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2024 Big Ten Tournament match, PBP, and discussion thread

In that case why the hell wasn't Barraclaugh out there. Hell no I'm not leaving it alone: You can't have it both ways. Either he can't go and this was blown by WHOEVER, or he can go and they said no, and now he's in State College.
Or he shouldn’t go so he CAN go for NCAAs. If he was not anticipated to be wrestling NCAAs, I’m sure BearClaw would have wrestled if they knew that Carter was definitely out for NCAAs
 
Brooks is absolutely amazing. Even with a 4th championship, it's tough to call him better than these guys:
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Maybe not “better”, but he’s earned the right to be in the conversation. We are truly spoiled!
 
It’s gonna happen: when the offspring of the elementary kids watching Messenbrink graduate, maybe.
We can joke, but just like MM grew up in Wisconsin dreaming of wearing that blue singlet with the white band around the waist, there were hundreds if not thousands of little kids who watched Mitch go crazy today and thought I want to be that guy on that team…
 
In that case why the hell wasn't Barraclaugh out there. Hell no I'm not leaving it alone: You can't have it both ways. Either he can't go and this was blown by WHOEVER, or he can go and they said no, and now he's in State College.
Bearclaw wasn't out there because if Carter didn't forfeit he wouldn't have been eligible for Nationals. The fact that Bearclaw didn't wrestle is proof they're planning of having Carter go at the big dance. They did the same thing with Nolf a few years back.
 
Or he shouldn’t go so he CAN go for NCAAs. If he was not anticipated to be wrestling NCAAs, I’m sure BearClaw would have wrestled if they knew that Carter was definitely out for NCAAs
No way. It's clearly an elaborate conspiracy created by Cael to hurt both Carter and Terrell, weaken team leadership and crush team morale.

Sarcasm.
 
Bearclaw wasn't out there because if Carter didn't forfeit he wouldn't have been eligible for Nationals. The fact that Bearclaw didn't wrestle is proof they're planning of having Carter go at the big dance. They did the same thing with Nolf a few years back.
Didn’t Nolf wrestle a couple of matches though?
 
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If Carter REALLY wanted to wrestle, how could Cael have stopped him? He weighed in and was on the mat in his singlet and headgear. HE could've defied Cael and just wrestled and there would've been nothing Cael could do.
I thought about that, I'm kind of surprised he didn't.

That being said, if he decided to quit and not go for a fourth title because he's mad it will be a very sad ending to his career. Nobody just quits this far into the season when they're the favorite to win a title.
 
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Carter had his nation-leading 64 match win streak ended, a chance to become a 4x B1G Champion and Hodge Winner ended... and potentially fully cleared to wrestle by his private physician.... and apparently led to believe by PSU that the decision would be his and he would be allowed to wrestle (apparently several hundred people from Erie, including his family, made trip to College Park to watch him wrestle.... and they were treated to watching him forfeit.). But some of you a-holes say he has nothing to be pissed about. Don't necessarily think it was Cael, but my Alma Mater's Athletic Department and shit-show Administration has done it yet again.
If one of our players is willing to enter the ring and represent our proud university he should damn well get to do just that. This has the myopic fingerprints of the PSU administration all over it.
 
I thought about that, I'm kind of surprised he didn't.

That being said, if he decided to quit and not go for a fourth title because he's mad it will be a very sad ending to his career. Nobody just quits this far into the season when they're the favorite to win a title.
Especially after that tweet a few weeks ago about over coming obstacles. This whole thing makes no sense
 
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Nolf did wrestle a couple matches but they still had him forfeit out for 6th place.
 
If one of our players is willing to enter the ring and represent our proud university he should damn well get to do just that. This has the myopic fingerprints of the PSU administration all over it.
You think somebody from outside the wrestling program called Cael and told him he couldn't let Carter wrestle? If that's the case where do you think Cael will be coaching next year? I'm thinking he ends up at Pitt.
 
If Carter REALLY wanted to wrestle, how could Cael have stopped him? He weighed in and was on the mat in his singlet and headgear. HE could've defied Cael and just wrestled and there would've been nothing Cael could do.
I'm sure Cael spoke with the officials as well as the opposing staff ahead of time.

Plus, do you really think Cael would let that slide? I don't. Even if Cael had to walk onto the mat to get the match stopped.
 
It's been said before, but 149 is probably Kasak's best weight. Which is fortunate when SVN went down, but not so much longer term.

What are the chances Kasak gets down to 141 and challenges Bartlett next season?
Kasak won't be going down to 141. If Beau leaves and Kaysak doesn't redshirt, SVN might be sucking on ice cubes. SVN is not tall and wrestled 132 at Blair.
 
He did, but his injury occurred on Jan. 29, 2018. Big Tens started on March 3, 2018. He had an almost five weeks to to rehab his injury.
If I remember correctly they made a rule for that year after the Suriano situation because they had to re seed the entire 125 bracket when they became aware that he wouldn’t be wrestling.
 
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Just got home. Left after 165 :(. My son was a champ; he’s not a wrestler and still watched almost every match, wrestlebacks, 9th place mini-tournaments, non-PSU guys, etc. But he has school tomorrow and staying thru 285 wasn’t going to work.

Shout out to @Hey_Blue (seats next to mine), @86PSUPaul ,@hlstone @creamery freak, @RoarLions1 and everyone else. Nice meeting and seeing you all.
 
You think somebody from outside the wrestling program called Cael and told him he couldn't let Carter wrestle? If that's the case where do you think Cael will be coaching next year? I'm thinking he ends up at Pitt.
Some people have lost their damn minds over this. There's some Area 51 level stuff floating around here. Thankfully we haven't hit GIA level conspiracies yet.
 
Carter had his nation-leading 64 match win streak ended, a chance to become a 4x B1G Champion and Hodge Winner ended... and potentially fully cleared to wrestle by his private physician.... and apparently led to believe by PSU that the decision would be his and he would be allowed to wrestle (apparently several hundred people from Erie, including his family, made trip to College Park to watch him wrestle.... and they were treated to watching him forfeit.). But some of you a-holes say he has nothing to be pissed about. Don't necessarily think it was Cael, but my Alma Mater's Athletic Department and shit-show Administration has done it yet again.
It is hard to believe that Carter, would throw all his wrestling dreams away over this situation. If he quits and leaves, then he will not get an automatic shot at trials, will not be a 4 timer. will be out of NLWC and PSU.
Where and who does he train with? Not to mention the cost of travel, health insurance ..... He still gets his NIL $$. But to burn his bridges? I do not see that. I could be wrong, but I feel he will be grateful to wrestle at Nationals.
 
Brooks was awesome but I could make an argument for Davis as tourney MVP. He won a bracket that had the #1, 2, 4, 5, 8 and 9th ranked wrestlers
 
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If I remember correctly they made a rule for that year after the Suriano situation because they had to re seed the entire 125 bracket when they became aware that he wouldn’t be wrestling.
Perhaps, but Suriano did take one 0:01 INJ DEF at B10s that year.

I'm not sure what the 2nd INJ DEF accomplishes. Has it actually affected anybody's seed?
 
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