is it a done deal if we both win this weekend? That seems to be the word on the street... I prefer them over USC or most of the SEC teams...
Cotton Bowl vs. UND
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Fiesta Bowl would be a nicer venue to travel to. Dallas has a real winter.
Because it ensures a big crowd at two games. Somebody's going to get UCF.
is there a chance we win vs Maryland but do NOT wind up in NY6? i am seeing that on some of that talk shows. i keep hearing several names above us. if the NY6 is #5 - #16, so it would be logical we are in. already heard a scenario that OSU loses to UM and wins BIG vs Wisky - so with 3 losses/2 blowouts the displace us on NY6. logic was head to head and confer title - different than 2016 logic.
Slim...there's a total of 6 bowls which includes the playoff so there's only 12 teams not 16 plus auto-bids. If the ACC gets two teams in the playoffs and Auburn doesn't fall behind us we're in trouble because the ACC then is guaranteed 3 teams and the rest is based on rankings not who the bowls want. Basically just root for Ohio State or Notre Dame to lose a game along with us winning obviously.
LionJim....they want to spread out the big crowds as one NY6 bowl is going to get UCF, USF or Memphis.
TCU maybe an option to play PSU or ND in Cotton because they are local will bring a crowd and PSU/ND will no matter where it is but obviously 2 or more weeks of games to play!
Shhh, don’t say that. You’ll be excused of being spineless and not believing that PSU is in automatically in the NY6 because they are PSU and that’s that.
i think one of the UCF/USF/Memphis are supposed to be in. so that leaves 7 spots of the 8 (i forgot the 2 playoff games were counted in NY6). not alot of room to maneuver. i can see USC winning out an PAC12, and they are #11 right now. we need the #5-#9 area to have chaos.
Here's our doomsday scenario
ACC: Miami beats Pitt, Clemson beats South Carolina, Clemson beats Miami (close game)
Big Ten: Ohio State beats Michigan & Wisconsin
Big XII: Oklahoma wins out
SEC: Auburn beats Alabama, Georgia Tech beats Georgia, Georgia beats Auburn
Other: Notre Dame beats Stanford.
Rankings would probably look like
1. Clemson
2. Alabama (this board would riot apparently)
3. Oklahoma
4. Miami
5. Ohio State (sadly, we'd be better off if they get the 4 seed)
6. Wisconsin
7. Georgia
8. Notre Dame
9. Auburn (again, this board would be livid)
10. Penn State
Playoffs
Clemson vs. Miami
Alabama vs. Oklahoma
Orange: Virginia Tech (auto) vs. Ohio State
Fiesta: Southern Cal (auto) vs. Georgia
Orange: Notre Dame vs. UCF (auto)
Cotton: Wisconsin vs. Auburn
Being seeded 10th would force us to be out
ACC: Miami beats Pitt, Clemson beats South Carolina, Clemson beats Miami (close game)
Big Ten: Ohio State beats Michigan & Wisconsin
Big XII: Oklahoma wins out
SEC: Auburn beats Alabama, Georgia Tech beats Georgia, Georgia beats Auburn
Other: Notre Dame beats Stanford.
Rankings would probably look like
1. Clemson
2. Alabama (this board would riot apparently)
3. Oklahoma
4. Miami
5. Ohio State (sadly, we'd be better off if they get the 4 seed)
6. Wisconsin
7. Georgia
8. Notre Dame
9. Auburn (again, this board would be livid)
10. Penn State
Playoffs
Clemson vs. Miami
Alabama vs. Oklahoma
Orange: Virginia Tech (auto) vs. Ohio State
Fiesta: Southern Cal (auto) vs. Georgia
Orange: Notre Dame vs. UCF (auto)
Cotton: Wisconsin vs. Auburn
Being seeded 10th would force us to be out
Auto bid--the Orange MUST take an ACC team regardless of rank
That scenario is a waste of time and intelligent discussion. <1% chance of it occurring.
