2021 World Championships
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Exactly. This isn’t even their B team. Some of the wrestlers might be their number 2 at couple weights but some of these Japanese girls might not even be the three for Japan at their weight. It’s crazy.
Adeline Gray said before the tournament that they can’t beat the Japanese second team but MIGHT be able to beat their number threes. This just proves to me that we can’t beat their threes and might be able to beat their fours.
If you look at the future we should continue to dominate the top two Olympic weights and most likely the top three WC weights. With Elor, Blades and Welker. It’s a shame those three will never make an Olympic team in the same year.
If TMS and Gray hang around til the next Olympics then it’ll be tough for any of the young ones to make the team.
TMS is interested in the WWE tho so maybe she won’t be around for the next Olympics. The WWE is also extremely interested in her as well.
We have nothing for their lighter weights tho. No threat at those weights at all. None. Zip. Zero
christ sry so long.
True. I think Chael had a good point when he said we need to take our third and fourth best guys in FS and have them wrestle Greco. S
He talked about how at the Olympic training center that some of the freestyle guys would jump in sometimes and wrestle the Greco guys in greco and just destroy them lol.
Here's today's Greco summary; 2 wins, 4 losses.
https://www.teamusa.org/USA-Wrestling/Features/2021/October/07/GR-session-One
https://www.teamusa.org/USA-Wrestling/Features/2021/October/07/GR-session-One
That's a good point, just think how good Bo N was at going upper body with guys and his counter defense would be just as lethal to score points.
While that might give us a slightly more competitive GR team I don't think it's a long term solution. Is the #3-4 FS guy who thinks he's on track to be the #1 FS in the next cycle going to want to spend development time on GR? Are the guys focusing on GR see no future if a FS guy gets to step in?
Until/unless we have more GR interest and competition at all levels, we're not likely to get any more than a few medals here and there.
Do the freestyle tournament 6 weeks ahead of the Greco tournament, so our guys that don't place 1st could give Greco a shot.
With how seldom we see senior level guys even trying (let alone succeeding) to do both, I don't think the transition between the two is as easy as some here are portraying.
Yeah--people specialize in Greco for a reason--there may be some exceptions (I bet Dake would be a force, Coon), but for the most part, I don't necessarily agree that a FS focused guy is automatically going to be better at greco than someone who practices it exclusively. As least when you are talking about the best in the world.
I 100% don't believe Chael, he says a lot of things that aren't true. Every time a high level FS guy (Dennis, Graff) enters a Greco tournament they get smashed. I'm not saying with the right training they couldn't compete for spots but FS guys can't just walk into a Greco room and destroy them at it. It's a completely different sport that requires a ton of training and technique.
Helen down 1-0 at the break on passivity call. Anshu pretty good with heavy hands and snap downs.
Helen with a takedown and armbars Anshu over for the fall!
Anshu injured and still down on the mat.
Helen with a takedown and armbars Anshu over for the fall!
Anshu injured and still down on the mat.
Flo crapping the bed at the worst possible moment must mean everything is as it was, is, and always will be.
I know falls need to be confirmed by the panel too--but sometimes it's just weird that the UWW rules say "touch fall" or whatever that equivalent is, and yet it typically takes 5-10sec before they'll actually call it.
Congrats to Helen!
Congrats to Helen!
It pretty well accepted that it usually takes an Olympic cycle or so for guys to transition from folkstyle to freestyle. So, yeah, I don't think many freestyle guys would be able to quickly transition and compete well internationally at greco. Perhaps a better strategy is to install folkstyle wrestling academies around the world. After a few decades, perhaps folkstyle will develop into an internationally-recognized style and overtake greco in popularity. 
Nelson up now. Nelson with 1 pt stepout point.
Nelson with takedown up 3-0
Rough action, Nelson in pain and on injury time 2:26 left
Maya down in par terre, no score
Nelson gives up 2 TDs down 4-3 1:16 left
Nelson in on the leg at the end but can't convert. Left shoulder definitely limited her in the second.
Nelson with takedown up 3-0
Rough action, Nelson in pain and on injury time 2:26 left
Maya down in par terre, no score
Nelson gives up 2 TDs down 4-3 1:16 left
Nelson in on the leg at the end but can't convert. Left shoulder definitely limited her in the second.
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They did manage to send me an email to watch Maroulis live. LOL
TMS up now TMS with a TD after giving up 1, up 2-1.
TMS TD up 4-1, end of 1st
TMS TD 6-1, TD 8-1 TD 10-1
That's it, Bronze for TMS
TMS TD up 4-1, end of 1st
TMS TD 6-1, TD 8-1 TD 10-1
That's it, Bronze for TMS
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Sorry Nova, just saw this--I don't think it's a streaming service--TV only, though I was watching w/ my Youtube TV subscription.
Yeah, I found it eventually but missed Maroulis match. Hopefully Flo has it on replay. I should have realized it was actually a TV channel since back in August I watched it a lot.
Watched it on Flo's replays. It's 1:22 long and skips time. In fact, the first two and a half minutes of the bout isn't there.
