They didn’t show her live. They showed her reaction after the match was over.
Wrestling 2023 NCAA Tournament Live Thread
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LOL. Both guys are going to be yuge in the finals. AOC is 185 in the preseason.
It’s going to be weird watching tonight without lots of footage of the amines.
Shouldn't the Lee's have expected the camera to be on them whether Spencer won or lost? I mean they seemed to have fully embraced being in the spotlight every time a damn Iowa match was broadcast on TV. Think they cared some other kids parents had to watch them celebrate Spencer destroying their son? At first I thought it was a shitty move on espns part. Now that I slept on it, I'm ok with it. Had she acted rational no one would even remember they put heron camera.
Spencer just inked an NIL deal with LensCrafters. Buy one pair, get two free.
Hundreds of parental reactions over the years. First one like a pouty baby.
They seemed really ok with the cameras for 5 years. Probably ok with last night. Everyone else playing victim for them.
One thing that hasn't changed is that the Media does love drama, good and bad.
Dirty laundry
Anyone else think PSUPaul might get rear naked choked before the weekend is out?
He seems to be developing a reputation.
He seems to be developing a reputation.
If I was tech savvy id get a picture of him off of Facebook and create a meme with the black sunglasses and thug life caption... lol
Saw Vito over at VT earlier this season. He looked pretty pedestrian. Maybe he was a bit off, but, no way is he as quick as McGee. He holds position well and can attack left & right …..but, tends to rely on a very good counter. If RBY exercises a modicum of caution, he should win by 2-3. If RBY gets an early takedown he might roll big as it’s his last rodeo.
Why I've always favored wearing contact lenses....
Sat down at table at Buffalo Wild Wings, we are probably 5-6 miles from arena, a lady (30s/40s??) and a grandmotherly lady sit down next to us. Younger gal wearing Penn State beanie. I strike up a conversation: “you ladies went to wrestling tonight?” Grandma: “oh yes, what fun!” Her husband joins us Penn State hat on: “you guys Penn State fans?” Grandma says “I’m Carter’s grandmother. His dad will be right in.”
Let me tell you, these mfs were as Salt of the earth as it gets. His dad would fit right in here, which is probably why he isn’t here. Some fun stuff:
First thing he said is it is unbelievable how many different people involved with the program make it work and how much he is saying “thank you.”
TnT never called. They were not dynamite.
OSU visit was Ryan giving a hell of a tour of the under-construction Covelli center. Not a whole lot of asking what Carter was looking for.
First time they met Cael, Cael asked Carter how long Carter has been a PSU wrestling fan. Carter said he really wasn’t. Cael asked him who he did like, Carter said he kind of liked OSU football.
Foca hit a pederson roll on Carter at the end of the match when they were 9 and Carter was saved by the bell. Carter learned to ride Foca after that.
Stories of Casey riding guys for an hour at a time are very true. Carter called and told his dad it happened to him and how he was real pissed off about it. Then a few weeks later Carter’s dad heard the podcast where Ed Ruth told the same story.
Carter did an interview, I think with Flo, and mentioned his dad getting hot in the stands at IOWA. Carter gave PG, his dad gave R. LMFAO.
Grandma and Grandpap are over the moon. First time going to NCAA. Grandma asked for my phone number. Said if there are seats available tonight she will let me know and I can sit with them front row.
Let me tell you, these mfs were as Salt of the earth as it gets. His dad would fit right in here, which is probably why he isn’t here. Some fun stuff:
First thing he said is it is unbelievable how many different people involved with the program make it work and how much he is saying “thank you.”
TnT never called. They were not dynamite.
OSU visit was Ryan giving a hell of a tour of the under-construction Covelli center. Not a whole lot of asking what Carter was looking for.
First time they met Cael, Cael asked Carter how long Carter has been a PSU wrestling fan. Carter said he really wasn’t. Cael asked him who he did like, Carter said he kind of liked OSU football.
