not doing it. As some form of lack of respect I think your picking a fight for the sake of stretching your fingers on the keyboard.
I mean we aren't communists or Hawkeyes
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