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are you a good driver- really?

are you a good driver- really?

  • yes, I am

    Votes: 73 85.9%
  • not really

    Votes: 10 11.8%
  • I'm worse than a texting teenager- there, I admit it

    Votes: 2 2.4%

  • Total voters
    85
Drivers should stick to 55 as best they can. It doesn't matter whether police start writing tickets at 56 or 70. That is not the same issue.

Good citizens don't decide which laws to break based on whether authorities are going to penalize the law-breaking. Further, good citizens don't pressure other citizens into breaking laws (such as by tailgating someone going the speed limit in a passing lane) based on enforcement practices.

I wish BWI would add a button so I can add this response whenever I want, because it's the 2nd time I've had to use it this week:

The self-righteous posters on this forum really irritate me sometimes
 
I think it's important to distinguish between venial sins and mortal sins. Venial sins might be not stopping 100% at a stop sign. Mortal sins are not watching the road (eyes on the phone) while your 2 ton car is in motion so you are putting in jeopardy other people's lives.

I am quite happy to put up with a little discourtesy -- people pulling out in front of me, or tailgating, or pushing a yellow-red light -- as long as I have the feeling that other drivers are paying attention.

When drivers are not paying attention, that's when they are putting my life at risk. And you see it in maybe 50% of drivers these days. You see people drifting lanes, driving at inappropriately low speed. All the signs of drunk drivers are also present in drivers watching videos or playing games on their phones.
 
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My cat was a good driver until he drove off a cliff.

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You left out "Do you purposely drive over the speed limit."

I did not respond because "good" is subjective. I'll admit to making some mistakes on the road, but after more than 50 years of driving I've been involved in only one minor non-reportable accident. I would classify myself as "safer than most."

I find it interesting that people think it's OK to ignore speed laws, but all other traffic signs are valid.

This is going to really piss off some of the so-called "good" drivers, but I can find absolutely no valid excuse for exceeding the speed limit, even in a passing lane. The only vehicles authorized to do so are emergency vehicles with the appropriate lights and sirens. That's it. All other explanations are just excuses emanating from people who are impatient and/or failed to budget sufficient travel time. It should be acceptable to pass in the passing lane at the speed limit unless that would be to block an emergency vehicle.

Those who speed are also those most likely to not allow sufficient following distance, i.e., they tailgate. In fact I would wager that speeds in a lot of areas should at times stay well below limits in order to sustain safe following distances.

The fact that most people exceed speed limits does not make it the right thing to do. All people commit "sins" against their fellow man. Does that make it right?
speed is relative- is 73 too fast in rush hour on the Skykill ? Probably. Is it too fast on an open I 91 in upstate Vermont? Probably not.
 
Seems to me that people take a test when they are 16 then never get tested again. But they do fall into bad habits. Or do things incorrectly because they were never taught correctly, and it wasn't on the test.

How many people, when making a left turn, cut the corner so tight they run through the oncoming traffic lane on their way into their own lane? Happens all the time, and on blind corners.

I don't see why we shouldn't sit at a computer, watch a video and answer a few questions each time we renew our license. I'm sure insurance companies would pick up the tab for the extra cost (not much per driver really). Where is the harm? Drivers might learn something they never knew, or be reminded of something they forgot.
 
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Seems to me that people take a test when they are 16 then never get tested again. But they do fall into bad habits. Or do things incorrectly because they were never taught correctly, and it wasn't on the test.

How many people, when making a left turn, cut the corner so tight they run through the oncoming traffic lane on their way into their own lane? Happens all the time, and on blind corners.

I don't see why we shouldn't sit at a computer, watch a video and answer a few questions each time we renew our license. I'm sure insurance companies would pick up the tab for the extra cost (not much per driver really). Where is the harm? Drivers might learn something they never knew, or be reminded of something they forgot.
And people that change lanes through an intersection.
 
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It doesn't matter what it "should be." What matters is what is lawful. Do you agree with all of the country's laws? And yet, you abide by many that you would not agree with, or would deem to be wrong or at best inefficient.

Drivers should stick to 55 as best they can. It doesn't matter whether police start writing tickets at 56 or 70. That is not the same issue.

Good citizens don't decide which laws to break based on whether authorities are going to penalize the law-breaking. Further, good citizens don't pressure other citizens into breaking laws (such as by tailgating someone going the speed limit in a passing lane) based on enforcement practices.

Bull$hit. You can live your life that way, but don't judge others for using their brain. Laws are not my moral compass. Never have I, and never will I, do or not do something because that's what the law says I should do (or not do).

The penalty that I might have to pay if I get caught not adhering to a law is the only consideration wrt the law. So, there are times where after weighing all the considerations, I will adhere to a law that I may not have otherwise (i.e. going 55 on a wide open straight highway where I know it is common for police to hang out) -- but the simple fact whether or not something is lawful is not a consideration.

Put another way, every time I adhere to a law, it's either because 1) My morals align with the law (often the case); or 2) The risk x cost of getting caught not adhering to the law is deemed too high.

It's never like, "welp gee, that's the law, so that's what I'll do."

And I'm absolutely the best -- safest, most efficient, and most helpful to others(*) -- driver on the road.

(*) "Helpful," for example:
1. If there is someone behind me that I'm clearly holding up, when I find a safe place to slide over and let them go around me, I do.
2. If I'm approaching a red traffic light, will be continuing straight ahead, and I've got two lanes to chose from, I won't be the first car stopped in the right lane so that I don't cause someone to have to stop and wait who would have otherwise been able to turn right and continue towards their destination.
3. If I've run out of time/roadway to get into the lane I needed to be in to turn at an intersection, I won't stop -- or even slow -- traffic to try to get to that turn lane. Without hesitation and without slowing the flow, I'll proceed past my turn, then find another way to my route.

Contributing to the overall efficiency of the flow of traffic allows people to get to their destinations sooner, and every time someone gets to their destination, that's one less car on the road. This is the mindset that every good driver has -- And it's the mindset everyone should have, IMO.
 
The poll results so far are pretty funny, because there is no way that 79% of the drivers on the road are good drivers. Now it's possible that this board has an unusually high percentage of good ones, but that seems unlikely.
Remember, you are dealing with a group that is predominately guys. It's akin to asking us if we are good in bed. Although, I would guess that an affirmative response to this would be even higher.
 
I think it's important to distinguish between venial sins and mortal sins. Venial sins might be not stopping 100% at a stop sign. Mortal sins are not watching the road (eyes on the phone) while your 2 ton car is in motion so you are putting in jeopardy other people's lives.

I am quite happy to put up with a little discourtesy -- people pulling out in front of me, or tailgating, or pushing a yellow-red light -- as long as I have the feeling that other drivers are paying attention.

When drivers are not paying attention, that's when they are putting my life at risk. And you see it in maybe 50% of drivers these days. You see people drifting lanes, driving at inappropriately low speed. All the signs of drunk drivers are also present in drivers watching videos or playing games on their phones.

I get what you are saying. But as a pedestrian I have almost been hit multiple times by drivers who don't stop "100%". They are craning their necks in one direction to see if traffic is coming and then make a right hand turn without noticing that I am crossing the street in their path.

A lot of the venial driving sins, speeding on a highway, blowing through a yellow/red light, opening your driver door into traffic, etc (I am certainly guilty here of some of these as well), can sometimes result in serious injury.
 
On a totally empty highway, I am the best driver you ever saw. Any kind of serious traffic and I am a disaster.
 
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