Why are you so angry? All I did was point out the absolute true fact that Clemson is one of the premier football programs in the country and you hit us with all this nonsense ? 4 national championship games and 2 wins in 10 years is proof positive. The state of SC is garbage? Yet it is one of the fastest growing in the country. You dislike southern culture and weather when both of those issues are increasing in popularity? You claim you rely on data but in reality you seem more like an emotional ideologue who calls people names when they say things you don’t want to hear. If you really were as smart as you think you are you would open your eyes, look around and maybe reassess a little bit.
.. and there it is, Tom Allen to Clemson, smoke everywhere...
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I remember during summer camp, Franklin remarked that he had to scold Allen for blowing his whistle as if he was the head coach. He just seems like a weird guy who seemed to be liked by the players but maybe was an oddball to Franklin and everyone else
Like I said, despite what you profess, you seem more like an emotional ideologue than a reasonable person. But who am I to judge? Glad to hear you don’t have kids. I don’t recommend them. They would only change your dark life that you’re about to live through and that might be scary to your world view. Good luck and Let’s Go Tigers!
So we are three threads and probably a total of ten pages deep and nobody has ever mentioned it: It was A REAL PROBLEM that the players could not understand what the hell he was saying, and damn right it has a negative effect on the defense. They were very poor in communication on the field and paid for it dearly in all three losses.
I wonder if that's a reason that King got caught in man coverage a couple of times.
Absolutely it was the reason. They moved him pre snap to the wide side near the boundary and nobody was communicating on defense. Tengwall said as much about this play on his post game.
This is not revisionist history but stop and think about it: You have a defensive coordinator who is responsible for making crucial, split second decisions, and his main job is to relay that to the field, in fractions of seconds, that impact everything, but nobody understands him, so he has to relay THAT call to ANOTHER on field coach(in this case it was Dan Connor), and then THAT coach has to relay what he just heard to the players. By it's very nature, you are losing all that time to the offense, and you are essentially playing with one arm tied behind your back on every down.
I honestly think this was the main thing that crippled this defense this year, and contributed to why They couldn't adjust quickly during drives.
Two pastors are standing together by the road, holding up a sign that reads, “Turn back! The end is near!”
A man driving by reads their sign and yells, “Go away, you religious nuts! Don’t shove that down my throat!”
Minutes later, the pastors hear a loud splash.
One of them turns to the other and says, “Maybe we should change the sign to say, ‘Warning, Bridge Out Ahead’.”
A man driving by reads their sign and yells, “Go away, you religious nuts! Don’t shove that down my throat!”
Minutes later, the pastors hear a loud splash.
One of them turns to the other and says, “Maybe we should change the sign to say, ‘Warning, Bridge Out Ahead’.”
"Despite all the data you've just given me, I want to view you in an unfavorable light, so I will"
Yep, this tracks with South Carolina. Enjoy Tom Allen. He is far from a defensive genius so he'll fit right in.
I am a Penn State graduate, former 30+ year season ticket holder who lives in Pennsylvania. I have no connection to Clemson whatsoever. You are the one so blinded by your ideology you don’t even know what you are arguing about.
PS: you didn’t give me any data. All you provided was some drivel from USnews (are they even still in business?) and restrictions on abortion which are somehow supposed to equate to government oppression. All because you have some irrational hatred of Clemson, the state of South Carolina and the south in general? And then you try to throw Jesus under the bus as well. Maybe talking to a counselor might help.
I applaud the move. Allen never seemed like a good fit to me. After watching his defenses start games/halves and their inability to play zones there was no way that I thought he was the answer.
Why you would pick up a coach like this in the first place (a demotion from a perennial doormat) was a mystery. It did not speak well to Franklin's judgment unless he thought there would be some kind of recruiting benefit -- stretching out more into the midwest. That would speak to what we tend to see in Franklin -- recruiting over coaching.
Why you would pick up a coach like this in the first place (a demotion from a perennial doormat) was a mystery. It did not speak well to Franklin's judgment unless he thought there would be some kind of recruiting benefit -- stretching out more into the midwest. That would speak to what we tend to see in Franklin -- recruiting over coaching.
It's just the south in general. Bunch of traitors who think that education is "the devil" and want the rest of the educated population of the country to submit to their weird Jesus Sharia law.
