He had a phenomenal career. As a Steelers fan, you are blessed. You could be a Browns fan like me. It has been pretty lean for about 55 years. On the other hand, we have Baker.I know as a Steelers fan I should care about this but I really don't. Maybe it's because he stuck around a year maybe 2 too long or maybe it's because he isn't the "best" person or maybe it's just because it would be better for the Steelers to lose tonight. Either way I'm looking forward to him moving on. He had a HOF career but the ending is just...anticlimactic.
I agree. The Steelers have been very fortunate with having Big Ben for nearly 2 decades.He had a phenomenal career. As a Steelers fan, you are blessed. You could be a Browns fan like me. It has been pretty lean for about 55 years. On the other hand, we have Baker.
Hard to take a RB with the 1st pick in the draft. As good as Barkley was. At the time I wanted them to take Allen. Baker is too short as he is again demonstrating tonite. He has as many batted passes as completions.I agree. The Steelers have been very fortunate with having Big Ben for nearly 2 decades.
All I wanted for the 2018 NFL draft was for the Browns to take Baker and not Saquon. I'm glad it worked out the way it has as a Steelers fan. Hopefully, for your sake, Cleveland gets rid of Baker after this season.
I would say they are winning in spite of him. He has thrown 41 passes for only 123 yards, which is almost hard to believe.Not a a #7 jersey wearing type guy but good to see Ben looking sharp tonight. 1st ballot HOF'er although no doubt a #tier below the guys after Brady tier- Montana, Unitas, Rodgers etc.
Speaking of jerseys I'm thinking about my son's privelege of having Parsons amd Watt gear and those two being a coin toss for DPOY.
I was a big fan or Darnold and Allen. Won't lie I probably would have gone with Darnold at 1 because of the level of competition and I prefer pure drop back passers. Allen's definitely the best QB in that class though IMO. Lamar is second.Hard to take a RB with the 1st pick in the draft. As good as Barkley was. At the time I wanted them to take Allen. Baker is too short as he is again demonstrating tonite. He has as many batted passes as completions.
Again, you are very lucky to have the Steelers organization. The Browns are garbage, have been for most of the last 6 decades. Oh well.I was a big fan or Darnold and Allen. Won't lie I probably would have gone with Darnold at 1 because of the level of competition and I prefer pure drop back passers. Allen's definitely the best QB in that class though IMO. Lamar is second.
And, yes, tons of balls batted down tonight.
Hard to take a RB with the 1st pick in the draft. As good as Barkley was. At the time I wanted them to take Allen. Baker is too short as he is again demonstrating tonite. He has as many batted passes as completions.
Agreed but the Browns played into our strength. I don't understand what they were doing. They needed to pound the ball with Chubb early and often. Baker's 1-10 start (not all his fault) killed them.If the Steelers played all season with this intensity they would have locked up the playoffs a week or two ago. Especially the D which brought their A game.
I know as a Steelers fan I should care about this but I really don't. Maybe it's because he stuck around a year maybe 2 too long or maybe it's because he isn't the "best" person or maybe it's just because it would be better for the Steelers to lose tonight. Either way I'm looking forward to him moving on. He had a HOF career but the ending is just...anticlimactic.
I will say the Browns game plan was awful today but even when Baker had time he indecisive and inaccurate. He's just not capable of being an elite or even above average QB.
As I said earlier I didn't care about it being Ben's last game but I'm glad he got the final kneel down and the emotion he showed at the end was nice. Now the Steelers just need to beat Baltimore and get help from Jacksonville lol
Yeah, props to Ben for a great career and he dominated the Browns over the years.Nice to see Ben go out this way. That last TD by Harris was sweet.
Sir yacht posted that he congratulated Ben on his twenty years of browns ownership.
Not a huge Ben fan as a leader or role model, but he was at his best holding onto the ball looking down field till the last second, shedding defenders and finding open receivers. that's why his sack total was so high. He was courageous in the pocket, especially in his prime.Could be end of the road.
Hassenauer and leglue at C and LG were huge improvements on the OL last night. Moore will be ok at OT, green can be the backup interior lineman for now and then they have chuks, banner and dotson. Depending on what's there at pick 16 or so, they can get an OL or a run stuffing NTYeah, props to Ben for a great career and he dominated the Browns over the years.
