Beau Pribula's transfer shines spotlight on NCAA's calendar conflict
Penn State backup quarterback Beau Pribula announced his decision to transfer on Sunday.
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A couple of thoughts:
I'd like to see Adam Friedman discuss this topic with Matt Hayes from USA Today (linked in a post in another thread).
I've yet to see anyone, including Friedman, make a proposal that would rectify this situation. Maybe there is a proposal out there that I have missed .....
I'd like to see Adam Friedman discuss this topic with Matt Hayes from USA Today (linked in a post in another thread).
I've yet to see anyone, including Friedman, make a proposal that would rectify this situation. Maybe there is a proposal out there that I have missed .....
I'm with Matt Hayes on this one--Beau had options--this was the one he picked
No hard feelings toward Beau but he's not a victim here
No hard feelings toward Beau but he's not a victim here
There is no good solution to this and the problem is because of university academic calendars that are not going to change nor should they. For schools on a semester system I believe classes start around Jan 15-20. For those on a quarter system it could be a little earlier. Therefore you cannot wait until mid January to say you are in the portal then take a couple weeks to decide and finally show up on the new campus at the end of Jan. That also means you are late to winter workouts. Those schools not in the playoffs will have had a month of winter workouts by then.
If you push the portal window to say Jan 21- Feb 15 or whatever but right after the playoffs then the transfers could not be an enrolled student until the summer. They would miss that second semester of winter conditioning and spring practice.
I can't think of a solution. Keep it as is and just stay with your current team until the end of the playof run. Not good at all but what else can you do. No school is going to take a student a month after classes start. The only thing I can think of is you give these football transfers an exception and let them enroll late then give them tutors and have them take a very limited course load like only one class or two and try to catch up. That is not a good solve and puts a burden on all involved.
I guess you could just show up in the summer and hope you can be ready by the fall. I don't think though you can even legally show them the playbook and have them talking to coaches until you are an official student. You definitely can't be formally participating in workouts with the new team if not a registered student taking classes.
If you push the portal window to say Jan 21- Feb 15 or whatever but right after the playoffs then the transfers could not be an enrolled student until the summer. They would miss that second semester of winter conditioning and spring practice.
I can't think of a solution. Keep it as is and just stay with your current team until the end of the playof run. Not good at all but what else can you do. No school is going to take a student a month after classes start. The only thing I can think of is you give these football transfers an exception and let them enroll late then give them tutors and have them take a very limited course load like only one class or two and try to catch up. That is not a good solve and puts a burden on all involved.
I guess you could just show up in the summer and hope you can be ready by the fall. I don't think though you can even legally show them the playbook and have them talking to coaches until you are an official student. You definitely can't be formally participating in workouts with the new team if not a registered student taking classes.
I guess if the school has some classes that start mid semester or whatever then you could do something like that but again it seems totally forced. I am majoring in x but the only classes available starting on March 1 are y so I guess I will take those.
We haven't had trimesters for a long time either.
I hadn't spent a lot of time thinking about it but off of the top of my head, it would resolve that end of semester timing issue.
Just trying to think of a simple solution. Probably not realistic because the logistical nightmare that it would create at every school.
The best solution is to keep it as is and stay with the team. Players would understand. The problem with that is you can't really focus that well on your duties as a backup QB or whatever while trying to find a new landing spot. At least you could try to do both. Are they allowed to have agents now? I hope so. Have the agent to all the leg work and then the player show up to the visits. For example, with Beau if he stayed with the team he is going through practice as normal. At some point in his free time after practice he meets with his agent daily or every other day and they discuss options and the status. He could go on a visit next Sunday or Monday then come back with the team then another visit maybe on a off day around Christmas? I don't know. Really not great but you don't have a choice.
Yes--they all have agents for NIL
And he has a choice--he made his choice which would be respected if he owned it instead of blaming the NCAA
You can't fix spring semester starting in January.
I hate to say it but if I'm the coach that is recruiting you to be my QB1 next year and I'm offering you NIL $ beyond your scholarship, then I am not going to want my new investment to continue to risk becoming injured.
What happens to their agreement if an injury occurs?
Yep, there is no good solution, but contrary to what LoadoInTheCommodo continues to try and claim, the NCAA's current Portal deadlines do not put all student-athletes on the same footing.... If you play for a team that makes the CFP Playoffs, you're at a big disadvantage to student-athletes whose teams didn't make the Playoffs and seasons are over.
The other thing that makes zero sense imho, is that a player graduating from his current institution, but still has eligibility remaining has to enter in the NCAA's "Transfer Portal" whatsoever - they aren't "transferring", they're enrolling in a new institution for a completely different degree program. Players who have graduated from their current Institution should be completely exempt from registering in something labeled the "Transfer Portal" by the NCAA. Beau should be allowed to apply for enrollment in his new school (whose new semester doesn't start until the 3rd week of January like you said - i.e., his enrollment isn't effective until late January), while still playing for his current school as his participation is based upon his Fall Enrollment and the new Semester is not going to start until a month+ from now). Making a player who will be graduating from his existing school register in a "transfer portal" is beyond moronic but par for the course with the "we penalize student-athletes - our supposed primary constituency - not help them" NCAA. Beyond pathetic.
