Giraffe vs Hippo, wick gets another cradle on chance for the fall.
Maybe Aaron wore him out for Bo.Kerk TD off a scramble at about 10 seconds. .. Zahid had just enough gas to hold on
Lost to Pat Smith on the front side.Maybe I missed something, but how is Manville doing in Greco?
it was a close bout: 2 to 1 I believe.Lost to Pat Smith on the front side.
Why, he didn't make weight and was DQ. Time people start taking personalI see on Twitter news that Cox is appealing. I hope he wins.
I'm sure you have all the information and know everything about the situation.Why, he didn't make weight and was DQ. Time people start taking personal
Was he there on time?I'm sure you have all the information and know everything about the situation.
I do not know. That's why I am not making any assumptions or sharing my opinion. I do not have the facts. And the last thing any sane person relies on is Twitter, Facebook, Message Board posters etc. Let the facts come out.Was he there on time?
black eye for OhioRTC
Yeah, my bad, I was thinking about the credit that Tom Ryan would claim if he made the team.Not really. He has been training at USOTC in Colorado Springs (listed as such in tandem with TMWC).
What are you looking for as a reliable source? I mean, it was directly from USA Wrestling, right?I do not know. That's why I am not making any assumptions or sharing my opinion. I do not have the facts. And the last thing any sane person relies on is Twitter, Facebook, Message Board posters etc. Let the facts come out.
Edited to add Message Board posters to the the "not reliable" list.
That seems like the ultimate source. The other rumblings may be mindless social media patter.What are you looking for as a reliable source? I mean, it was directly from USA Wrestling, right?
A couple of the announcers on the mats referred to some sort of pending appeal. I don’t see how they can do it after re-drawing the bracket, but if he was simply a minute or two late, I’m on the side of giving the guy a break.That seems like the ultimate source. The other rumblings may be mindless social media patter.
I do not know. That's why I am not making any assumptions or sharing my opinion. I do not have the facts. And the last thing any sane person relies on is Twitter, Facebook, Message Board posters etc. Let the facts come out.
Edited to add Message Board posters to the the "not reliable" list.
Nick, CStar, Cenzo and Brooks should have matches.Are all of the NLWC guys done until this evening or do we have consultation matches left for guys this afternoon?
I think a lot of people are assuming "missed weight" means he was overweight, but per numerous sources he was simply late, and there are competing arguments as to how late he was. Not appearing on time for weigh-ins would amount to "missing weight" however.What are you looking for as a reliable source? I mean, it was directly from USA Wrestling, right?
And that source is pretty explicit. It says: "missed weight", not that he failed to show up on time. Now, I'm not saying that there wording was precise -- but it seems to be so. That's really too bad for him; but it's also on him.That seems like the ultimate source. The other rumblings may be mindless social media patter.
I think “missed weight” explicitly means what I intuitively assume it means. Case closed!And that source is pretty explicit. It says: "missed weight", not that he failed to show up on time. Now, I'm not saying that there wording was precise -- but it seems to be so. That's really too bad for him; but it's also on him.
I feel bad for JDC too, but should every athlete be given extra time to make weight? Things have to move on time to allow for redrawing brackets if something in fact happens at weigh ins. The matches should start on time as guys are managing their post weight in food/fluid intake etc.I am not an expert on the rules relating to weigh-ins. However, I have seen arguments that the weigh-in deadline is necessary for tournament administration purposes. If the sole reason for the deadline is for administration purposes, the rules should be loosely enforced. These athletes have been training for this tournament for an awful long time and it is a lifelong dream that comes along every 4 years. The dream should not be shattered to simplify administration.
If there is a true and distinct competitive advantage, then I would think differently. However, I do not believe the deadline protects against a competitive advantage as long as the person made weight at some point on match day prior to the match.
I just feel awful for Cox.
ExactlyWe will all be interested in learning what actually happened.
4 browser windows working ok for me.I hate that we can't quad-view mats.
Gable tech in first period. Not even close.I blinked and missed Steveson Hall
Gable tech in first period. Not even close.
No. Not every athlete should be given extra time. However, there should be a deadline with significant subjectivity built in to the rule to determine whether there has been a significant abuse of the deadline that justifies disqualification. I do not believe disqualification should be enforced on a black and white determination of whether the deadline is missed. Only significant abuse should justify disqualification.I feel bad for JDC too, but should every athlete be given extra time to make weight? Things have to move on time to allow for redrawing brackets if something in fact happens at weigh ins. The matches should start on time as guys are managing their post weight in food/fluid intake etc.
We will all be interested in learning what actually happened.