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And thus the CJF to USC rumors swirl

Swirling rumors indeed

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I've said all along.....it isn't about keeping some whining fanboys happy. It is really about keeping Coach Franklin happy here. I hope he is here for a long, long time and he (IMO) has earned what should be overwhelming support.
Not a bunch of I support him buts.........

So you're a more of an Emperor Wearing No Clothes kind of guy?
 
While from what I know about franklin and his families comfort in State College and what he has said to me and my wife personally, I don’t see him leaving.

That said can or will USC pay up for a big name coach? They haven’t in the past. Their culture needs rebuilt. My understanding is that their facilities are not in the top tier either.
 
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I would drive to Texas to pick up Matt Rhule and bring him home.

Nothing against Franklin. I think Rhule is every bit the Coach Franklin is and then some.

I also think Franklin will go wherever he thinks it is best for Franklin. Nothing wrong with that, I’d do the same thing. I have heard too many coaches preach they are with family, only to take a job somewhere else soon thereafter.
 
USC hires Penn State coach James Franklin to replace Clay Helton
Few in the industry would be surprised to see Franklin as USC's next head coach. Meyer's return is no guarantee, and he might not be the preferred choice of new USC president Carol Folt.

Franklin has a very good team at Penn State and momentum in recruiting. He's a "Pennsylvania boy with a Penn State heart," as he famously said at his PSU introduction. But he also wants to win a national championship. If Penn State loses to Ohio State for the third consecutive year, and the Buckeyes win their third consecutive league title, Franklin could bolt for USC. Coaches crave access and USC has more -- both in recruiting and for the playoff -- than Penn State.


Oklahoma's loss opens door for CFP debate over one-loss teams
If the Penn State job opens, the candidate pool would be excellent. Four names immediately jump out: Baylor coach Matt Rhule (a former Penn State linebacker), Iowa State coach Matt Campbell, Mississippi State coach Joe Moorhead and Cincinnati coach Luke Fickell.

Rhule recently received a contract extension at Baylor, but I'm told it wouldn't prohibit him from a move like Penn State, where he'd be a home-run hire. Moorhead, who shined as Penn State's offensive coordinator in 2016 and 2017, must turn things around with the Bulldogs but still has strong support among key Penn State people. Campbell, still one of the more talked-about candidates in the country, is ultimately a better fit closer to his home state of Ohio. Fickell has Cincinnati headed toward its second straight double-digit win season. He also has recruited Pennsylvania for years.

The best part about this nonsense is that they assume USC, which has been a fairly average program for decades, except for Petey's stint, will have its pick of Top Tier HCs, however, if Franklin left PSU, the best 4 names they come up with are 2nd tier coaches, including an Ohio State guy who was a senior asst during Tressel's now disgraced run and Urban's run which we all knew deep down would end poorly.
 
Why would he leave? Seriously? He’s making great money, has a good fan base, building name recognition, huge budget, nice facilities, etc.
 
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Why would he leave? Seriously? He’s making great money, has a good fan base, building name recognition, huge budget, nice facilities, etc.
He makes good money, but don’t think he and his representatives don’t know that Jeff Brohm makes more. He’s in line for a nice extension and raise after what his team seems to be putting together this season. He’s a top ten coach who isn’t making top ten money.
 
what am I missing here:

the one article clearly states in the headline that it is a hypothetical scenario.

The second is a screen shot from a fake account.

back off the ledge, back off the ledge.

By the way, this team has the potential to be pre-season top 5 next year. If big game james ups and leaves there will be PLENTY of interested candidates. JFF won't be leaving the cupboard bare.
 
Its good to know If Franklin does leave PSU has an outstanding replacement like Rhule at Baylor ready to step in. What would suck is if Harbaugh leaves a year before Franklin, and Michigan goes after Rhule, which could very well happen.
 
He makes good money, but don’t think he and his representatives don’t know that Jeff Brohm makes more. He’s in line for a nice extension and raise after what his team seems to be putting together this season. He’s a top ten coach who isn’t making top ten money.

Does anyone here read? Brohm's number for 2019 includes $1.7mm signing bonus paid over two years. Properly allocating that, he makes about $300k less than Franklin in 2019 and 2020, and nearly $1.5mm less in 2021.
 
Its good to know If Franklin does leave PSU has an outstanding replacement like Rhule at Baylor ready to step in. What would suck is if Harbaugh leaves a year before Franklin, and Michigan goes after Rhule, which could very well happen.
My only question with Rhule is that he hasn’t shown nearly the same recruiting aptitude as Franklin. And, considering that’s the most important job of a college football coach, it’s a very legitimate area of concern.
 
What amazes me about these annual articles is the perception of PSU by some of these writers. Right now, PSU is a top 5-7 job in the country. Why do some writers view it like a mid-table Big 10 or SEC job when it's anything but. If anything, it's a small notch below OSU, which IMO is a top 3 job right now, and you would never hear speculation about the OSU coach taking another job. Moreover, there is nothing to connect Coach James to USC in any way.

If OSU is such a good job, why did they hire... whoever that guy is? the creepy looking one.
 
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Anything is possible when money is talking. And it would need to really talk for that to happen.

Ohio State is the thorn in his side. I wish the playoffs would go to eight to make it an option to get in, even without winning the league. Because he'd be winning the Pac 10 or whatever it is these days in no time.
 
Anything is possible when money is talking. And it would need to really talk for that to happen.

Ohio State is the thorn in his side. I wish the playoffs would go to eight to make it an option to get in, even without winning the league. Because he'd be winning the Pac 10 or whatever it is these days in no time.

If James can't get past tOSU soon, his personal goal of becoming the first African-American head football coach to win a national championship is something that might drive him.
 
