3rd and 1 play choices vs. Ohio State

[CaliLION79]

Plays of the (other) Day: 3rd Down and 1 Woes vs. Ohio State

FTB contributor Shane Paul shows how a pair of failed 3rd and 1 play calls show Mike Yurcich was focused on hitting big plays vs. Ohio State.

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Two plays that highlight how Yurcich was laser-focused on creative explosive plays vs. Ohio State, regardless of the down and distance -- a fundamental change from his methodical approach Weeks 1-6.

 

[91Joe95]

If you can't run for a single yard, you've got serious problems.

 

[johnmpsu]

Plays of the (other) Day: 3rd Down and 1 Woes vs. Ohio State

FTB contributor Shane Paul shows how a pair of failed 3rd and 1 play calls show Mike Yurcich was focused on hitting big plays vs. Ohio State.

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Two plays that highlight how Yurcich was laser-focused on creative explosive plays vs. Ohio State, regardless of the down and distance -- a fundamental change from his methodical approach Weeks 1-6.

The heck with "explosive" plays, just run the damn ball. Get first downs. Keep the other guys best player on the bench.

Given the talent on that team, it's the worst called game I've ever seen. Run the ball. Move the chains. Keep your offense on the field. Play solid fundamental football.

 

[lazydave841]

The motion seemed to kill the 1st play. We ran Proctor right to the throwing alley.

Allar's bad throw hurt nipped the second play, but Singleton needs to come down with those catches and help his QB out.

 

[Rip_E_2_Joe_PA]

The heck with "explosive" plays, just run the damn ball. Get first downs. Keep the other guys best player on the bench.

Given the talent on that team, it's the worst called game I've ever seen. Run the ball. Move the chains. Keep your offense on the field. Play solid fundamental football.

You nailed it. 3 hours of unrelenting boneheaded stupidity. How could he keep doing it over and over again and where was our head coach during that 3 hours; watching reruns of 'The Days of Our Lives'. WTF?, just WTF?

 

[NCLION]

We have been excellent with the T formation all season in short yardage
why did we not use it Saturday?

 

[PSU20]

Running the ball has been a problem for years against OSU in critical situations. 2017 at the shoe we had 1st down at the OSU 7 YL. Three RPO's later we were still on the 7 with the best RB in football. JF was happy with the FG, and we lost on the next series.

2018 at the Beav (IIRC). McSorely had 175 yards rushing against OSU. Crucial play on 4th down and we only needed about 1-2 yards. We ran the ball right at the best DL in college football for no gain, game over. And, both plays were called by our so called "genius OC" at the time. Mind boggling, and JF took a lot of heat from the fans walking off in that 2018 game.

Perfect start against the Bucks in 2018 (IIRC). Moved the ball right down the field and actually had their defense confused. In comes Tommy Stevens for the flat pass. I was screaming "No" at my TV. The entire country knew what we were going to run which turned into a 7 yard loss, and eventually a missed FG that killed the drive.

Our offensive play calling just doesn't make sense sometimes, but its been going on for years. Day has an incredible offensive mind, even though he has an OC heavily involved.

 

[bcspsu]

Running the ball has been a problem for years against OSU in critical situations. 2017 at the shoe we had 1st down at the OSU 7 YL. Three RPO's later we were still on the 7 with the best RB in football. JF was happy with the FG, and we lost on the next series.

2018 at the Beav (IIRC). McSorely had 175 yards rushing against OSU. Crucial play on 4th down and we only needed about 1-2 yards. We ran the ball right at the best DL in college football for no gain, game over. And, both plays were called by our so called "genius OC" at the time. Mind boggling, and JF took a lot of heat from the fans walking off in that 2018 game.

Perfect start against the Bucks in 2018 (IIRC). Moved the ball right down the field and actually had their defense confused. In comes Tommy Stevens for the flat pass. I was screaming "No" at my TV. The entire country knew what we were going to run which turned into a 7 yard loss, and eventually a missed FG that killed the drive.

Our offensive play calling just doesn't make sense sometimes, but its been going on for years. Day has an incredible offensive mind, even though he has an OC heavily involved.

