It's already closed for everyone except ND and OSU. I believe they get either 5 or 10 days after their last game (Monday) to enter the portal.
Al Golden
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I think he was exceptional with UCLA and USC is a dumpster fire under Lincoln. I think he's making a mistake staying as that team largely quit on Riley.
I had an issue with Beau's delusion fans not Beau prior to him blaming the NCAA. I don't believe for a second he regretted it but we're both guessing. His departure was one of pure emotion and I'd wager he felt relief if not joy when we lost.
They get a week after the season ends which was the issue with Beau's statement and then CJF trying to jump on that train. Yes, any school will find a way to get them enrolled.
You're not at all practical. You are habitually extremist and overly negative ... and obsessive about it. Not just on this topic, but on every topic.
OSU? OSU is projected to lose just about everybody next year. We lost a few here and there, and did a tremendous job of retaining talent that coulda/shoulda moved on, but decided to run it back.
We are stacked as a team. That one position or position group doesn't currently project to be elite doesn't take away from the fact that we are bringing a ridiculous amount of experienced talent back, that already led us to what should have been a Natty appearance. Just about all of our offensive talent is back ... that's crazy. Yeah, we lost an all-world TE, but we have oodles of TE talent in the room to replace him. We're not just bringing back our O-line, but our O-line depth.
And wasn't it you who started out saying Carter wasn't good on the line, and then switched to the defense needed him at LB? You would have thought you'd learn from your mistakes, but then we just need to reference my first paragraph to see why that won't happen. We have plenty of D-line and edge talent returning. This is usually the year when you see an uber-athletic guy who switched positions to LB flourish, so expect Rojas to take a big leap .. we have more talent there and we have plenty of returning talent in the secondary.
We almost return everyone ... with a year more of experience ... from a team that should have been in the Natty game ... and you're crying about it, because our receivers will be poo (even though they were allegedly poo on this year's team, too, so what does it matter?).
Most of this year's top squads are just purging talent, and we managed to hang on to most of ours.
And even if the WRs and LBs are lights out next year, we'll have to read your posts saying how they stink ... because, again, see my first paragraph.
I think they have 5 days after the game to portal. Remember that Devin Brown, OSU back-up QB said he would portal after the CFP.
No, I said Carter would serve this team better at linebacker, because that is a position of weakness on this team. It will be a weakness next year. It's one thing to be athletic. It is quite another to play smart and fill the right gaps.
We were lucky to be in the semis this year because of the draw that we got. We had the easiest path, so let's not make it more than what it was. We still have not beaten an elite team under Franklin. Period. You have to go all the way back to 2016 to find the last time we beat OSU, and that had to come on a blocked kick/return. Since then we have come close at times but always find a way to lose. Those are the facts.
There is a pattern here. We make bad game time decisions when the game is on the line but, perhaps more importantly, we tend to run out of gas for lack of depth.
OSU may not have a good team next year. That isn't the point. Someone else will have a great team that doesn't have gaping holes in it, and that team will win the NC. It probably won't be PSU unless a lot of stars happen to align.
You don't like anything I post because I am conservative and you are an extreme leftist. That carries into how you view what I post, and vice versa.
I had you on Ignore and decided to respond because someone else linked your post in a response to me. That was a mistake. Back to ignore with you.
Pretty sure you were one of the few that was complaining that Carter stunk at DE, and needed to move back to LB in the beginning of the year ... and then you shifted to "we need the best DE in the nation to be an LB instead" because you couldn't let go ... as is usual with you.
We weren't lucky to be in the semis. We would have smoked other teams ... if we had Texas's seed, we would have been in the semis, too. We were a VERY good team, who barely lost to some other top squads - yes, we underperformed. We should have been in the Natty game.
It IS the point that OSU loses a ton ... just like a ton of other teams. No team is stout everywhere. Every fan base complains about Position X, Y or Z. OSU will likely be a top team again next year, because that's college football. People move on, and others step in and become that next guy. No team is perfect ... they all have holes that can be exploited.
