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I thought all the wrestlers who live in dorms were in West.
West Halls is typically closed during summer session.

As a former West Halls resident: Spencer Lee could have had an in-room sauna there with no equipment installation. Steam heated (Physical Plant byproduct) year round, valves stuck open, no A/C. First month of Fall Semester was always brutal.

Unless the guys really need to cut hard in the offseason, South is better in the summer.
 
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One of my favorites as a kid growing up....around the times of Zapped & Fast Times.....they certainly don't makes movies like they used to.
Looking at Betsy Russell made one grow up faster. She was a stone cold fox and not shy of doffing her clothes (many thanks Betsy)
 
Not many admit to NCAA violations on forums, touché. It sounds dumb, and is dumb, but by the letter of the law it would be a violation. Figured I would save Vodka and compliance some time.
 
Not many admit to NCAA violations on forums, touché. It sounds dumb, and is dumb, but by the letter of the law it would be a violation. Figured I would save Vodka and compliance some time.
Actually it isn't a violation. They didn't ask for a free ride. The driver refunded it. That's out of their control. Sure they could report it, but for all we know the wrestlers didn't even know it was refunded? Who checks to make sure they get charged for a $8 Uber ride? But yes, NCAA violations are illogical, our fan base knows that better than any other!
 
As a long time married man, it was thrilling to see some female nudity again.
Here she is at age 50 (she’s now 55). Still ridiculous (and a single woman at this time)

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Actually it isn't a violation. They didn't ask for a free ride. The driver refunded it. That's out of their control. Sure they could report it, but for all we know the wrestlers didn't even know it was refunded? Who checks to make sure they get charged for a $8 Uber ride? But yes, NCAA violations are illogical, our fan base knows that better than any other!

But if it becomes a pattern it could be seen as a violation. If the same 3 call for a lift again, I recommend keeping the fare.
 
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Actually it isn't a violation. They didn't ask for a free ride. The driver refunded it. That's out of their control. Sure they could report it, but for all we know the wrestlers didn't even know it was refunded? Who checks to make sure they get charged for a $8 Uber ride? But yes, NCAA violations are illogical, our fan base knows that better than any other!

So if they each wrestler received a free car that they didn’t ask for that also wouldn’t be a violation? Obviously an extreme comparison, but hoping it makes a connection. NCAA athletes are not to receive anything for free. That means technically you can’t buy their food, or a drink, etc. It is dumb and I am sure it happens all the time, but where do you draw the line on what is ok to give them for free? Also don’t worry this wouldn’t be viewed as a major infraction unless it was discovered to be an ongoing issue. Not here to bust balls either.
 
So if they each wrestler received a free car that they didn’t ask for that also wouldn’t be a violation? Obviously an extreme comparison, but hoping it makes a connection. NCAA athletes are not to receive anything for free. That means technically you can’t buy their food, or a drink, etc. It is dumb and I am sure it happens all the time, but where do you draw the line on what is ok to give them for free? Also don’t worry this wouldn’t be viewed as a major infraction unless it was discovered to be an ongoing issue. Not here to bust balls either.
Exactly.

As an aside, many think it’s a good idea to relax rules for paying players for their signatures, etc. How would you police what the “going rate” would be. Imagine an Alabama booster paying their QB 20k for a signed football.
 
Exactly.

As an aside, many think it’s a good idea to relax rules for paying players for their signatures, etc. How would you police what the “going rate” would be. Imagine an Alabama booster paying their QB 20k for a signed football.
^^ This is precisely why PSU Athletics puts up so many safeguards for things most people don't think twice about.

When I was an alumni chapter officer, it took a lot of effort to get a Joe signed ball for our scholarship drive. PSU could not allow someone to get Joe's autograph for free, sell the ball, and give the cash to some recruit or player. Needed to pre-approve the purpose.

NCAA compliance is basically the ugly offspring of ugly government contracting business courtesy policies -- where neither party can provide any services at all, and only trinket level items (non-personalized mug or pin, etc.).

And it's every bit as ridiculous. If we all go out to lunch, we can't all pile into one car. Worse, if it's somewhere I've never been, none of them can ride in my car so I don't get lost if our cars get separated. The only time I can give a ride to any government counterpart is if we have to go to a remote section of my site where pedestrians are prohibited for safety reasons -- and then I need to pre-clear it and can't use my personal car.

Clearly sharing a ride to lunch at the Mexican buffet with a low-level staffer is gonna influence business decisions, because rules.

