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Couple observations and thoughts.

ziplock

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Observation #1: Sluggo had to crack a smile yesterday because PSU made an in-game adjustment up front that he has talked for quite a while. Actually, let me clarify that.... I don't believe they made a blocking change but, rather, they called another play instead of the RPO that blocks the same look differently and generated a better setup for the back. Go back and look for yourselves.

Observation #2: Indiana utilized a similar recipe on defense to that of other opponents and I believe PSU is too stubborn to make certain adjustments to force the hand of the defense. If you look at the two high base sets we are seeing, you realize that we need to adapt our scheme and formations to exploit them. Specifically, teams are parking safeties over Hamler and Freiermuth to lessen the direct vertical threat from the two spot. Our primary response has been to run the box fade but now teams are countering that by getting friction on Hamler/Freiermuth and not allowing free release to the alley.

Observation #3: Playing off of #2, PSU has become too predictable in how they attack segments of the field and it is translating into the keys and reads of opposing defenders. Let me give some examples:
Do we attack the middle of the field from the RB position? I can't recall a single Nike route. It's always flat or swing.
Do we attack the middle of the field from #1? I haven't seen us do this with success in about a month.... and the token slants don't count because PSU runs slant as a skinny so it doesn't impact linebacker keys and reads.
Do we run bubbles and tunnel screens to force safeties to run the alley and not just sit high in coverage? Make those safeties play downhill on the outside.

Having said all of that, I'm not actually trying to be critical of the staff as much as I'm saying that the staff needs to devote more focus to dictating what the opposing defense does rather than threading the needle of what they are giving us. This is a major distinction and I believe they are simply saying 'OK, the defense is cover two with friction so we have to run this...' My preference would be that they utilize base formation, personnel grouping and route variety to dictate to the defense and force them out of all of the two high stuff.

OK, great... how do they do that, right? I believe a couple adjustments could change what defenses are able to do fundamentally.
First, get Hamler out at the #1 more often. This stresses the defense and forces them to modify coverage. You can't press Hamler and not expect PSU to make you pay with the hole shot against Cover 2. This will make the defense roll coverage or play more split coverage to open up the other receivers.
Second, modify the 3x1 sets to isolate Hamler on the one side. This eliminates the possibility of two high coverage and creates a matchup nightmare that demands help over the top.
Third, attack the middle of the field from the RB position. This lessens the underneath help that LBs can give to restrict throwing lanes and opens the field under the safeties.

Anyway, enough for now and sorry for the long post. I'm not a negative nelly and I'm quite happy with the team's success. I'd just like us to dictate to the defense rather than take what they give us because the defenses we're seeing make you take lower percentage throws.

ziplock
 
Observation #1: Sluggo had to crack a smile yesterday because PSU made an in-game adjustment up front that he has talked for quite a while. Actually, let me clarify that.... I don't believe they made a blocking change but, rather, they called another play instead of the RPO that blocks the same look differently and generated a better setup for the back. Go back and look for yourselves.

Observation #2: Indiana utilized a similar recipe on defense to that of other opponents and I believe PSU is too stubborn to make certain adjustments to force the hand of the defense. If you look at the two high base sets we are seeing, you realize that we need to adapt our scheme and formations to exploit them. Specifically, teams are parking safeties over Hamler and Freiermuth to lessen the direct vertical threat from the two spot. Our primary response has been to run the box fade but now teams are countering that by getting friction on Hamler/Freiermuth and not allowing free release to the alley.

Observation #3: Playing off of #2, PSU has become too predictable in how they attack segments of the field and it is translating into the keys and reads of opposing defenders. Let me give some examples:
Do we attack the middle of the field from the RB position? I can't recall a single Nike route. It's always flat or swing.
Do we attack the middle of the field from #1? I haven't seen us do this with success in about a month.... and the token slants don't count because PSU runs slant as a skinny so it doesn't impact linebacker keys and reads.
Do we run bubbles and tunnel screens to force safeties to run the alley and not just sit high in coverage? Make those safeties play downhill on the outside.

Having said all of that, I'm not actually trying to be critical of the staff as much as I'm saying that the staff needs to devote more focus to dictating what the opposing defense does rather than threading the needle of what they are giving us. This is a major distinction and I believe they are simply saying 'OK, the defense is cover two with friction so we have to run this...' My preference would be that they utilize base formation, personnel grouping and route variety to dictate to the defense and force them out of all of the two high stuff.

OK, great... how do they do that, right? I believe a couple adjustments could change what defenses are able to do fundamentally.
First, get Hamler out at the #1 more often. This stresses the defense and forces them to modify coverage. You can't press Hamler and not expect PSU to make you pay with the hole shot against Cover 2. This will make the defense roll coverage or play more split coverage to open up the other receivers.
Second, modify the 3x1 sets to isolate Hamler on the one side. This eliminates the possibility of two high coverage and creates a matchup nightmare that demands help over the top.
Third, attack the middle of the field from the RB position. This lessens the underneath help that LBs can give to restrict throwing lanes and opens the field under the safeties.

Anyway, enough for now and sorry for the long post. I'm not a negative nelly and I'm quite happy with the team's success. I'd just like us to dictate to the defense rather than take what they give us because the defenses we're seeing make you take lower percentage throws.

ziplock
Didn’t we try to attack the middle of the field w a RB last week and get called for PI
 
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Didn’t we try to attack the middle of the field w a RB last week and get called for PI
Haha! You are correct! I would contend that was a vertical rub route and what I'm suggesting is getting the back under to open the second level but you are correct.
Care to comment on the 'modified' blocking yesterday on the long drive? Is that where you want to see the backside tackle go to get the second double to the scrape?
 