The only ACTUAL solution is to shorten the college football season.
But that won't happen because money rules all.
Expecting transferring kids to commit to another school, but still play for their current school could end up with the following hypothetical situation: QB1 for FBU1 is enrolled in, taking classes at, and receiving $$$ from the NIL collective of, FBU2 in Oregon. He's doing this while he's practicing with FBU1 in Pennsylvania, leading FBU1 in the National Championship Game against ... FBU2.
But that won't happen because money rules all.
Expecting transferring kids to commit to another school, but still play for their current school could end up with the following hypothetical situation: QB1 for FBU1 is enrolled in, taking classes at, and receiving $$$ from the NIL collective of, FBU2 in Oregon. He's doing this while he's practicing with FBU1 in Pennsylvania, leading FBU1 in the National Championship Game against ... FBU2.
Hayes does not have all the facts. He has zero quotes from Pribula.
Did you or Hayes ever walk away from millions? Is that a legit option?
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No. They can shorten the off season. If it is shortened for EVERYONE then there is not advantage or disadvantage.
The problem from my POV is the destination schools want the kids on their campus asap. That prevents the player from finishing out his playoff season. The destination school can be offering millions so they have leverage.
Schools are already offering kids who are currently on other teams rosters.
Can a school offer a kid who is playing for their next playoff opponent?
Who offer Beau millions?
If someone did he should be thanking the NCAA not criticizing them
Players won't go for that...
No matter what they do some will be unhappy
Look at the number of people in the portal right now....why are they going through spring practice just to transfer?
Imagine Beau...he stayed this year believing he'd start here in 2025...he has to stay through the spring...will almost definitely start the year as backup....if the starter keeps his job and returns he's in the same spot in 2026 and may never get a shot.
Unless the season starts mid August there's no solution
LOL. They already start playing games in August ... you want them to start in mid-July to fit the playoffs in before the portal opens up?
No clue what you're trying to say with wanting them on campus asap. The semester starts in January. You have to give kids and schools an opportunity to select each other, and then have the kid enroll in school before it actually starts.
They talk before hey are in the portal. One kid had a do not contact the day he went in the portal. Explain that.
Well, therein lies the problem. While everyone was busy trying to screw over the kids ... making as much money as possible off of them, with each subsequent update to the operating model being "how can we make more money for ourselves ... screw the players," they never bothered to create an adequate contingency plan, if there was an uprising and the kids suddenly broke their chains and demanded rights. They were too busy salivating over new TV money, and all the ways they could exploit that, to even see what was happening.
And now we even have folks criticizing the kids, yet again, in this thread. The folks making billions upon billions off these kid's efforts put together a shoddy, piecemeal system to deal with the after-effects of their own negligence and malfeasance, and when kids act within its parameters, it's ... "Eff them kids" as the mantra (to some). A bunch of Sandusky-wannabes up in here.
If you gave actual details of what you're talking about, I may or may not be able to explain whatever it is you're talking about. Until then, I definitely can't explain it.
They don't have to start sooner, genius. I already explained how to shorten the season. Eliminate conference championships, go down to 8 teams in the playoff and eliminate playoff byes. That shortens the season by 3 weeks.
A school is not permitted to offer an athlete playing for another team. A player OTOH (especially one graduating) is absolutely allowed to contact prospective schools about their interest.
They are not reducing the number of teams in the playoffs. Never going to happen. In 5 years it will be 16 and within 10-15 up to 24. CCG will be a thing of the past in a few years.
I still don't understand why Beau has to register with a "Transfer Portal" when he isn't transferring - he is apparently graduating this semester; he isn't transferring, he's enrolling in a brand new institution. This still might be a problem if his post-graduation institution makes any offer contingent upon enrolling in their Winter/Spring Semester and their Semester starts before PSU is finished in the Playoffs (but many schools start 3rd Week of January or later, so it may not be a problem). In any event, it is beyond absurd that someone who has graduated (but still has eligibility) has to register with a "Transfer Portal - that makes no sense whatsoever.
To recap:
I stated the only actual solution is to shorten the college football season.
You say "no, no ... you can also shorten the offseason."
I suggest it would be folly to shorten the offseason, and ask how they would do that ... for instance, start in July?
You say "hey, dummy ... don't shorten the offseason (even though I just said to do so) ... they can shorten the college football season (like you just suggested, and I took issue with). Yer sew stoopit!"
Unbelievable.
How quickly do see a lawsuit if the only portal was in April/May?
Within 3 minutes? The courts would rule so quickly on that we'd probably end of with the portal is illegal and they can transfer any day they want
They are not reducing the number of teams in the playoffs. Never going to happen. In 5 years it will be 16 and within 10-15 up to 24. CCG will be a thing of the past in a few years.
