.. and there it is, Tom Allen to Clemson, smoke everywhere...
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He was asked to leave alright. By Clemson. One of the premier football programs in the country. And he said OK.
It happened awfully fast though. The PSU body was still warm when this guy left.
Sorry but I don't think it all started after the playoff loss, and I don't think James fought at all for him. I think Franklin helped him out the door.
LOL @ Clemson being "one of the premier football programs in the country".
Leaving the #3 team in the country for a maybe top ten team doesn't check out unless he wasn't happy or unless he really needs $$.
Are they? They are better at football than South Carolina, but aren’t even the premier state university in a tiny state with a mediocre median income.
Clemson was the primary program looking at “private equity” IIRC, which makes me think they’re not able to keep up with the big boys financially.
LOL @ “LOL @ Clemson being ‘one of the premier football programs in the country’.” Is that how the kids say it?
Clemson's foray into PE has more to do with getting out of the conference than anything else. Clemson has money to throw around for coaches and players. I will give Clemson credit for them not allowing their money to be used in an auction block scenario for players. Same for PS and the way we have been very selective in the portal.
The main programs in the ACC who are/seem to be going PE are Clemson FSU and UNC for now. Have to wait and see what those meetings will result in this week as the Commissioner and some programs (not all) are meeting in NC this week. Should be interesting.
I think that's how people say it. I'm old enough to remember both of PSU NCs, Super Chief.
Plus winning the ACC isn't exactly a challenge even in a down year for them
Thanks, I haven’t followed that closely. I think Franklin liked the idea of having a former head coach on staff. Nick Saban always did this and Ryan Day had Chip, but I’m not too upset about Allen leaving. He did a good job but nothing that can’t be replicated.
Funny, even a teenager can remember Clemson’s 4 national championship games, winning 2. LOL Super-duper Chief.
If this scenario did not play out last year, I would be more in agreement.
The approach taken by Penn State regarding roster management I believe give us an advantage over most programs because we have better player retention and continuity.
If those same players are constantly forced to learn a new system and different terminology every year, it could work to negate some of that advantage.
Let's see who and how quickly we identify and announce his replacement.
What the hell is Hagans still here? His room has sucked for multiple seasons.
Coordinator chaos is not a formula for success.
If Franklin is pushing him out then it's the same old same old. He's once again saying, not my fault look over there. Through all these years of not beating better teams with so many different coaches there is one common denominator, Franklin.
Stability used to matter. Maybe it doesn't anymore.
If Franklin is pushing him out then it's the same old same old. He's once again saying, not my fault look over there. Through all these years of not beating better teams with so many different coaches there is one common denominator, Franklin.
Stability used to matter. Maybe it doesn't anymore.
He's being pushed out because he still refuses to admit Penix was short in 2020 ;-)
Not the point, moron.
You implied I was young because of the verbiage I used. I pointed out that the truth is quite to the contrary.
And I could give a f*ck about Clemson. They are a 2nd rate program in a 3rd rate conference in a bottom tier state.
Some are saying Franklin and Allen did not get along all that well and Allen didn’t want to coach from the booth. Apparently he’s also very religious which meshes with Dabo.
Moron? Ad hominem fallacy. Used when an argument is lost. Your lame attempt to belittle Clemson is obviously refuted by their superior record in the recent decade. This is where the kids say LOL to you. Chief.
Also, you seem angry as well as uninformed:
South Carolina's population growth hit a fresh peak in 2024 as new residents continued to pour in from other states and nations.
Federal Census Bureau data shows the Palmetto State has been a top destination for people relocating from other parts of the U.S. for some time, with only two states gaining more residents over the past year from what's known as domestic migration.
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This all seems too quick to be a new development and yes- James perpetually places himself as where the buck stops- but he survives whilst others don't.
I was hopeful that despite the loss of Abdul Carter- that the continuity with Allen could lead to a more effective defense.
Scratch that plan......
Coach AK will likely have opportunities after next year too so the merry-go-round will continue.
Rumors are, that while he wasn't fired, the deep thinkers didn't work hard to retain him. In other words, they think they can do better for less.
I am hearing that Allen's kids are in the Carolinas. No idea what if any merit that has.....
Remember, the defensive quarterbacks couldn't hear Allen's raspy voice causing the defensive play calls to have to be sent down by another coach. And while that may not seem like a lot, it may be. Allen would have to tell an assistant and that would take a couple of seconds. If the assistant didn't hear, very possibly in loud situations, that could add another couple of seconds. PSU ended up being susceptible to hurry-up offenses and was caught unprepared at several key times. That could have been a factor.
Either way, I don't think CJF tried to keep him when he came to the staff with an offer. Or maybe he wasn't interested in an offer as he is already a wealthy man.
Honestly, I am not concerned by this at all.
Whenever people invoke these silly debate team arguing "rules" I know they don't have any valid point.
Clemson is a shitty school, in a shitty state with a shitty coach. Full stop.
Masses of people doing something doesn't make it a good idea. See also, the last election.
See above.
Congratulations for being the first person to engage in rank speculation and blame Allen’s leaving on Franklin. I can’t imagine how the program can possibly survive Allen’s departure.
Where is Lynn now? Is he a genuine candidate. I don’t think Connor would be experienced enough for this but who knows.
USC--he has experience at UCLA as well. If he's willing to come back east I think he's the top choice
I don't know how much experience they're looking for. Put Connor as the play caller with and experienced staff he'd likely do well. I'm fine with Poindexter. I just think it's going to be less obvious
I've spent time in South Carolina and it is garbage. Other than Charleston which is fine but wouldn't want to live there (public transportation is terrible and it's not walkable outside of the historic downtown)
Then again, the south in general is garbage. There is only one city in the south I would live in and not until retirement.
The defensive philosophy of the new DC - if promoted from within.
Poindexter was the DC for UConn from 2014 - 16. The record of the teams that he coached were not very good. '15 was his best season there record wise at 6 - 7.
Regarding his defensive approach there or even the quality of athlete that he had to work are unknown to me. What would his approach be now?
And Dan Connor, to my knowledge has no DC experience to draw from. I wonder what his defensive approach from a schematic perspective would be like.
Poindexter was the DC for UConn from 2014 - 16. The record of the teams that he coached were not very good. '15 was his best season there record wise at 6 - 7.
Regarding his defensive approach there or even the quality of athlete that he had to work are unknown to me. What would his approach be now?
And Dan Connor, to my knowledge has no DC experience to draw from. I wonder what his defensive approach from a schematic perspective would be like.
I guess you don't understand the meaning of the word IF. I know it's a long and difficult to understand word but try reading, IF you can, what I wrote and try again to comprehend it.
Good luck.
South Carolina, Clemson and coastal Carolina are three of the highest growing choices for high school students from the north east and mid Atlantic. Schools are improving, quality of life is better my guess is you’re just biased.