But you not liking my data source doesn't discount it.
Here's another one: SC ranks 43 in K-12 performance.
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I don't know anything about how schools are ranked but my guess is that differences in real education are probably more about whether the school is in an inner city or a rural area versus suburban big city metro. Not going to attract good teachers into undesirable areas.
Other professions that would support well-rounded families/kids that are more apt to learn would similarly align. Small college towns, like State College, would be outliers, as results in these areas are driven higher by public money and student debt.
the single biggest predictor (correlation) in a students chance for success in school and in whether a system is 'good' or not is having a two -parent household, not income. The kids with two parents (of any type) living in the house with them are significantly better in school and the systems with the highest levels of them are significantly better.
One has to remember that one of the ranking systems for schools now is diversity, so schools that are nearly all one race/ethnicity score poorly in that area. Also, number of AP and IB courses and tests given no longer reflect the true advanced level numbers in schools as many rural schools partner with CC to offer dual enrollment college courses. This helps the local school system by not making them spend loads of money for courses that the local CC is already offering. These two aspects bring many rural school systems down and make them appear as bad schools when they actually are better than most of the ones with inflated rating from being diverse and offering many AP tests which are generally paid for by tax dollars and kids score awful on but because they grade the district on tests given and not the average score, they look great.
LOLOLOLOLOLOL.
You realize that any state can have good/hard working/qualified adminstrators in a system that is failing due to lack of funding, right?
There may be bias, but when a state is consistently ranked in the bottom 20% for education that is telling.
That may be, but regardless of the forcing factors if a state has sh*tty education, I don't think you can say it is a "great state".
As someone who has worked in the Maryland state Department of education, I can tell you that many of those districts down there are getting more out of their kids with less funding than we are up here. Baltimore city spends more money per student than any other district in the state and have less than 20% of their kids that are functionally illiterate.
Until the rankings and the education system which is bought out by a certain political party, agree that the education that a person receives shouldn’t be based on whether they go to college or not then you won’t ever have anything changed with the rankings.
Rumors I've read is that Lynn's wife is from the west coast and does not want to move to State College. No idea how true that is. I think you have to at least call Al Golden but he would be expensive and has little reason to leave ND. I'm hearing rumblings that Knowles isn't happy with Day and working with LJ Sr and may be another possible call, again someone I'd think is unlikely.
I'd gladly take Knowles
Have mixed thoughts on Golden. Doubt CJF makes that call.
Good post Obli,
Wife and I were just discussing this issue w/Allen
Tom was difficult to understand with his vocal cord cysts or whatever he’s got going on. James called him out for blowing his whistle too often at practice as if he still thought he was the head coach. I guess he wasn’t a good fit as a coordinator with us. I was surprised he was hired in the first place.
If Franklin really thinks Tom was "awesome" then the move to Clemson is probably about proximity to family (and maybe about weather too).
BOT scheduled 2 HR Committee meetings for Friday & Monday
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Penn State Board of Trustees Schedules Pair of Human Resources Committee Meetings. Could Defensive Coordinator Hire Be Imminent?
Penn State’s Board of Trustees’ Committee on Equity and Human Resources has scheduled a pair of meetings that could signal the conclusion to a quick
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BOT scheduled 2 HR Committee meetings for Friday & Monday
Penn State Board of Trustees Schedules Pair of Human Resources Committee Meetings. Could Defensive Coordinator Hire Be Imminent?
Penn State’s Board of Trustees’ Committee on Equity and Human Resources has scheduled a pair of meetings that could signal the conclusion to a quick
You beat me to it.
57 yrs married next month. Married during my second semester at The Pennsylvania State University, I believe in '68
Well, Tom being "awesome" also means that the guy who hired Tom did a pretty good job too.
Just sayin'....
That is fantastic. I love and adore my wife but she doesn't know anything about football or even sports in general. Several years ago, my wife was on the phone with her mom and said "let me see what Oblivax thinks." She turned to me and asked if I wanted to go over to her mom's place to eat homemade Italian food and watch a football game. Afterward, she said, "It is almost March, what football game is on Sunday?" I said 'The Superbowl!". With all of the hype, how can you not know that it is SuperBowl Sunday even if you aren't a football fan?
