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According to Phil G, As with many posters on this board, the Pryts family has

Every opinion comes from some kind of experience. You just don't like the fact that the BOT's actions are the root cause for the Pryts' family discussions.

Not quite.....I just don't believe everything reported by Phil Grosz like you do.
 
Dude, we're just discussing the rumor. Nobody is saying it's true.

But if Phil Grosz said the BOT was a bunch of great guys, you'd probably believe that, I imagine.
 
Dude, we're just discussing the rumor. Nobody is saying it's true.

But if Phil Grosz said the BOT was a bunch of great guys, you'd probably believe that, I imagine.

Nope. See above answer.

I don't know why you peg me as a BOT lover. If calling it like I see it makes me a BOT lover.......then so be it.
 
Yeah, I know. In Michigan's fans minds the cover-up by their athletic department of the actions of Brendan Gibbons and Taylor Lewan never happened.
not in this Michigan fans eyes.This conversation wasn't about football. At least not until you made it about football.
 
It's not about telling someone how to spend their money. It's about giving someone the ability to make a well-informed decision about what's best for them, free of influence from someone who is blinded by anger.

A Penn State education, like any other, is a means to an end (comfortable life, good job, etc). If a prospective college student deems PSU (or Michigan, or any other school) the best fit and takes the time to do research....it's sad to think they won't be able to do what's best in their own minds because daddy is pissed off.


Again you are the one who says anger. I do not trust the leadership to make accurate informed decisions. If they handled this that poorly what other difficiencies do they have. If anything I am making a well informed decision based on the track record. The BOT either was not involved as leaders or knew what was going on. Either way that is failure of leadership. I am basing it on facts.

Plus there are plenty other univerties as good or better than PSU. I am not niave to think that there are not better universities. I won't pick college for my son and even if I don't like a place I will pay as long as long as the leadership is sound. I dont have to like the university. I do have to respect it though to pay.
 
Again you are the one who says anger. I do not trust the leadership to make accurate informed decisions. If they handled this that poorly what other difficiencies do they have. If anything I am making a well informed decision based on the track record. The BOT either was not involved as leaders or knew what was going on. Either way that is failure of leadership. I am basing it on facts.

Plus there are plenty other univerties as good or better than PSU. I am not niave to think that there are not better universities. I won't pick college for my son and even if I don't like a place I will pay as long as long as the leadership is sound. I dont have to like the university. I do have to respect it though to pay.

So, daddy got mad at the leadership, and daddy won't pay for PSU because he's mad? What if the student wants to be a mechanical engineer, or a nuclear engineer? Good luck finding better opportunities at other universities.
 
So, daddy got mad at the leadership, and daddy won't pay for PSU because he's mad? What if the student wants to be a mechanical engineer, or a nuclear engineer? Good luck finding better opportunities at other universities.
There are plenty of good schools out there in those subjects. Be real.
 
So, daddy got mad at the leadership, and daddy won't pay for PSU because he's mad? What if the student wants to be a mechanical engineer, or a nuclear engineer? Good luck finding better opportunities at other universities.

I don't see it that way at all. This isn't just about being mad about what happened in the past. Penn State is now in the control of people who are putting their own personal interests above the university's interests. They have cost Penn State hundreds of millions of dollars and there is no guarantee they they won't cost Penn State more money in the future. In fact, the longer they dig in and waste university resources protecting trustees who breached their duty to the university, the more it will ultimately cost. And those costs will diminish Penn State. They have also fired excellent employees for petty, vindictive reasons (not just Paterno, but also Kaidanov and Sherbourne), and there is no guarantee that they won't do the same again. The President assures the university community that he's going to do something, and then a few months later he decides that he's not going to do it, after all. Why should he be trusted?

In short, there is no reason to have any confidence in the current management regime, so I wouldn't blame any Penn State employee who decided to leave for another institution (in fact, I would argue that it's crazy to stick around), and I certainly wouldn't blame a parent for wanting his kid to go somewhere that is not suffering from these kind of management problems.
 
How many of you who disagree with me, have gone to athletic events, or would go if they were so able?

I'm not disagreeing that PSU management is horrid. IMO, the BOT f'ed up to epic proportions and continues to do so. My point is that it's absurd to make a life altering choice for your children regardless of who is paying the bill. It's also been my experience that many parents say they are paying the bill, when in fact it's a loan product that junior is in some way responsible for in he future.
 
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How many of you who disagree with me, have gone to athletic events, or would go if they were so able?

I'm not disagreeing that PSU management is horrid. IMO, the BOT f'ed up to epic proportions and continues to do so. My point is that it's absurd to make a life altering choice for your children regardless of who is paying the bill. It's also been my experience that many parents say they are paying the bill, when in fact it's a loan product that junior is in some way responsible for in he future.
I just think it's something between the kid and parent. You and I really don't have all the details so really it's not anyone's business at that point but theirs. Just my opinion tho.
 
I just think it's something between the kid and parent. You and I really don't have all the details so really it's not anyone's business at that point but theirs. Just my opinion tho.

Fair point--with that said, coming from a place where I had "choices" dictated to me, and working in an environment where I see people who had situations forced upon them gives me my perspective.
 
How many of you who disagree with me, have gone to athletic events, or would go if they were so able?

I'm not disagreeing that PSU management is horrid. IMO, the BOT f'ed up to epic proportions and continues to do so. My point is that it's absurd to make a life altering choice for your children regardless of who is paying the bill. It's also been my experience that many parents say they are paying the bill, when in fact it's a loan product that junior is in some way responsible for in he future.

My son has a very healthy 529. He will repay zero to me. If he warns a scholarship or attends a military academy, goes to school for free. He will be rewarded.

It is voice of my money will not go to poorly run organization.

There are many schools better than PSU or equal, in the big ten m even. Such as UM, Purdue, Maryland, and Northwestern.

It's is the same frequenting a business I find poorly run I do not invest.
 
Fair point--with that said, coming from a place where I had "choices" dictated to me, and working in an environment where I see people who had situations forced upon them gives me my perspective.
And based off those situations in your life that's a fair point to make. That doesn't mean others can't go about it how they feel fit. I can appreciate your take on it but at the same time I understand others peoples take on it as well. Thanka for the honest reply
 
My late wife would occasionally say "don't tell ME how I feel." Some of you should consider that advise. Many will never feel the same about PSU after the way Joe was treated. If it was the actions of a few who are no longer in power......why is it that Joe is still persona non grata? I suggest that there is really no right or wrong here.
 
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