And major props to the young running back Najee Harris
A little more help from the O-line, and he can become one of the best RBs in the league
- His big game vs the Browns pushed him to 1,172 yards on the season
- His yards after contact were terrific
- Despite some difficult games and a below standard O-line, he managed to avg. 4 yds/carry on the year
- Also a threat as a receiver -- caught 70 passes
- 296 carries -- 0 fumbles
Hassenauer has improved -- thought he was awful last yearHassenauer and leglue at C and LG were huge improvements on the OL last night. Moore will be ok at OT, green can be the backup interior lineman for now and then they have chuks, banner and dotson. Depending on what's there at pick 16 or so, they can get an OL or a run stuffing NT
Yeah, could be, but it's hard to bet against the Steelers being at least decent.For my next prediction, the Steelers will be in for some tough days and years ahead. The division is flush with good, young QBs and good coaches. Finding the next quality QB is job one and not an easy one. And I am not sure Tomlin is the coach he was ten years ago.
Pittsburgh Dad said after the tie with Detroit....”Leave it to the Steelers to find a way to go eight and eight in a seventeen game schedule!”Yeah, could be, but it's hard to bet against the Steelers being at least decent.
After their 1-3 start, who believed they would still be relevant in the last couple weeks of the season? And Tomlin continues his streak of non-losing seasons--pretty clever to work in a tie in this 17-game format
Both he and Ben could have used some help from the OL this year!A little more help from the O-line, and he can become one of the best RBs in the league
Lots of speculation in CLE that the play calling and prep for Mayfield was so bad that the coach wanted him to fail to get rid of him. I don't agree with this. I think Mayfield is very damaged, physically, that the Browns RT is horrible (he's really the third team tackle and the rest of the OL is so banged up they couldn't double team) and the Steelers simply were really motivated in BB's last home game. Either way, lots and lots of angst in CLE.Both he and Ben could have used some help from the OL this year!
Well, looked like the coach wanted Baker to get fried. Should have had either a back or tight end help slow down Watt. Announcers were shocked the Browns made no adjustments.Lots of speculation in CLE that the play calling and prep for Mayfield was so bad that the coach wanted him to fail to get rid of him. I don't agree with this. I think Mayfield is very damaged, physically, that the Browns RT is horrible (he's really the third team tackle and the rest of the OL is so banged up they couldn't double team) and the Steelers simply were really motivated in BB's last home game. Either way, lots and lots of angst in CLE.
Browns should have just kept pounding the ball on the ground. The Steeler D would have broke eventually.Well, looked like the coach wanted Baker to get fried. Should have had either a back or tight end help slow down Watt. Announcers were shocked the Browns made no adjustments.
Agreed. Word is that Chubb had some bad ribs but didn't disclose it pregame. The second team guy was a game time scratch after being out for several weeks with a bad ankle. So they were down to the third team back who has played well but this restricts the plays available. CLE can't overreact. They've had a really tough stretch of games with weird schedules. Ravens, Raiders, Green Bay, Steelers.Browns should have just kept pounding the ball on the ground. The Steeler D would have broke eventually.
They were eliminated from the playoffs before the game started. Playing to lose and get a higher draft choice?Browns should have just kept pounding the ball on the ground. The Steeler D would have broke eventually.
very possible. They also hoped to have their first and second-team RBs and ended up having neither by the second half. Apparently, Chubb had bad ribs. They expected to have Kareem Hunt back but he was a game-day scratch.They were eliminated from the playoffs before the game started. Playing to lose and get a higher draft choice?
I hope so.....something Pittsburgh NEVER does.They were eliminated from the playoffs before the game started. Playing to lose and get a higher draft choice?
Maybe they will trade up.I hope so.....something Pittsburgh NEVER does.
The History of Tomlin says be good enough to be in the playoff hunt until the season ends but not be bad enough to get a difference maker in the draft.
With the 17th pick on the NFL Draft the Pittsburgh Steelers again take some unknown CB from the University of Miami.
Well said. He was sort of a punk 20 years ago - but he grew up. I think it's unfair to judge him on ancient history.I know Ben had his transgressions early in his career, but hasn’t he mellowed out over the years? All of the character issues people alluding to are a decade old at least, right? I have come to like the older, wiser Ben more so than the wild party animal he was when drafted.
Punter - yes! Big mistake to let Jordan Berry go.Ben was kind of a jack-wad early in his career, and maybe the stuff now is a bit fake, but the way he could throw guys off, extend plays, and make plays downfield was amazing. He was a winner. Never a losing record. This team is not very good and they are still not eliminated. The next few year could be rough if they don't play it well.
That being said...... that is the Najee I thought he was. Just needs a few holes. The Center was a big improvement. You know who else was a big improvement? The punter.