I mean, he's right though. The NFL has absolutely no incentive to have a minor league system. I'm sure the NHL would love not to have to rely on the AHL. The minor leagues of MLB are a complete disaster at this point.
In football, presumably the model would be small to medium size metro areas. After Philly and Pittsburgh in PA, it is Allentown/Lehigh Valley as the next largest. Who generates more revenue, minor league Allentown, or Penn State, the flagship football school of the northeast with alumni all over the country that produces 10,000 new fans every freshman class?
They posted early on some things that didn't sit well with me like spending money for internships and overseas trips, but they wouldn't disclose anything in more detail. Those activities sound to me like they are easily abused. Is some business connected to these founders that control a good bit of State College business benefitting by getting athletes to "work" internships and then get paid PSU fan donation money or get the athlete for free and they are paid by the collective? Are there people connected to the founders chaperoning the overseas trips and who is paying for that? What is the purpose of those trips?
that's pretty dumb. nobody is going to want that. here is your deal, we will make you work in the off-season
So do you have a link to support your claims, or are we just supposed to believe you, agenda and all?
You don't believe the players focused on NIL money truly believe they're playing professionally? Even Livvy Dunne isn't going to LSU for an education.
Believe what you want. I don't care. This is the 2nd time you've posted that I have an agenda. The information I am referring to is what was posted on the ON3 site when SWH first had announced it's collective. But seriously, I don't care what you think. It appears that no matter what I post, it will be because I have this agenda you keep talking about. I'll give you my agenda, I am for PSU being it's best in all things.
Grossly underachieving. Hot run or not he accomplished more last year than any Penn State basketball coach in 20 years right? In his second year
Not buying that, his run was no better than the NIT title year when we should have been in the tournament and this run was built primarily with Chambers' players and pipeline and he did underachieve for a portion of the year which set up a second round matchup with a high rated seed. If he performed well, we could have drawn a much higher seed and had more favorable matchups and a much deeper run. With that said, Micah did a good job overall.
it was better, and i am no fan of PC
Fair but, to me, how you do in the post season does define the team. Had we been a 4-6 seed and lost in the first it would have been worse than this year.
i don't agree with that
Why? They were a better team. Because we won exactly 1 round in NCAA? Big whoop.
I want to know what PSU NFLers have contributed to the collectives? Thats validation if they are giving back just a little bit of the millions they are earning.
And made the final of the Big Ten tourney
I didn't follow Shrews before or during his stint at State. So just taking the March Madness games into account, I'm not sure how this year's strategy of a physical guard, 3 point shooters, with below average rebounding translates to next year or beyond. I agree a coach can ride the performance of a player or two. So I have no knee-jerk reaction to his leaving and not that much regret that State didn't open up their pocket books more than they did. If he was going to leave after two years, he would leave after 3, 4, etc. Taking the State's sports that have had success, it seems their NIL dollars should be prioritized in football, with hockey, wrestling, and possibly women's volleyball competing with basketball for a share. I just can't see opening the vault for a coach with limited head coaching success in a sport that isn't near the top of fanbase interest or their conference and national rankings.
Heard from very good source that Pickett got the highest NIL payout of only $6,000.
doubt they would be super aggressive with it
yeah but those runs are not getting titles
Right. They didn't achieve the goal but they advanced. Going out in the first round IMO nullifies a good year.
offensive rebounding was at the very bottom of d1, right?
I can't say for sure, but it could be a case of painting the barn red because you have red paint. As you develop your roster you can start to play your style of play.
That’s my fear. Could every one of these ex-athletes be basically seeing NIL “collectives” as a way to personally profit? While we are on this message board bickering over which collective is the most moral, but in reality are simply taking the side of the ones our favorite athletes are involved with.
Why is Jay Paterno getting singled out for the problems with “Success with Honor” instead of the ex-athletes on its advisory board like Mike Robinson and Calvin Booth? Maybe just because Jay is an easy target (not a star athlete, was handed a coaching position due to his father) and not because Jay is actually in the wrong on this situation.
Are the athletes at these other school really making money of their NIL, period? Or are they just receiving gifts. I thought the whole purpose of NIL was so the student-athletes can provide something in return to the business or individuals providing them $$$
I have no issue with the athletes providing something, advertising, whatever to the businesses contributing money to an NIL collective or working an NIL deal directly with the athletes.
Or is it that Jay is only concerned with one thing and he was elected solely because of his dad. Calvin and Mike likely deserved some criticism as well but at least both did more than simply be Joe's son.
