And thus the CJF to USC rumors swirl
- Thread starter RTRMR
- Start date
USC hires Penn State coach James Franklin to replace Clay Helton
Few in the industry would be surprised to see Franklin as USC's next head coach. Meyer's return is no guarantee, and he might not be the preferred choice of new USC president Carol Folt.
Franklin has a very good team at Penn State and momentum in recruiting. He's a "Pennsylvania boy with a Penn State heart," as he famously said at his PSU introduction. But he also wants to win a national championship. If Penn State loses to Ohio State for the third consecutive year, and the Buckeyes win their third consecutive league title, Franklin could bolt for USC. Coaches crave access and USC has more -- both in recruiting and for the playoff -- than Penn State.
Oklahoma's loss opens door for CFP debate over one-loss teams
If the Penn State job opens, the candidate pool would be excellent. Four names immediately jump out: Baylor coach Matt Rhule (a former Penn State linebacker), Iowa State coach Matt Campbell, Mississippi State coach Joe Moorhead and Cincinnati coach Luke Fickell.
Rhule recently received a contract extension at Baylor, but I'm told it wouldn't prohibit him from a move like Penn State, where he'd be a home-run hire. Moorhead, who shined as Penn State's offensive coordinator in 2016 and 2017, must turn things around with the Bulldogs but still has strong support among key Penn State people. Campbell, still one of the more talked-about candidates in the country, is ultimately a better fit closer to his home state of Ohio. Fickell has Cincinnati headed toward its second straight double-digit win season. He also has recruited Pennsylvania for years.
Few in the industry would be surprised to see Franklin as USC's next head coach. Meyer's return is no guarantee, and he might not be the preferred choice of new USC president Carol Folt.
Franklin has a very good team at Penn State and momentum in recruiting. He's a "Pennsylvania boy with a Penn State heart," as he famously said at his PSU introduction. But he also wants to win a national championship. If Penn State loses to Ohio State for the third consecutive year, and the Buckeyes win their third consecutive league title, Franklin could bolt for USC. Coaches crave access and USC has more -- both in recruiting and for the playoff -- than Penn State.
Oklahoma's loss opens door for CFP debate over one-loss teams
If the Penn State job opens, the candidate pool would be excellent. Four names immediately jump out: Baylor coach Matt Rhule (a former Penn State linebacker), Iowa State coach Matt Campbell, Mississippi State coach Joe Moorhead and Cincinnati coach Luke Fickell.
Rhule recently received a contract extension at Baylor, but I'm told it wouldn't prohibit him from a move like Penn State, where he'd be a home-run hire. Moorhead, who shined as Penn State's offensive coordinator in 2016 and 2017, must turn things around with the Bulldogs but still has strong support among key Penn State people. Campbell, still one of the more talked-about candidates in the country, is ultimately a better fit closer to his home state of Ohio. Fickell has Cincinnati headed toward its second straight double-digit win season. He also has recruited Pennsylvania for years.
I've said all along.....it isn't about keeping some whining fanboys happy. It is really about keeping Coach Franklin happy here. I hope he is here for a long, long time and he (IMO) has earned what should be overwhelming support.
Not a bunch of I support him buts.........
Not a bunch of I support him buts.........
I think Franklin is set to make 6 million by 2020 on his current contract. And judging from the way this season is going, I'd imagine PSU will be offering him a giant contract extension in the coming months.
Good thing that Rittenberg's wife is the one bringing home the grocery money.
If Franklin's main goal is to win a National Championship, why would he go to USC? Especially this year. USC will take five yrs to get rebuilt and win a NC. Penn State not only has a solid shot this year but has an even better shot next year. He will stay at least until after next year.
Wow, what would Rhule have to do to thrill you? He turns Temple into a legit bowl team, then goes to Baylor who is in shambles and turns them into 7-0 in two years. The guy is incredible. I don’t want Franklin to go anywhere, but if he did, I’d feel pretty good about the future with Ruhle.
(Took long enough before SOMEONE said anything sensible in this thread)
"Industry sources?" Try Cheerios bowl. USC doesn't have an athletic director yet.
A
anon_xdc8rmuek44eq
Guest
Can/will USC pay Top 5 HC salary? If so, USC has a lot going for it - namely, easier conference and road to playoff and best or second best recruiting state in the country.
As for potential PSU HCs, No to Moorhead, No to Fickell, No to Campbell. Maybe Rhule. I've always liked David Shaw at Stanford and Greg Roman was my favorite candidate before we hired OB. Hope Franklin stays though - dude is building something special.
Last edited by a moderator:
There are people here that pay for espn content?
As Foghorn Leghorn once said, "I say I say, that boy's about sharp as a bowling ball".
Im sure he and his family would love those annual brush fires and evacuations, the power blackouts, and the hours sitting in traffic.
A
anon_xdc8rmuek44eq
Guest
With an active portal system in play, I don't think it takes USC that long to build a championship team, especially since their roster is fairly loaded with talent. Just need someone to put everything together - Helton isn't that guy.
Here is their 5 & 4 star recruits (and overall ranking) since 2015:
2015 - 4, 17 (1)
2016 - 2, 11 (10)
2017 - 0, 17 (6)
2018 - 5, 13 (3)
2019 - 0, 10 (19)
Bottom line is with the right coach, they can recruit like few other programs in the country (Bama, OSU, LSU).