But what PSU has, that I don't think any other team has, is a poop-ton of experienced top-end-to-very-good talent returning all over the field. We don't need the "stars to align" to be a likely top-end team. That'll be the expectation, and it's well-deserved.
That's the difference between you and me ... I think reality is real, and you think it's a charade and there's evil and certain doom lurking under the surface that is the true reality. And your assertion that I'm an extreme leftist when I'm a sometimes-right-sometimes-left-leaning moderate, and that you're just a typical conservative, and not the lunatic fringe ... is just another manifestation of your issues. We know you like to ignore reality and live in this negative doomsday world, so it's no surprise you chose to take the action you did.
While a lot of people want to write Golden off I would wait until after them a day or three or so. While there might be some trepidation on a Golden hire due to perceived alumni relationships, I don't think Franklin necessarily fears that.
Bryant Haines interviewed last Monday and there has only been people who aren't in the know who are trying to shoot that down unless I missed it. So, I think he's still a possibility and Golden has not yet been contacted so there's that.
I thought I had you convinced that it was going to be your man Golden to PSU for DC. Just kidding.
He doesn't mean that it will happen just that it's good and make sense. Franklin still isn't the stupid but we'll soon see if I'm giving him too much credit
I can tell you that he's being pressured so maybe damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.
And that pressure is the problem and why he can't do it. If that's the case he needs to find a new job.
We still don't know the level of interest on Goldens part but I'm being led to believe that if he wants it, he'll probably get it. I too thought that Franklin might not want that but now I'm not so sure. I don't think that Franklin is as at odds with that decision as perhaps we are led to believe.
I agree we have a shot and a pretty good one at that but we are not the favorites. I know you didn't say that. We have holes that are concerning. WR being the biggest one. After that, LB and Safety/CB (back 5 in 4 2 5). Another issue is we are trying to replace two all-time greats in Warren and Carter. Sure we have great depth particularly at TE but these guys were incredible for us. I think we have potentially 2 more losses in the reg season this year if we didn't have Warren. USC for sure and maybe Illinois or Minny.
We still don't have a DC but I am hopeful we at a minimum hold serve with a guy equal to Allen. That should be doable for sure.
Finally, we have the Franklin and overall team issue of not making the plays or rising to the moment in these big games. At this point that has to be a concern. Seen the bad movie enough times that it can't be ignored.
I think OSU and Oregon will be ranked ahead of us. OSU loses a lot but their depth is insane. Their QB will be young but really good and my bet is better than Howard. Great WRs of course. And the O-Line? Everyone thought this year after they lost a couple starters that they were going to collapse. Well, look at them now. Point being they just reload. On defense, yep they lose a few really good guys but they will replace them. They always do. They have recruited top 5 classes. We are like 15th. That makes a difference. So at the end of the day our chance to beat OSU in Columbus with our track record vs them there is low.
Oregon will have a very good QB and they too have recruited very well. Better than us over the last 3 years. We have a decent shot to beat them in HV but who knows.
I think for us to have a reasonable shot at a run for the natty, Allar has to have one of those generational seasons where he puts it all together. His play in the big games vs OSU and Oregon has to improve dramatically from where it has been in these big games. We also need a bona fide B10 #1 WR to emerge. Just have to have it. Without both of those occurring we don't beat OSU nor Oregon. Maybe we slip into the playoffs based on our brand name and quality losses (assuming we are not blown out). Then I don't see us getting the favorable draw we got this year so getting beyond the quarters will be tough.
Regardless of Golden's interest. If Franklin has any "pressure" to hire a coach that isn't his top choice or someone he wants then he needs to leave--I'd say that for any coach at any program. I don't believe Franklin wants anything to do with that. I don't think we need to be "led to believe" anything regarding that. Golden/Franklin won't work. Hopefully Golden's smart enough to see that.
You were another negative nelly ... not as bad as KnightWhoKnowsNot ... but a pessimist, nonetheless.
You're looking only at the negatives for us, and assuming positives for everyone else. Yawn. That's boring and sad.