Meanwhile, a relative head coaching neophyte, Seriani, who has a great qb and wide receivers and tight end, is smart enough to keep it simple on 3rd and 4th and 1s and let his powerful qb grind out a yard or two.

 

[LandoComando]

Plays of the (other) Day: 3rd Down and 1 Woes vs. Ohio State

FTB contributor Shane Paul shows how a pair of failed 3rd and 1 play calls show Mike Yurcich was focused on hitting big plays vs. Ohio State.

fortheblogy.com

Two plays that highlight how Yurcich was laser-focused on creative explosive plays vs. Ohio State, regardless of the down and distance -- a fundamental change from his methodical approach Weeks 1-6.

I disagree that it was about creating explosive plays. If was not having confidence in his run game.

 

[bcspsu]

I disagree that it was about creating explosive plays. If was not having confidence in his run game.

Yet, when they chose to use the run game, it was doing its job. In fact, the run game looked better in the first half when they actually tried it than it had in almost any first half of any game this season.

PSU never was going to give up any more than 17 to 20 points in that game, so it had no reason to abandon a conservative approach. I really believe that if OSU had had to stop the run the whole game, they eventually would've been worn down and that's when PSU could've seized control of that game. Instead, the "brain" trust decided to put the game in the hands of a qb who has performed very poorly in road games and get away from what they had been doing all season.

 

[PennState_one]

They should have used the heavy set and not deviated from what had been working all season. Imo, make them stop it first and foremost.

 

[LandoComando]

Yet, when they chose to use the run game, it was doing its job. In fact, the run game looked better in the first half when they actually tried it than it had in almost any first half of any game this season.

PSU never was going to give up any more than 17 to 20 points in that game, so it had no reason to abandon a conservative approach. I really believe that if OSU had had to stop the run the whole game, they eventually would've been worn down and that's when PSU could've seized control of that game. Instead, the "brain" trust decided to put the game in the hands of a qb who has performed very poorly in road games and get away from what they had been doing all season.

It's not really true though. Aside from Singleton's first 2 or we can say 3 touches the ground game didn't produce like it hasn't most if the year. I agree with your theory and evaluation that we needed to stick with the ground game as it was our only real path to victory. Just disagree the decisions were trying to create explosive plays instead of not having faith we could get a yard running it.

 

[KCLion]

They should have used the heavy set and not deviated from what had been working all season. Imo, make them stop it first and foremost.

Keep your offense on the field and 18 on the bench as much as possible.

 

[lazydave841]

, both plays were called by our so called "genius OC" at the time.

Rahne was OC in 2018. Nobody ever called him a genius.

 

[NoBareFeet]

It sucks that our coaching staff must think it is against the rules for a QB to take a snap from under center. Would really help the team out at times.

In the rare occasions this team runs the ball from under center, or runs play action when the QB starts out under center, there is often a successful play. But holy shit is that a rare occasion.

 

[PSU20]

Rahne was OC in 2018. Nobody ever called him a genius.

That's who I'm talking about, even though I would never call Morehead an offensive genius either.

 

[Texas Lion]

It sucks that our coaching staff must think it is against the rules for a QB to take a snap from under center. Would really help the team out at times.

In the rare occasions this team runs the ball from under center, or runs play action when the QB starts out under center, there is often a successful play. But holy shit is that a rare occasion.

Th problem is we did that the first 6 games!! The Power T and the QB Push were almost unstoppable. I have no idea where those plays went on Saturday.

 

[bcspsu]

Th problem is we did that the first 6 games!! The Power T and the QB Push were almost unstoppable. I have no idea where those plays went on Saturday.

Allar actually took several snaps under center in the UMass game, which surprised me when I saw that.

 

[Texas Lion]

Allar actually took several snaps under center in the UMass game, which surprised me when I saw that.

exactly, I have no idea why they didn't go to that against OSU.

 

[91Joe95]

Th problem is we did that the first 6 games!! The Power T and the QB Push were almost unstoppable. I have no idea where those plays went on Saturday.

Given Franklin's history I'm surprised it lasted that long. Allar is a big, powerful qb. Use it.