Arrington: PSU-Pitt series "I love it .... a beautiful thing"
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We disagree. I don't have the need or the right to request you stop posting your opinions to a thread on this board so please afford me the same courtesy.
You might know little or you might know plenty. I can hang with most so I am not in awe.
Scheduling Idaho in 2019 was inevitable given that PSU only has four conference home games. With ASWP locked in for four year, that leaves PSU with one slot.. Lot of flexibility there.
Where do you get off assuming that I respected you in the first place?
Douchenozzle, it's not what I want, it's what the PSU AD want. They scheduled Idaho, not me. They articulated a policy of having seven home games, during a time when the department was actually making money. And BTW, Big Ten teams aren't allowed to schedule.\FCS schools.
So listen up, jackwagon. Since you've got such a thorough handle on what's best for PSU, why don't you direct your efforts toward that empty suit that masquerades as an AD and persuade her of the need to play ASWP. Those of us with any sense are lost causes.
You apparently like non-competitive, money-losing engagements. Why does this not surprise me.
Now that's funny. How anyone can make that kind of a statement is beyond believable. "Pitt is the love you never should have left" Bwahahahaha!
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anon_is9z1n0h3zblb
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That's a bizarre analogy. I've more considered Pitt (and especially Pitt fans) like a psycho and bitter ex-girlfriend. We broke up and began a much better and stable relationship when they screwed us over. Screwing us over was a massive mistake on their part that began, for them, a slow spiral into oblivion. They were forced into a much less successful and satisfying relationship, all the while pretending that it was still as good as what we have, but at the same time blaming us for all the bad things that happened to them that were of our own making. And we became an unhealthy obsession where our failures brought them much more pleasure than their miniscule successes. Their message boards are the equivalent of a wall with photos of PSU players and coaches with the eyes scratched out with a knife.
What amazes me is some of us want to get back together with the psycho when there are much better options available. And after the break up, the psycho got fat, slovenly, and brings absolutely nothing to the relationship.
Respect is earned, not given. You my friend are a long way off.
I requested you stop wasting our time, not that you stop posting. Interesting that you take them to be one in the same.
You don't know the history behind "guarding the lion", which destroys you idea that Pitt has been our only rival ever. It's not like it's some obscure story.
Very well put, describes the relationship perfectly.
I like the fact that we are playing Pitt for the next 4 years. 4 years might be a bit long but it is what it is. I would not make another contract with them at this time. Once we beat them during the next years we will be in the best negotiating position. We will be the ones making them money. What will we get out of it? locking the recruiting door that already seems fairly shut in Western PA. Not enough.
To play them long term they will need to give us the bigger split because we are strong enough to do so and they owe us that money from when they we strong enough to get it out of us.
If we don't get a better split then no new games after we beat them 4 in a row. The door will be locked by then.
We are and we will. Beat PITT!
To play them long term they will need to give us the bigger split because we are strong enough to do so and they owe us that money from when they we strong enough to get it out of us.
If we don't get a better split then no new games after we beat them 4 in a row. The door will be locked by then.
We are and we will. Beat PITT!
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However, right now neither program gains much national attention when mentioned with the teams listed. Someday and you sooner rather than us will be there but right now this game would garner just as much national attention.
Actually, I don't think about you at all, except when this subject comes up, and you keep up the crap about how great the series was and should be again. It was a good series between 1974 and 1986, and I'm stretching that time period.
Further, I have no problem with a true rivalry and the ball busting that goes along with it. This is different. I was in Pittsburgh with my daughters and wife for the last game. It was not anything within the parameters of a rivalry. It was mean, nasty and intimidating as it gets. With my buddies, there is a different outcome that day, outside the stadium. With wife and daughters, lots of vulgarity and bullying type behavior had to be swallowed. Puck Fitt.
Excellent job answering his question... again. Apparently he needed you to summarize what has already been said many times. I want to know why Pitt fans want to play PSU so bad, why can't they let it go? I mean, I know why, I just want to hear what BS he comes up with.