It's higher than that. The only unlikely part is Ga Tech beating Georgia but I did say the odds were slim. Sadly, the odds of that are far higher than the odds of us getting into the top 4. Now that is less than 1%
How does ND factor into ACC bowl assignment if they are ranked higher than the playoff champion?
You're right--because Wisconsin (if they win out) or Auburn/Georgia is most likely but it's possible. This weekend is huge. We'll know Saturday what our fate is
They aren't included in that scenario. In fact, the Orange is ACC vs. Notre Dam/Big Ten/SEC...they can't even get the non-Power 5 team which is a big win for them
Honestly, my guess for the 12 teams is
ACC: Miami & Clemson
Big XII: Oklahoma
Big Ten: Ohio State, Penn State & Wisconsin
Pac XII: Conference winner only
SEC: Alabama, Auburn & Georgia
UCF (auto)
With ND or TCU getting the final spot depending on how things play out
The Cotton Bowl is scheduled for Friday, Dec 29th. So if we're selected for it, how would you make your travel plans?
Fly in on the 28th and fly home the 31st? Spend New Year's Day in Dallas watching bowl games? In Fla there's the beach and depending on bowl game, possibly another bowl game to go to within a few hour drive.
Fly in on the 28th and fly home the 31st? Spend New Year's Day in Dallas watching bowl games? In Fla there's the beach and depending on bowl game, possibly another bowl game to go to within a few hour drive.
Have to believe there is zero chance Wisconsin is above Penn State if they lose to OSU. They aren't getting any respect now and if they lose to the 1 team they play with a pulse, Wisky will fall to 10 or lower.
Who is motivated to spread attendance over multiple bowls? Don't the bowls operate independently of one another looking out for their own greater benefit without regardfor the others? If anything, I would think that they are in competition with one another and would not hesitate to tie up two teams that travel well to keep the other bowls from benefiting. Maybe I've become jaded in my old age.
Maybe but I doubt it. I think they'd have to get blown out for that to happen. They're getting some respect. Being 5 is hardly no respect IMO
Most likely have become just that. Old and jaded. I'm almost there myself. Nevertheless, you being correct in your premise and conclusion and being jaded are not mutually exclusive.
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LOL - 100% agree.
Let's say that a bowl might get 30K each from PSU and ND and 15K locals who just want to see a good game for 75K of attendance.
But said bowl is altruistic and states that we want to share with the XX bowl as we are team players. So, let ND go to the XX bowl to spread the attendance out and we will take Central Florida or Washington with their 10K fans and wind up to 30K = 15K + 10K for 55K total attendance.
If any bowl could snatch PSU and ND or OSU and ND, they would grab it and never give a thought to, or shed a tear for, Bowl XX.
I don’t think if Auburn losses a 3 rd game they stay ahead of us.
That win over Georgia will carry a lot of weight...if they lose to Bama they'd have two losses to top 4 teams (Bama/Clemson). I could see that going either way but I think they'd be ahead of us. If they beat Bama and lose to Georgia they'll definitely be ahead of us IMO. They'd have 2 top 4/5 wins. Our best win remains as Northwestern--that's problematic.
I posted a couple weeks ago, and have seen nothing since to change my view, that our bowl fate hinges largely on one team: Wisconsin. If they win out, we’re a lock for a NY6 bid. Or if they get blown out against the Buckeyes, we’re also in good shape.
Based on what I saw last Saturday, they have an excellent chance of beating Ohio State in Indianapolis. Wisconsin is for real. Granted, they benefited from what turned out to be an easy schedule. If they would have had to play the three game stretch we did in October, they would not be unbeaten now.
The most tricky scenario for us would be if Wisconsin loses a close game to Ohio State. In that case, I think both teams would be ranked ahead of us, and we’d need some things to break our way with games involving other top-10 teams. Which could happen, as several of those teams are going to lose within the next two weeks. The question is which ones and by how much.
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