NCAA makes ever so slightly more sense, in that conceptually athletes shouldn't get favorable treatment over non-athletes. Though "I woulda comped a group of drunk sorority girls too!" probably isn't enough justification ...
 
Exactly.

As an aside, many think it’s a good idea to relax rules for paying players for their signatures, etc. How would you police what the “going rate” would be. Imagine an Alabama booster paying their QB 20k for a signed football.
Some of the other Alabama boosters would be pissed off wondering why the guy who gave 20 thou got off so cheap.
 
Exactly.

As an aside, many think it’s a good idea to relax rules for paying players for their signatures, etc. How would you police what the “going rate” would be. Imagine an Alabama booster paying their QB 20k for a signed football.
If the players were allowed to sell their autograph you would not have to police it.
I get your point, but holy cow the rules as is deprive 1000s of kids a year from banking 10s or 100s of thousands of dollars simply so we can pretend college athletics is an amateur endeavor.
 
WRONG. She is looking at me. We have this unspoken bond, never met, never been in the same zip code, but i just know it.
LOL!

I'll admit that I was stealing a line from the one and only episode of Cheers that I watched (I loathed the show), where the mailman was telling everyone at the bar that the news anchor woman always looks at him through the t.v. while she's broadcasting.
 
That may have been when she was 48 as she was in the Saw movies and those were taken during some PR thing in 2010 from the links. Believe me Crop, she’s an all-timer. Google her pics back in the day.
Okay, here’s another one from her late 40’s. So I was off by a few years. That said, she still has it. I’m 50, she’s 55. I’d be her younger “kept man”

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Not many admit to NCAA violations on forums, touché. It sounds dumb, and is dumb, but by the letter of the law it would be a violation. Figured I would save Vodka and compliance some time.

Getting a lecture about NCAA rule violations from a Gopher wrestling fan....things that make you say hmmmm ;)
 
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Yeah. In the old days that would have been a walk. The times. . .they are a changing (as the song goes).
I walked from South Halls across campus many times to Sackett/Hammond bldgs. and Rec Hall for bball and wrestling in the dead of winter, up hill both ways in 65" on heavy, wet snow, barefooted in shorts and a t-top. But that was in an earlier era.......
 
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I struggled through party 5 of for something .............

the next night I struggled through dawson creek for something..............

the struggle is worth the effort.......
 
I walked from South Halls across campus many times to Sackett/Hammond bldgs. and Rec Hall for bball and wrestling in the dead of winter, up hill both ways in 65" on heavy, wet snow, barefooted in shorts and a t-top. But that was in an earlier era.......
Damn man. You were at PSU the same time as my father. Did you have any classes with Lenny Moore also?
;)
 
Damn man. You were at PSU the same time as my father. Did you have any classes with Lenny Moore also?
;)
Lenny was "just a bit outside" my time.....It didn't snow was much during his time at PSU, I was there in the global cooling phase of the late 60's - 70's, back when we were going to freeze in the dark acc. NBC. I think during Lenny's years then snow never totaled above 3' at a time, downhill, both ways always during the daytime. :)
 
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The Tri-Delta chapter at PSU was shut down in 2009 due to hazing and "risk management" allegations. The banned Tri-Delts morphed into "Trilogy", a "female campus organization" that is not recognized by the IFC. However, Trilogy is active in the PSU Greek scene, and I presume still has some fine looking ladies.
I'm married to a Tri-Delt and had a front-row seat for that cluster-f. The national had been unhappy for years about the focus on THON at the expense of their national charity (oddly enough, St. Judes). When the opportunity arose - a minor transgression that had been going on since the '70's - they shut it down. Although technically there wasn't anything to shut down because the sisters all quit first. FWIW I agree with the best-looking comment. :)
 
I'm married to a Tri-Delt and had a front-row seat for that cluster-f. The national had been unhappy for years about the focus on THON at the expense of their national charity (oddly enough, St. Judes). When the opportunity arose - a minor transgression that had been going on since the '70's - they shut it down. Although technically there wasn't anything to shut down because the sisters all quit first. FWIW I agree with the best-looking comment. :)
Pictures, or it didn't happen (of all of them, especially their cluster-f) ;)
 
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South is pretty much as far as the dorms can get... but Cael would probably rather see them jog it...LOL..

Gable would have put his ankle weights on, like he always did, and just run over there. Not a knock on those guys, just saying Gable was an strange dude and looked at everything thing he did as a chance to train.
 
My niece swam at Alabama, lost her A ring in England, took her over 2 years to have Alabama 'allow' her to get it replaced. The NCAA being the NCAA.
 
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