Foca hit a pederson roll on Carter at the end of the match when they were 9 and Carter was saved by the bell. Carter learned to ride Foca after that.
Stories of Casey riding guys for an hour at a time are very true. Carter called and told his dad it happened to him and how he was real pissed off about it. Then a few weeks later Carter’s dad heard the podcast where Ed Ruth told the same story.
Carter did an interview, I think with Flo, and mentioned his dad getting hot in the stands at IOWA. Carter gave PG, his dad gave R. LMFAO.
Grandma and Grandpap are over the moon. First time going to NCAA. Grandma asked for my phone number. Said if there are seats available tonight she will let me know and I can sit with them front row.
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Anyway… this morning, we have:
6 Bartlett vs 11 Carlson in the consolation semifinal, a rematch of their R2 match won by Beau 3-2. The other consolation semifinal is 10 McNeil vs 4 Hardy.
12 Van Ness vs 4 Henson, who Rooks beat in R2. Henson has won four consolation matches since the loss to Rooks. The other consolation semifinal is 8 Murin vs 3 Parco.
And in the 7th place medal match at 197, it’s 9 Dean vs 11 Kane. Kane lost in R1 to 22 Hawks, then won four straight consolation matches before losing to Romero.
6 Bartlett vs 11 Carlson in the consolation semifinal, a rematch of their R2 match won by Beau 3-2. The other consolation semifinal is 10 McNeil vs 4 Hardy.
12 Van Ness vs 4 Henson, who Rooks beat in R2. Henson has won four consolation matches since the loss to Rooks. The other consolation semifinal is 8 Murin vs 3 Parco.
And in the 7th place medal match at 197, it’s 9 Dean vs 11 Kane. Kane lost in R1 to 22 Hawks, then won four straight consolation matches before losing to Romero.
Yeah - unfortunately for her …. it’s going to be a meme that gives over and over.
Yeah - I’ll miss my wife’s usual rant about the first family of wrestling.
My wife said the exact same this morning. And noted how it will most likely traumatize Spencer for the rest of his life after seeing it. Imagine a parent being *that disappointed* in you just because you lost a wrestling match.
I was driving at the time and didn't get to see it until much later. (BTW, Byers' voice cracked just like when Cenzo pinned Martinez.)
First clip I saw didn't show the actual throw. From their position on the mat, it looked like Ramos chin-whipped Lee.
(That would've been hilarious -- GOAT pinned with an elementary school move.)
Lee's training at Iowa should be questioned. Specifically: he hasn't competed in freestyle in at least 4 years, if at all since HS -- and got beaten with a freestyle move. Contrast with Nick Lee getting head pinched and thrown to his back the same way by Goofer McKee, fought thru it and got the takedown.
We met Ramos’ mom at Big Tens, along with other family members. She was very nice, so I am very happy for family.
Wanted his last match in Iowa singlet to be memorable.
Don’t you remember Cenzos mom ripping up her hat when he lost to Mekhi?
Yeah, me neither.
Yeah, me neither.
This conversation overall is nothing short of silly. It’s almost as if no parent, wife or family of a losing team or individual has ever been shown live. Or players crying with their head in their hands. TV’s catch this all the time. All the time. It would have been special treatment to have ignored her at the moment of defeat.
Dare I say it? We should all move on. There’s nothing to see here.
🤦🏻♂️
that woman strong bending those glasses like superman bends steel!
Yeah. And poor mr kerkvliet. Oh. Never mind
(But for the record they showed mr Monday whose reaction was sort of just, “damn”).
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Brands never called Carter or Aaron.
Just amazing. This wasn't rocket science. Plus Carter took a long time to finally commit.
Note the date of Willie's tweets:
yes my friend followed Carter at Prep and had heard he was leaning to the buckeyes sure glad he didnt go there!
Adding on to the Carter stories:
I can remember seeing Carter at various tournaments way back when he was 7/8 with a big head of hair and even back then he was one of those kid you could look at and see the potential oozing from every pore.