A few months ago, I would have agreed with you 100%, but boy do I love what he's doing at Baylor right now.
Aside from what he did at Temple, he went to Baylor under difficult circumstances. After going 1-11 his first year, he got a bowl win last year and is off to a 7-0 start now that his guys are seeing the field. Going to be really fun to watch them down the stretch against TCU and OU & Texas at home.
Last edited:
A
anon_xdc8rmuek44eq
Guest
I mean, if you're making $8-10mm a year, and want to win a NC, I don't know that those things are on your radar. If everyone only cared about potential negative weather effects or natural disasters no one would live in Florida or Southern California.
Matt Rhule and Matt Campbell are fantastic coaches. If Franklin bolted, they would be my top candidates.
Like I've said before.... Following this board, I am led to believe that ALL of Penn State's success is due to Joe Morehead, the Founding Father of the Modern Day Offense. Franklin is barely capable of brushing his teeth and putting on his own socks..... So why wouldn't USC just go after Joe Morehead, the Inventor Of The Forward Pass ????
Considering how many of you are now wanting to jump on my Ruhle to PSU bandwagon, I'm going to have to start charging a boarding fee.
Please read this very recent article on the Franklin family and tell me that they really want to live in or around LA.
http://www.statecollege.com/news/to...in-his-wife-fumi-and-their-daughters,1481256/
http://www.statecollege.com/news/to...in-his-wife-fumi-and-their-daughters,1481256/
Franklin’s not going any where....this garbage comes up every year and every year he stays at Penn State.
Not to mention human excrement on the streets by City Hall, needles on the streets, tent cities, the outbreak of diseases that long ago were eradicated. LA is a mess right now, and so is the state of USC football. PSU, on the other hand, is in one of the two strongest and popular conferences in the country, has one of the largest fanbases in the country, is on prime time games almost every other week, and is as strong as it's been since the early 1990s.
A
anon_xdc8rmuek44eq
Guest
"It was obvious to me right away that this place could be something really special," Franklin said. "It was really about the people. I was blown away by the people. Really, I was in a situation where I didn't really have to take a job. I had a pretty good situation. It was going to take something really special to get me to jump on board."
James Franklin after being hired at Vanderbilt
Things more likely to happen in 2019-2020 than CJF leaving PSU for a job at USC...
in order of more likely to happen to less likely to happen:
There's a reason these articles happen, and the reason has nothing to do with an actual competent reporter, who has decades of built-relationships with athletic departments, coaching staffs, and coaching agent circles, and who gets a tip or a lead and then spends days buttoning down multiple sources on the story and doing actual boots-on-the-ground leg work...before going to "print."
in order of more likely to happen to less likely to happen:
- Urban Meyer to USC
- Urban Meyer to Tennessee
- Urban Meyer to Georgia
- Urban Meyer to UCLA
- Lincoln Riley to the NFL
- Jim Harbaugh retiring from football coaching
- Rick Day to the NFL
- Jim Harbuagh doing a social media campaign where he doesn't shave until his favorite HS recruit commits to Michigan
- James Franklin to the Steelers
- The President giving up his Twitter account
- CJF to USC
There's a reason these articles happen, and the reason has nothing to do with an actual competent reporter, who has decades of built-relationships with athletic departments, coaching staffs, and coaching agent circles, and who gets a tip or a lead and then spends days buttoning down multiple sources on the story and doing actual boots-on-the-ground leg work...before going to "print."
I am told that Franklin and his family like the relative serenity of State College and he is not a fan of heavy traffic. He has no ties to the west coast. I could see him going south possible but not west.
A
anon_xdc8rmuek44eq
Guest
What ties does Meyer have? He could certainly end up there. Sure, Franklin may be PSU 4 LIFE but the excuses for why he wouldn't take a job like USC are pretty unremarkable. Traffic? No personal ties? How about, you can recruit Top 3 nationally every year and only have to beat Stanford or Oregon to win a Pac 12 championship?
What amazes me about these annual articles is the perception of PSU by some of these writers. Right now, PSU is a top 5-7 job in the country. Why do some writers view it like a mid-table Big 10 or SEC job when it's anything but. If anything, it's a small notch below OSU, which IMO is a top 3 job right now, and you would never hear speculation about the OSU coach taking another job. Moreover, there is nothing to connect Coach James to USC in any way.
Yeah, I've heard Fumi absolutely loves the school district. They are big on education.
You can never say never, but with what Franklin has set up with this team (#5 now, 8 sophs or frosh starting on offense) I'd be surprised if he walks away now. If he wants to win a national championship, Penn State can get there in the next 2 to 3 years.
Not true. USC is LOADED right now with talent. Here's 247's Composite roster ratings based on previous recruiting rankings. There's Alabama, OSU, and Georgia clearly alone at the top but look who's no 4. USC will attract many big name coaches.
https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/CollegeTeamTalentComposite/
A
anon_xdc8rmuek44eq
Guest
He makes less than Harbaugh and Jeff Brohm this year.
How about Harbaugh after he's sh*t canned? That would be pretty good.
Is this is really all you think of when you think of LA, you need to get out more...
This will happen when I crap car keys and have a dick tree growing in my backyard.
Latest posts
-
-
-
FB Recruiting Running Recruit Visitors List (2025 Spring Edition)- Latest: NittanyNation51
-
FB Recruiting Commit Fit: How the top 2025 DBs fit with their future programs
- Latest: NittanyNation51