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Collegiate Wrestling Duals (No PSU)

Same with Carson Kuhn. And it was glorious.

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Two, the total points entering 285 were in Penn State's favor - 85 to 69 (btw, I've seen OkState/Iowa matches in the recent past where both teams combined for less than 100 points for the whole dual) for a 16 point PSU differential. So any MDec for Snyder couldn't make up the difference - even if he won by 14. The dual would have ended in a 19-19 tie, with PSU winning on total match points.

Therefore, only a TF or Fall could have won the match for tOSU. When Nevills got the first takedown, the significance was not lost on anyone. Since Snyder was basically going to win only by a takedown/release strategy, that meant the number of takedowns he had to get increased by two. Figure he had to get 14 takedowns with 13 escapes to get the TF. After Nevills got his first takedown, Snyder had to get 16 takedowns. When Nevills got his second takedown, it was just a delirious countdown for us PSU fans at the match.

I've been to a lot of sporting events over the years and seen many exciting ones. But that dual at Rec Hall is far and away the best.
According to the PSU Wrestling Club website, PSU was up 85-73 in match points (thru #197).
So, had Snyder won by a 13 pt major, OSU would've won the dual.
 
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In Snyder's entire college career, IIRC the only other guys to score twice on him were both in the NCAA finals, Gadson and Gwiz.
Yeah, I had to go look through the archives on this. MM's 4-1 win at the 2015 B1G's included a TD, an escape, and a RT point. So yep, only scored on him once.
 
According to the PSU Wrestling Club website, PSU was up 85-73 in match points (thru #197).
So, had Snyder won by a 13 pt major, OSU would've won the dual.
I must have miscounted. Ah, I miswrote Micah Jordan's score as 20 instead of 24. My bad. You are correct.
 
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I mean, he has a point. The dual format can be really exciting for underdogs to save a team. Like in 2018 when Nevills stayed off his back against Snyder to eek out a win or in 2019 when OSU had their hammers Pletcher, McKenna, and Jordan lined up at the start to build a big lead and finally get over the hump against PSU and instead upstarts RBY, Lee, and Verk came out with a 6-3 lead to set up Nolf, Vinnie, and Hall to drop the hammer for the champs.
The other thing about Kyle's career is he had very few falls for wins mostly TF's and majors
 
Dual national championship? No thanks see no benefit for B10 teams wrestling the same guys another time before nationals and having it after no benefit for wrestlers to go thru another meat grinder after.
 
PSU should do it and only bring their 2s. It will make for closer scores and the 1s can still be ready for nationals. 😉
 
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But, if it's like last year, they bring pretty much everyone else, so it's a great event. It's also the shortest trip for me except for Rutgers, so I'm biased.
West Point can also be quite nice that time of year if you want to make a weekend out of it. I took someone's advice on here last year and stayed on campus at The Thayer. Wonderful experience.
 
stayed on campus at The Thayer
Stayed on campus in a turtle-back camper when my brother went there. Probably can afford The Thayer now. It's a beautiful campus to walk.

Unfortunately, November 19th is too close to a Monday travel day for me. Maybe another year.
 
Flo has PSU at the Journeyman Collegiate Classic on November 12 too"

While technically not a traditional bracketed tournament, the round robin/scramble structure of this event could result in many of the matchups you'd expect to see in a more typical bracketed tourney, so we're still including it on this list.

Participants: Arizona State, Army, Bloomsburg, Buffalo, Cornell, F&M, Harvard, Hofstra, Lehigh, LIU, Lock Haven, North Carolina, North Carolina, State, Penn, Penn State, Purdue, Sacred Heart
 
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Flo has PSU at the Journeyman Collegiate Classic on November 12 too"

While technically not a traditional bracketed tournament, the round robin/scramble structure of this event could result in many of the matchups you'd expect to see in a more typical bracketed tourney, so we're still including it on this list.

Participants: Arizona State, Army, Bloomsburg, Buffalo, Cornell, F&M, Harvard, Hofstra, Lehigh, LIU, Lock Haven, North Carolina, North Carolina, State, Penn, Penn State, Purdue, Sacred Heart
To clarify: last year's event had multiple brackets within each weight -- i.e., 125A, 125B, 125C, etc. Round robin within each bracket.

Competition appears to have been limited to those round robins -- round robin winners did not face each other to determine a weight class champ.

Wrestlers typically got 3 matches each (excluding forfeits).
 
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Cael always has his wrestlers prepared for dual strategies.

Nick knew the situation but still came out and got a takedown, which Snyder was not remotely prepared for. He definitely thought Nick would back up to try to limit damage. Going up 2-1 basically made it virtually impossible to Snyder to win the dual without a pin, which forced Snyder to go for a yolo throw that gave Nick a second TD.

Similarly, using Marco Vespa this year against Spencer was brilliant. He came out and threw a hail mary that once again, Spencer was not expecting. Afterwards, Vespa's height and length basically makes it impossible for Spencer to pin him in a tilt.

I would bet good money that Kuhn's plan was to pin NATO (or get a 2+4) with the headlock but he just hit it too close OOB.
 
To clarify: last year's event had multiple brackets within each weight -- i.e., 125A, 125B, 125C, etc. Round robin within each bracket.

Competition appears to have been limited to those round robins -- round robin winners did not face each other to determine a weight class champ.

Wrestlers typically got 3 matches each (excluding forfeits).
Is this limited to starters or can backups participate?
 
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