My younger brother wrestled Carter’s older brother Chris back in HS. Carter would’ve been in elementary/middle school back then.
My coworkers sister in law works and is pretty good friends with Carter’s mom Starla. The sister in law’s son wrestles for my old HS team and Carter will work with him at various times during the offseason.
A few weeks back, I was coaching at our PJW tournament and struck up a conversation with Carter’s longtime youth coach Skip Chatt. Skip has coached many, many good kids over the years so the guy has more stories than you can count. He talked about how way back when Carter first started, Carter’s dad brought him to Skip and asked him to coach Carter. Skip said if Carter wasn’t a state champ in three years, he might as well fire him because he didn’t do his job. It sounds ambitious, but he knew Carter had that much potential. Sure enough, Carter won his first PJW state title in 2010 and Skip wasn’t out of a job haha. He also went on to tell me about how one night Conner Pierce was sleeping and he felt like someone was watching him so he cracked his eyes open. There was Carter, standing at the side of his bed staring at him. Carter said, “Get up. We’re going to workout.” It was like 3AM! Conner obliged, they went down and got a solid workout in until somewhere around 530 and Carter told Conner now he could go back to bed.
I can remember seeing Carter at various tournaments way back when he was 7/8 with a big head of hair and even back then he was one of those kid you could look at and see the potential oozing from every pore.
My younger brother wrestled Carter’s older brother Chris back in HS. Carter would’ve been in elementary/middle school back then.
My coworkers sister in law works and is pretty good friends with Carter’s mom Starla. The sister in law’s son wrestles for my old HS team and Carter will work with him at various times during the offseason.
A few weeks back, I was coaching at our PJW tournament and struck up a conversation with Carter’s longtime youth coach Skip Chatt. Skip has coached many, many good kids over the years so the guy has more stories than you can count. He talked about how way back when Carter first started, Carter’s dad brought him to Skip and asked him to coach Carter. Skip said if Carter wasn’t a state champ in three years, he might as well fire him because he didn’t do his job. It sounds ambitious, but he knew Carter had that much potential. Sure enough, Carter won his first PJW state title in 2010 and Skip wasn’t out of a job haha. He also went on to tell me about how one night Conner Pierce was sleeping and he felt like someone was watching him so he cracked his eyes open. There was Carter, standing at the side of his bed staring at him. Carter said, “Get up. We’re going to workout.” It was like 3AM! Conner obliged, they went down and got a solid workout in until somewhere around 530 and Carter told Conner now he could go back to bed.
Rumors that he tore an ACL.
I tend to agree with Cowbell that is time to move on with regards to Lee's mother. I really couldn't care less. That said, his pulling a medical forfeit and refusing to wrestle the rest of the way is the worst kind of cry baby bull crap. Admittedly, I suppose he really could be hurt, but I think the only things that are hurt are his fragile emotions.
I’m reluctant to say this because Spencer Lee is 1000 x better than my best day… but did he become too one dimensional… ending so many bouts w tilt to tech fall…
The humanity in me wants to be more empathetic since I've never lost or known anyone who's lost at NCAA's. But I've also never been attached to someone winning the whole thing 3 times. Mrs. Lee's reaction felt a bit performative. And I don't know whether its because she knew the spotlight was on her or because it happened to capture her.
My wife was concerned yesterday. She came into my den and asked, "Are you alright? Did somebody from Penn State lose?"
I said, '"No, I was just calling the pin. He was pinned!" I suppose maybe I was screaming "He's pinned!"
Guess who.
I said, '"No, I was just calling the pin. He was pinned!" I suppose maybe I was screaming "He's pinned!"
Guess who.
Yeah, they probably didn’t even seek out the Ramos’s because they thought the match was a foregone conclusion.
ok men Spencer is a Pa kid and I certainly wanted him to win his 4th I really like him but he lost its over so quit your whining iowa only mistake he made was not going to PSU!!
Wrestling moms are nuts. Everybody knows that 😂
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