Observation #1: Sluggo had to crack a smile yesterday because PSU made an in-game adjustment up front that he has talked for quite a while. Actually, let me clarify that.... I don't believe they made a blocking change but, rather, they called another play instead of the RPO that blocks the same look differently and generated a better setup for the back. Go back and look for yourselves.

Observation #2: Indiana utilized a similar recipe on defense to that of other opponents and I believe PSU is too stubborn to make certain adjustments to force the hand of the defense. If you look at the two high base sets we are seeing, you realize that we need to adapt our scheme and formations to exploit them. Specifically, teams are parking safeties over Hamler and Freiermuth to lessen the direct vertical threat from the two spot. Our primary response has been to run the box fade but now teams are countering that by getting friction on Hamler/Freiermuth and not allowing free release to the alley.

Observation #3: Playing off of #2, PSU has become too predictable in how they attack segments of the field and it is translating into the keys and reads of opposing defenders. Let me give some examples:
Do we attack the middle of the field from the RB position? I can't recall a single Nike route. It's always flat or swing.
Do we attack the middle of the field from #1? I haven't seen us do this with success in about a month.... and the token slants don't count because PSU runs slant as a skinny so it doesn't impact linebacker keys and reads.
Do we run bubbles and tunnel screens to force safeties to run the alley and not just sit high in coverage? Make those safeties play downhill on the outside.

Having said all of that, I'm not actually trying to be critical of the staff as much as I'm saying that the staff needs to devote more focus to dictating what the opposing defense does rather than threading the needle of what they are giving us. This is a major distinction and I believe they are simply saying 'OK, the defense is cover two with friction so we have to run this...' My preference would be that they utilize base formation, personnel grouping and route variety to dictate to the defense and force them out of all of the two high stuff.

OK, great... how do they do that, right? I believe a couple adjustments could change what defenses are able to do fundamentally.
First, get Hamler out at the #1 more often. This stresses the defense and forces them to modify coverage. You can't press Hamler and not expect PSU to make you pay with the hole shot against Cover 2. This will make the defense roll coverage or play more split coverage to open up the other receivers.
Second, modify the 3x1 sets to isolate Hamler on the one side. This eliminates the possibility of two high coverage and creates a matchup nightmare that demands help over the top.
Third, attack the middle of the field from the RB position. This lessens the underneath help that LBs can give to restrict throwing lanes and opens the field under the safeties.

Anyway, enough for now and sorry for the long post. I'm not a negative nelly and I'm quite happy with the team's success. I'd just like us to dictate to the defense rather than take what they give us because the defenses we're seeing make you take lower percentage throws.

ziplock
Appreciate your knowledge, insight and suggestions.
One question: Is it stubbornness on the staff's part to not adjust? They are getting paid but money and surely see the same issues.
 
#3 one of the best running back routes was Vs Pitt from Slade went for a long gainer have not seen it since. Do the practice slant's to the Wr's at all, it is never in the games.
 
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Haha! You are correct! I would contend that was a vertical rub route and what I'm suggesting is getting the back under to open the second level but you are correct.
Care to comment on the 'modified' blocking yesterday on the long drive? Is that where you want to see the backside tackle go to get the second double to the scrape?
I’ll have to go back and look. Cheering too hard to watch that close live
 
My biggest concern on offense is in the red zone. Hamler gets separation with his speed but that's more difficult with less real estate to work with.

That said, I'm much more concerned about or defense than I am about our offense. During the last 2 weeks opposing QBs completed more than 80% of their passes for more than 700 yards. It's one thing to get dinked and dunked by high percentage passers. PSU has been giving up one explosive play after another. Yesterday Fryfogle caught a pass for 46 yards, Ellis caught one for 39 yards, and Philyor caught one for 42 yards. Last week vs. Minnesota Bateman had a catch for 66 yards and Johnson had one for 38 yards. It seems to me that we're really getting smoked when we line a safety (Wade) up to the LOS and leave a CB (Castro Fields) in single coverage.
 
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Appreciate your knowledge, insight and suggestions.
One question: Is it stubbornness on the staff's part to not adjust? They are getting paid but money and surely see the same issues.

Rick,
My opinion is that the staff is pursuing the path of taking what the defense is giving them. This is an age-old adage in football and I think it forms the basis for their play selection.
My contention is that if you are able to force opposing defenses to abandon two-high sets, you get a better set of alternatives to work with.
In football, playcalling is truly dictated by which end of the prism you are looking through. Defense dictating to the offense -or- offense dictating to the defense. Do we take what the defense gives or do we force the defense to play a certain way by utilizing specific sets and playcalls?

ziplock
 
Matt McGloin is funny. He is part of the PS sports network and has been openly critical of the offense when warranted all season long. He is blunt. He said yesterday that PS is running their offense based exclusively on a certain coverage look they hope the defense gives them. If the opposing defense provides the look then PS has success but if they vary it up, then PS is stuck until they can make adjustments which normally don't come until halftime. It was pretty surprising to hear such candor.
 
The one positive change I noticed (I need to qualify, as do not take take notes, so perhaps I imagined it!), most of the season, whether 3rd and three or 3rd and seven, we'd throw long. I though yesterday we seemed to focus more on the actual yards we needed. Granted, maybe the "longs" were the best chance based on the D. Secondly, not throwing into the "middle" may just be the ghost of Joe at work, as he always stated, "you turn the ball over when you throw in to the middle of the field!"
 
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