Lavar feels this way because he was brought up in Pittsburgh and developed a love for the hometown college. Nothing wrong with that, and then saw the light that Penn State was the real deal in PA. I am from Philly but lived a few years in Pittsburgh. I for one also think we should play Pitt every year, but ONLY if Pitt becomes a B!G team. If not, they just create a nuisance towards winning the MNC as Pitt players will always play their hardest against us as they know they are the #2 team in PA.
If this post evoked such an explosive response already, than it says a lot for how people fee about renewing our rivalry against Pitt. I think that some here think that playing them every year again may steal some talented HS recruits over to Pitt. Don't fear that, the better team will win! living on both sides of PA, I for one think it would be great to play Pitt again on a regular basis.
Lavar feels this way because he was brought up in Pittsburgh and developed a love for the hometown college. Nothing wrong with that, and then saw the light that Penn State was the real deal in PA. I am from Philly but lived a few years in Pittsburgh. I for one also think we should play Pitt every year, but hope that they will some day become a B1G team. Pitt players will always play their hardest against us as they know they are the #2 team in PA. We play Temple every year, so why not Pitt?
PSU does not play Temple after the 2016 season. With a nine game conference schedule going forward, playing any team long-term (longer than four years) is simply imprudent.
Like I said your entitled to your opinion as am I but for you to take it to the level you did was surprising to me. We just are disagreeing on an issue, that's all.
Just countering an analogy with another one. Hahahahahahahahahahhaha.
So don't go to the game if you are afraid. I don't put myself in vulnerable positions so pick your spots but just because you are afraid to go and I am not does not make you right. All the fans are not as bad as some here have claimed.Guarding the lion is not new to me but Pitt is the team that almost everybody agrees is the Lions traditional rival. Hey I did not start this thread. I am just giving my opinion without malice unless I am attacked. I will go scores of games, big plays in games and where the venue was one on one with you anytime.I am not the most knowledgeable but I can hang with most.
Better than playing Temple San Diego St and Army Our schedule is pathetic We will never make a playoff playing teams like we are currently scheduling
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People use to have a tradition of throwing virgins into volcanoes. Luckily those ended just like the Pitt/Penn State rivalry. The past is the past. Give up your flip phone and fax machine and get with new program.
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Once again, a home and home with Pitt vs one and dones with the teams you named is a false equivalency. If Pitt wants to come to Happy Valley for a one and done for the price that we are paying those teams and we say No, then you have a point. Also, SDSU is a better game than Pitt, and by the end of the year Temple will probably be rated higher than B5. You are, however, right about we will never impress the selection committee playing a mediocre team that can't even go above .500 in the weakest division of the P5 teams.
Just give it up, you are all over the map here. First you say you don't put yourself in vulnerable positions, then you say you are not afraid to go. Make up your mind... which is it? Never mind that I didn't say I was afraid to go to the game, I already have Pitt season tickets to ensure my tickets next year. Why are you making stuff up? Also you only seem to want to address game day. What about the 365 other days next year that some of us have to live amongst the Pitt fans? That's fine as long as selfish old SEPATOPTEN gets his 3.5 hour football game to watch from afar.
How would you know how the fans act, you don't put yourself in vulnerable positions, and you don't live nearby? Why does it even matter, it only takes percentage of bad fans to over shadow the good ones... so just more pointless distraction from you.
Back pedal! now that you've consulted google, guarding the lion is not new to you. So you've gone from "The Pitt - Penn State game was the only rivalry game PSU has ever had" to " Pitt is the team that almost everybody agrees is the Lions traditional rival". Can't win the current argument, so you tried to change it? Did you think we wouldn't notice? We are all much smarter than you. In a contest of PSU football knowledge, you'd need to do more than "just hang", I would f&cking crush you.
Everyone knows your opinion, no one cares, and no one wants to hear it again. You are simply here to troll.
You are absolutely correct. All these naysayers act like we've had 'loaded' OOC opponents for years, and that this ancient rivalry is 'below' us. How the heck do we constantly get Buffalo?? And the genius AD just scheduled Potato U, and it's not even Boise State. Yeah, the Pitt idea is a real step down.
