The full 8th season isn’t going to help Pat’s winning percentage...so he will be even farther behind DeChellis.
Chambers putting his hands aggressively on Dread
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If he was a proven winner and he did it, it would still be wrong. There is no justification for excusing improper behavior.
Please fire this guy already. Should have been fired at least two years ago. There is no excuse or positives about Chambers as a coach.
Bowl games are a joke. There’s like 4 or 5 that even matter. The game against Kentucky was literally irrelevant.
I don’t see it that way. Behavioral errors are subject to gradation and the coach’s on court performance would factor in to my decision on the punishment.
Joke ? as a head coach he has lost 4 bowls that were either a college BCS, football playoff/ or New Years 6 game. 2008 Orange, 2012 BCS, 2015 Fiesta and 2018 Cotton. I was responding to the "Except Kelly wins games." comment.
What in the HELL does the game against Kentucky have to do with the fact that Kelly doesn't have a great track record in bowl games that many don't consider "literally irrelevant" ???
I can't believe that what all the fuss is about! This country is so effed up!
I used to work concert security during my PSU days (best seat in house for concerts, blah blah). We would occasionally watch (through the door window) DeChellis' practices in the side gym. I played HS and AAU, and never witnessed such angry coaching in my life. DeChellis makes Chambers look like a saint.
I don't think any half decent coach out there runs his team like a pre school class teacher would. Yet that's what society expects these days
So he shoved. Who cares. Don't be so politically correct. That is the trouble with this country, everyone is so babyish. He's a man , he can take it.
I worry about our society. A coach gets suspended because he gives a player a little shove and people want him fired. However the Speaker of the House has no problem with a junior "representative" calling the President of the United States a motherf***er. Pathetic.
It wasn't that much. I've believe I've seen Izzo get just as angry but I'm not sure about the poke/shove. This does give PSU cover to fire Chambers. Not sure that's a bad thing at this point.
Thank you very much Fair, my words and thoughts exactly
Chambers is pretty much the same as DeChellis in terms of results. But he is achieving the same results with better players, which is worse.
First, is the latter statement not, in fact, a statement of fact? Does Trump f*** mothers (keeping in mind that Ivanka is a mom now)? Why are you against the truth?
Second, one is a physical altercation conducted by a person in a position of authority against one of his wards. The other is name-calling between grown government officials.
Whether a politician likes the person in office, the position needs to be respected especially by others in the government.
The position is being respected. The "person" holding the position is not, for obvious reasons, including the fact that he originally gained political relevance, campaign on, and still exhibits on a regular basis, behavior that includes habitual lying, name-calling and insulting trolling of the highest order (such behavior being excused, and celebrated, by his minions as his just not being politically correct and/or not being a "snowflake").
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I think its about time Chambers shows some emotion and demands accountability from his players freshman or notMaybe he should have patted him on the head and sent him to the bench for some milk and cookies
Man, it’s too bad he didn’t punch him in the face....now that’s really demanding accountability. Funny, Coach K has won a ton of games and never pushed a player on national TV....someone needs to tell him the proper way to hold his players accountable. I guess sitting them on the bench doesn’t work any more.
Mmmm, milk and cookies.Maybe he should have patted him on the head and sent him to the bench for some milk and cookies
Cursing out the president isn’t illegal, shoving someone is. In Pennsylvania one could be cited for harassment for a shoving someone.
Didn’t say it was illegal, but both show a complete lack of judgement which brings in question the person’s ability to do the job effectively.
I posted an objection about the ESPN hit piece on Bobby Knight several weeks ago and I was ripped apart on this board. I'm sick of the "give the kid a lollipop and pat him on the back" attitude of some people. Big time college sports can generate high levels of emotion given the pressure. Far be it from me to jump in and criticize someone who I do not know the background of the situation.
Pretty soon, we’ll be training our young Americans to be Navy SEALS in heated swimming pools so society doesn’t think we are harming them or hurting their feelings.
I don’t see Coach K and Jay Wright pushing their players on national TV...and they do just fine.
Back in my day, kids were able to fight off those carcinogens, and they were able to take the hit when they flew out the front windshield upon impact going 55 mph. But, thanks to today's snowflake wussification of 'Murica, you can't even shove one of your own players, let alone marvel at the smoke being exhaled from your 9 year old's lungs as they scream in terror flying through the air after a traffic accident.
Ahhh yes. The ever popular, always illogical, cliche of equating military and athletic training.
Good for Chambers, he got the kids attention. Sometimes you need to the Jackass in the head so he will follow directions.
He got the kid's attention, by showing the kid that he doesn't have the emotional maturity to manage. When I was involved in varsity athletics at PSU, if my coach had shoved me, I would have laughed at him and told him "use your words," because he would have been acting like a frustrated child, not the leader of a sports program at an institution for higher learning.
I’m sure they’re not physically touching the kids in practice either. They do video tape the practices and I’m sure someone over the years would have complained and they could have checked the tapes (like they have with other coaches). But in my post I said on TV...you know, a game situation.
What are you talking about? Apparently Dread wasn't paying attention which is what I was getting at. I'm just saying for the most part Coach Chambers puts on his happy face and does nothing compared to other high end Basketball programs including "Coach K" who verbally reprimands players on National TV. Pick your poison either way. FWIW I watched the replay and in my opinion Chambers shove wasn't over the top but made out to be a big deal by Espin. Inaddition most coaches in high end programs have the luxury of a quality bench which makes sitting down a starter to get a point across easier without losing the game unlike Pat who's bench is a whole level below the starters.
I agree with this. What he showed his team is that he is cracking under the pressure of trying to build a winning program, and not being able to do so. These players committed to him because they believed he was on the verge of building a winner. They have severely regressed this year, and, did not play anywhere near their true potential for most of last year. I don't know how he can keep the team in his corner after that episode. It's not like this is Bobby Knight who has won national titles and could command that level of respect even when he acted like a jerk. This is a coach who has demonstrated nothing besides a nice NIT run - with a team that was way too good for the NIT.
What’s Kelly’s winning percentage? I believe it’s fairly impressive. I Hate Kelly and hate ND.
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