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I mean, if you're making $8-10mm a year, and want to win a NC, I don't know that those things are on your radar. If everyone only cared about potential negative weather effects or natural disasters no one would live in Florida or Southern California.
Maybe CJF wants the ability to pay his players as per recent CALI law, and thus run afoul of the NCAA. NOT. Don't think he'd touch that potential land mine, until more is known how it'll play out.
 
Speaking of L.A., why is Chip Kelly not winning at UCLA? A few years ago he was one of the top college coaches in the country. Why was he so good at Oregon? Recruits. I'll start the rumor now. Chip Kelly to USC!
 
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Does anyone here read? Brohm's number for 2019 includes $1.7mm signing bonus paid over two years. Properly allocating that, he makes about $300k less than Franklin in 2019 and 2020, and nearly $1.5mm less in 2021.

Which is why I said ‘this year’.
 
USC hires Penn State coach James Franklin to replace Clay Helton
Few in the industry would be surprised to see Franklin as USC's next head coach. Meyer's return is no guarantee, and he might not be the preferred choice of new USC president Carol Folt.

Franklin has a very good team at Penn State and momentum in recruiting. He's a "Pennsylvania boy with a Penn State heart," as he famously said at his PSU introduction. But he also wants to win a national championship. If Penn State loses to Ohio State for the third consecutive year, and the Buckeyes win their third consecutive league title, Franklin could bolt for USC. Coaches crave access and USC has more -- both in recruiting and for the playoff -- than Penn State.


Oklahoma's loss opens door for CFP debate over one-loss teams
If the Penn State job opens, the candidate pool would be excellent. Four names immediately jump out: Baylor coach Matt Rhule (a former Penn State linebacker), Iowa State coach Matt Campbell, Mississippi State coach Joe Moorhead and Cincinnati coach Luke Fickell.

Rhule recently received a contract extension at Baylor, but I'm told it wouldn't prohibit him from a move like Penn State, where he'd be a home-run hire. Moorhead, who shined as Penn State's offensive coordinator in 2016 and 2017, must turn things around with the Bulldogs but still has strong support among key Penn State people. Campbell, still one of the more talked-about candidates in the country, is ultimately a better fit closer to his home state of Ohio. Fickell has Cincinnati headed toward its second straight double-digit win season. He also has recruited Pennsylvania for years.
Sports media conjecture...they have to have something to write about, even if they have to make it up. CA isn't the recruiting Mecca it used to be, LA is awash in pro franchises which suck up almost all of the sports oxygen (IIRC two each NFL, MLB and NBA), he is building a program which will dominate a large swath of the country...mid-Atlantic, PA/NY/NE..., and USC isn't the big deal it was 10-15 years ago. So, why would he leave???
 
The weather, the beach, blah, blah, blah.

Someone tell my why the USC job is a better HC job than Penn State. Tradition? We have that. Recent success? We have that. Devoted fan base? We have that. Sometimes it seems writers simply love to make things up.
 
The weather, the beach, blah, blah, blah.

Someone tell my why the USC job is a better HC job than Penn State. Tradition? We have that. Recent success? We have that. Devoted fan base? We have that. Sometimes it seems writers simply love to make things up.

- Recruiting
- Easier path to NC

That is it in a nutshell. I guess having your kids go there for free is a nice bonus too.
 
It's also worth noting that USC doesn't enjoy the benefit that it had in Carroll's heyday of being the only game in town for football. There was a lot of bandwagon fans that were supporting USC because it was the highest quality football being played. Now, the Rams and Chargers call LA home and it would be difficult to have a similar fanbase even with success.

And without a fanbase, they won't be able to overpay a HC to get one to come there, which would be the only reason someone like Franklin would even consider it. It ain't like the Pac-12 media deal is bringing in that much cash.
 
All else being equal USC is a more prestigious job than Penn State so this isn't crazy talk. However, all else isn't equal right now... PSU is in a way better spot.
 
USC will take five yrs to get rebuilt and win a NC.

Come again?! USC will not take "5 years to rebuild to win a NC." It's smack dab in the middle of fertile recruiting territory and they have their pick of recruits. That's not to say it would sway Franklin but thus far what's holding back USC is a coach who can manage the huge Hollywood-style egos. If Franklin wants to take it on then good luck to him. He's going to need it.
 
Why would he leave? Seriously? He’s making great money, has a good fan base, building name recognition, huge budget, nice facilities, etc.

Maybe he's disappointed that banners are being blown over the stadium before a big game talking about a prior coach? Ask O'Brien his feeling regarding that.

But, seriously, the Big Ten east is much harder to win than the Pac XII as a whole. That would be the main reason.
 
Maybe he's disappointed that banners are being blown over the stadium before a big game talking about a prior coach? Ask O'Brien his feeling regarding that.

But, seriously, the Big Ten east is much harder to win than the Pac XII as a whole. That would be the main reason.

If he's bothered by a banner asking the school to honor a coach who gave 61 years to the school, then he isn't half the coach I think he is. I think you're projecting.
 
If he's bothered by a banner asking the school to honor a coach who gave 61 years to the school, then he isn't half the coach I think he is. I think you're projecting.

Don't pretend any coach welcomes any potential distraction. I don't think he'd go to USC but that's more about his kids right now than anything else.
 
Like I've said before.... Following this board, I am led to believe that ALL of Penn State's success is due to Joe Morehead, the Founding Father of the Modern Day Offense. Franklin is barely capable of brushing his teeth and putting on his own socks..... So why wouldn't USC just go after Joe Morehead, the Inventor Of The Forward Pass ????

Imagine if we had DON. BROWN. :eek: leading the defense.
 
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