Danny O'brian
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Danny oversaw Drew taking a huge jump this season from year one to year two. That's why he's not under scrutiny. Drew's struggles are not unique to being coached by him.
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Drew has thrown two horrible interceptions to end two championship games. His footwork at times is abysmal. Danny needs to do better because if you want to beat teams with a pulse you can't throw horrible interceptions with the game on the line and you can't have terrible footwork in year four. Drew gets paid a lot of money. These kids aren't little baby amateurs anymore. They are basically paid athletes so expectations are rightfully higher and we demand more and better.
Thank God, you never have bad days in life and never screwed up. Jesus.
At this point if Drew doesn't get it by now..... He could have accounted for 4 interceptions, First series when he threw to the split out directly to where the corner was playing, the two interceptions that were overturned due to PI and of course the last. you can teach all the mechanics but he lacks the innateness.
Honestly coach K has to get some props where that is concerned. Not taking anything away from O'Brien he has been great here IMO.
You don't get it because you don't comprehend how great Drew was this season. That's on you
Drew needs a sports psychiatrist, not a new qb coach.
I think the last sentence was worded in a confusing way. I think he meant that Drew's struggles can't be attributed to O'Brien. But it could appear to mean that Drew is not the only one to struggle under O'Brien.
Drew Allar is 20 years old.
He's still developing.
A lot of these QBs leading top programs, or being selected high in the NFL draft, are 22, 23, or even 24 years old.
I've long stated that Allar has top 1st round ability, and he's taken undue criticism in the past ... but he did struggle in big moments late in the season.
AND THAT'S OK.
People always want to be extremist and say this guy's great, and deflect all criticism away from him, or this guy's awful, and he'll always be awful. The truth is almost always somewhere in between.
I'm glad he's back, I think he's going to be awesome, and he still has to develop. It may not click for him, or it may click further down the line, but he has time. And I'm glad he's taking it.
He's still developing.
A lot of these QBs leading top programs, or being selected high in the NFL draft, are 22, 23, or even 24 years old.
I've long stated that Allar has top 1st round ability, and he's taken undue criticism in the past ... but he did struggle in big moments late in the season.
AND THAT'S OK.
People always want to be extremist and say this guy's great, and deflect all criticism away from him, or this guy's awful, and he'll always be awful. The truth is almost always somewhere in between.
I'm glad he's back, I think he's going to be awesome, and he still has to develop. It may not click for him, or it may click further down the line, but he has time. And I'm glad he's taking it.
Padding your stats against bad competition and choking against good teams is not taking huge strides. It’s being Sean Clifford.
I hope some of our posters hit the transfer portal this offseason.
he didn't have a great season. decent yes, great no. just my op.
Allar reminds me of Josh Allen when he was 20. Has all the tools etc. however he fully developed when to was trained by a QB coach (whose name I don’t remember) worked with him one offseason and made him the QB he is today. I wish CJF would make contact and get DA to the same guru.
The problem we have is we don't have anyone any better and after Grunk not even close. Grunk is not ready and they won't get a QB in the transfer portal, Thursday night was not a highlight real for why a QB would want to come to PS. A Five Star throwing lake a Three Star is not good advertising.
It's not...the fact you watched Allar play all year in a vertical passing offense without a single legit WR only to claim he wasn't great this year is pure insanity and bias. Guessing a quick search would indicate you wanted Beau to play.
Drews and Ethans QB coach is Brad Maendler in Ohio. Ethan seems to have better footwork but just observations from film. QB fundamentals have changed over the years in part by the off balance different arm angles displayed by Rogers and Mahomes. If you watch some of Drews HS film you see a lot of different angles and footwork. He seems to revert to some old habits. FYI during the PSU/Minn game Danielson was orgasmic about the Minn QB quick release and ability to throw off his back foot. Go back and watch and listen. Gary Danielson seems think its the and attribute not many have. Interesting.
Beau would have won this game as his running ability coupled with his more accurate passing would have led Penn State to victory, as it did in the Wisconsin game. Allar was off, lost his mechanics just was not calm and able to deliver when he had many opportunities to do so.
On another note, I do agree that the wideouts were not getting separation from the Dbacks as best that I could see, hence my opinion that Beau's talent in running would have won the game for PSU.
Lmao...Beau didn't win the Wisconsin game and Drew outplayed him then. See Beau in the Oregon game when Drew had to come out for a play--Beau immediately took the only sack of them game. Beau isn't more accurate. Drew's an effective runner. The fact that you or anyone else is truly that stupid that you think Beau is better is beyond ridiculous. I have no clue why you even watch football.
You have an ASS? You have laughed it off so many times it must be all HOLE by now. As the Board SCUMBAG you have displayed a lack of knowledge of anything football. As someone who has played all 3 major sports and had a full Athletic Scholarship at Penn State, I have my opinions based upon knowledge and experience. YOU SCUMBAG?
Who hasn't played all "major sports" though I'm guessing we disagree on the top 3
You're enamored (if you know what that means) with the dual threats QBs--you dislike traditional drop back passers. It's why you say absurd things that Allar takes too many sacks when he's rarely sacked (least sacked in the Final 4) because you don't know what you're talking about.
Allar is better on his worst day (so Thursday) than Beau on his best. We'll see what Beau does at Mizzou and where he's drafted. You're going to be confused dumbass.
Coach K has to get his act together. Some of his play calling has been horrendous. 3rd down and one with Allen tearing it up all game long, and he throws a 15 yard incompletion causing the drive to stall. 3rd down and three from the "15" and we throw the ball back and forth across the field for no gain, just asking for a turnover in that situation would have killed us.
Let alone the deep balls he keeps calling with a 20% completion rate at best, and a couple of game killing interceptions. And, the high arching fade routes from about the 7 YL when we were running the ball down the throats of ND and Oregon wearing them down. Mind boggling!
Yes because others pay players we will have low expectations for our paid players. 👍
Expectations are fine
Valid criticism is fine--key word being VALID
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Have the calls been all that bad or has the execution been lousy at times.
I agree with the notion that some have in that we have at times poor passing attack due to poor execution by some players. I admit that I might not have made a couple calls he did but the problem is deeper than some bad play calling. The other thing is there is no guarantee that a running play would have gotten stuffed.
Hindsight and armchair quarterbacking after the fact comes easy to all of us I'm guilty of it. If I were to call a coach into question and I have it wouldn't be coach K at least not at this point. IMO he's the reason we were able to get as far as we did during the season and in the playoffs. Also, if people want to give Allar credit for improvement this past season over the previous, I would give a lot of credit to the scheme and coach K.
3rd down and one with Allen averaging about 7 yards a carry and you throw a 15 yard pass to Dinkins for an incompletion and turnover??? I would say that is not bad, but horrendous!
There were three plays called in that game that I would not have called that was one of them. Alar was only in the 50 some percent range during the playoffs.
Bad calls happen in every game by every coaching staff. Alar simply couldn't put it together after those early drops. The other side of the coin is had the players executed we wouldn't be having this conversation; we would be in the national championship game. Lots of blame to go around.
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