State's rivals are OSU, Michigan and Sparty to win any kind of hardware! Do we need anymore rivals than that? Osu #1, Sparty #6 and um with Harbaugh the talk of fastest comeback to elite status ever! Take care of the B1GEast and we can schedule whoever!
That's not the argument I'm making, and it's not the argument most here are making. Sure, Pitt would be better than Temple, or Buffalo, or Army. But Pitt would not be better than LSU, USC, Texas, or dozens of other schools with higher national profile than Pitt. If we are going to do a home and home, why not try to schedule Georgia? Why not talk to the AD at Florida State. If other national names turn us down, we have Pitt. We can always get Pitt. Instead of Pitt coming to town in 2017, imagine if it were USC or Texas. Pitt, as a rivalry, is dead, and Pitt, as a national power, is on life support. We can do better.
Not only is it on life support now, it barely ever existed. We can do much better.
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Once again, comparing a home and home with Pitt to a one and done with Idaho, as much as they suck, is a false equivalency. If you want to complain about Idaho, complain that we're unable, or unwilling to pay, for a game with a decent mid major, like Northern Illinois, Houston, Louisiana Tech or even Georgia Southern. Only the most delusional PSU fan will defend out scheduling, but having a mediocre team like PItt on our schedule for 4 years is part of the problem. I'm actually happy about San Diego State in that they actually have a pulse, which is better than any of the other stiffs we've scheduled in the past 5 years..
I'm done repeating that we have teams that we want to beat... in fact, there is no one else that I would rather beat than the Buckeyes... but to suggest that they are our rivals... well I guess to some extent they are the way we used to have rivalries against WVU and Syracuse. The truth was that everyone knows that they consider Michigan as there number one rival. We used to have a rival and whether you admit it, understand it, or acknowledge it... it was Pitt. Rutgers & Maryland would like to elevate our game to be that type of rivalry, but I just don't see it happening anytime soon.
I can live with what you are saying as far as scheduling a decent team... however, as an old timer... I miss having a true rival... I doubt very much that either Rutgers or Maryland will ever turn into the rivalry that we used to have with Pitt. I grew up with it and for most years it was something to look forward to at the end of the season. As I stated earlier, unless you went to school before 1986, you probably have no appreciation for the series. The 1981 game (48-14) is still one of my all time favorites. I'm sorry but I would much rather play Pitt than a San Diego State, Temple, etc. I don't care who is the better team! Just like Georgia plays Georgia Tech every year... playing Pitt and beating them would mean a lot more to me than playing one of the other duds that we seem to be scheduling.
Gotta love this crap. "If you don't agree with me, you don't understand college football."
I don't agree with you, you arrogant ass.
I know a guy who was an assistant coach at the FBS level for 4 years before taking a highly paid sales position to better support his family. He did not coach, or play, at either Pitt or Penn State, so he does not have a dog in the hunt. He does not agree with Lavar. The next time I see him I will be sure to tell him that TCFA-Nit says he does not understand the college game. I am sure he will be amused.
I will add, from my own perspective, that making such an intransigent statement on an issue which can easily, and effectively, be argued either way, makes you look foolish.
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Apparently MSU, UM and OSU disagree. Looking at a sampling of their future OOC schedules they are planning to do (at least some years) what you say PSU does not need to do:
OSU ---> Oregon St/TCU ---- ND/Texas ---- ND/Texas/BC
UM ----> Utah/OregonSt/BYU ------ Florida/Cincy/AirForce ---- VT/Washington
Mich St --> BYU/ND ---- BYU/Miami
What does any of that have to do with playing Pitt? Also many have advocated playing schools such as those you listed and have done so in this very thread. Are you too lazy to read or do you just ignore those posts?
Apparently you couldn't take time to read the post I was replying to, which said since PSU plays MSU, UM and OSU we don't have to schedule anyone OOC,
The 2017 Michigan-Florida game is neutral site in Jerrah World by invitation only. I think PSU would accept a one-and-done $6mm payout, but nobody has offered.