We don't need the things you're claiming. We're going to improve in other areas ... you guys overlook that. We're going to have an incredible OL. That makes up for A LOT. It makes everyone else better. The whole machine can run cleaner and more efficiently. More time to throw, bigger, more consistent holes to run through. Less reliance on guys like Warren having to make big plays. Because the whole thing improves. And we have great talent at TE. Not focusing on one guy will actually help us, overall. And AK has another year implementing an offense, knowing the players he has at his disposal. That's huge.
We don't have holes in the secondary. We have plenty of talent returning/coming in back there. Just about every year the fan base complains about LB, and just about every year someone new steps up and does a job. Rojas, Wylie, Speca, Robinson, Nelson, Deluca ... just watch.
We're stout. In as good a position to be a top contender as you could possibly dream. Instead, folks like you are talking up all our weaknesses (and concocting some), talking up the competition without any logic or reason, and crapping over last year's team, which would have been in the semis, regardless.
Knock it off.
I am not disputing that we will be good even very good. I am disputing that we will be signifcantly better than this season and one of the front runners to win a natty which you are asserting.
Three key issues to overcome even if our defense is as good or even better.
-WRs
-Allar play in big games
-Franklin, staff and team ability to rise to the occasion in clutch moments in big games
Where is this so-called pressure coming from? Surely you can’t be referring to a handful of posters on a bulletin board. If so you are way overstating our importance. I am pretty sure that Franklin feels no pressure to hire any particular coach.
If he would happen to hire Golden it would be because he thinks he is the best coach for the job. Nothing less, nothing more.
To say that if Franklin hires Golden it would be that he was pressured is crazy logic.
Why do you hate Golden so much? I don’t get it.
If Franklin would hire Golden, I would hope that you would embrace it.
Well, per 4U and "his sources" it's clearly not the posters. Did you read the comments? Weird, as you believed the earlier comments but then ignored this one.
There's no hate--it's a bad fit
There's nothing to embrace--we'll see how long that marriage lasts--my guess is one is gone by 2026. Same as with Allen.
Golden & Franklin together won't work. Golden doesn't run things like Franklin--never has.
Why would Franklin be waiting so long? The Indiana guy or Poindexter or the Browns guy could have been hired by now. Could be waiting for Al.
Could they have? Poindexter yes but there's NFL HC openings that would delay a decision. He could also be waiting in Knowles who is the better option.
It's not Poindexter unless everything else went south then he will have to be convinced to take it. He wants the VA HC job but IMO he needs to be a Coordinator first, so he better take it if it's offered but it seems he doesn't want it.
I can’t find where 4U says that his sources say the pressure isn’t coming from the posters.
Do you know Golden or know someone that knows Golden? There is more to your disapproval of Golden than just thinking he isn’t a good fit?
Did you think Tom Allen was a good fit when he was hired? If not who were you hoping for when Allen was hired?
Not sure how you're missing the context with things. You think this meant from us? Come on
Golden isn't a good fit. We've seen how Golden runs a program and how he handles recruiting at ND. That doesn't fit what Franklin demands and is one of the main reason Allen is now gone.
Allen was a stop gap--not good or bad. He was neutral.
I wanted Lynn last year as well as this year.
I don't understand why you're not seeing the issue surrounding Golden--we all know what they are and that they exist. We also shouldn't be surprised by pressure from those that feed the program. We've seen that before.
How exactly does Golden run a program and handle recruiting?
Also this is the first time I heard a hint of Allen being let go or leaving because he didn’t fit. I was being sold that he left because the money was better and he would be closer to his daughters. Interesting.
Franklin probably realizes now that he should have hired Golden last year. We would probably be playing tonight.
Well my info has changed quickly. It's not going to be Golden and am now hearing that the next DC will more than likely come from the pro ranks. Maybe! That person will have to say yes and as it stands right now no one has, yet.
He should have been ruled out prior but anyone on the fence should be a hard no now
Problem is, if we win you will want golden to be hc. If we lose you will want golden to be hc.
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