Flo is gonna make a show out of it- THE GREATEST SINGLET TUG EVER!
Spencer could come to Stillwater and bring Larry with him. Northern Oklahoma College could probably use another 6 figure salaried administrator.I can get you a meeting with David, but you have to enter the portal first.
Wait, sorry, wrong school.
According to Piles, Casey is the first guy Oklahoma State approached and he turned them down. Casey and Cody are not going anywhere.I honestly don't care who DT takes to OSU, but Casey needs to stay at PSU. Break the bank if you have to donors.
LOL, just imagine the reaction if Spencer left Iowa to join David at OKST.Spencer could come to Stillwater and bring Larry with him. Northern Oklahoma College could probably use another 6 figure salaried administrator.
What fun that would be. I would certainly enjoy it, but I believe JTS will feel as though he found entertainment heaven.LOL, just imagine the reaction if Spencer left Iowa to join David at OKST.
The GIA dumpster fire could be seen from outer space.
The Tug Job Felt ‘Round the WorldFlo is gonna make a show out of it- THE GREATEST SINGLET TUG EVER!
I from his media interactions, I just don't see the coaching qualities in Spencer to be the head of a program. At the very least, he needs more time or time as an assistant.By that theory, Iowa will again be a juggernaut when they hire Spencer.
Spencer needs time to mature and prove that he can speak for himself instead of Larry doing it for him.I from his media interactions, I just don't see the coaching qualities in Spencer to be the head of a program. At the very least, he needs more time or time as an assistant.
This is a pretty common rumor. I heard it well before trials, but the move was said to be at a new facility to be built on or near his farm.15 days ago, DT thought he was two tough wins away from Paris.
Stop talking out of your ass. You gossip worse than a schoolgirl.
Eh, feel like this is reaching a bit. He built M2 because A) it makes him a lot of money and B) he genuinely seems to enjoy coaching and helping young wrestlers.I wonder whether a main reason DT started M2 was to create a pipeline of talent for himself that would flow most fully just about when he would retire from competition and be ready to coach collegiately.
To mix metaphors, was DT a farmer planting his orchard years in advance?
I agree C/C/C are stars and would add to this Dan Monthley and Bonnie...their influence shouldn't be ignored. Where is David going to find another Dan Monthley and Bonnie?I feel the same. DT is a huge steal for OkSt. Cael and co were the biggest ever. Cael, Cody, and Casey are the true Stars and have shown that time and time again. DT has to create that coaching relationship with his wrestlers now. I think he can do it, but he has a lot to do in a place that needs some work. He needs his own DT to come and change his program. I think Jax is that guy. Bo, if he follows can be a nice secondary punch.
I agree on maturity. In college you are in a cocoon, particularly stud athletes. SL certainly knows wrestling, and I'm not tryin to put him down but a few years of cutting your teeth on your own and dealing with real life will make a big difference for him.Spencer needs time to mature and prove that he can speak for himself instead of Larry doing it for him.
Not the best of friendsI saw a rumor that Bo and DT were not on good terms. Any truth to that?
Cael and Taylor's talent level aren't that far apart. Cael didn't wrestle anyone like Dake in college, and Bubba just caught him.The room depth will probably be impacted the most. Taylor is every bit the drawl Cael was just not in the same talent area. But the advantage Taylor has is his Oh & Pa connections. The first two years of his coaching career could net him the top 2 recruits in the country.
So Oklahoma State will have been coached by John Smith then DT. That is pretty amazing. Kudos to them. Doesn’t change any though. Cael inc has faced great teams and hopefully they will continue to.Hat tip to the Oklahoma State powers that be that made this happen. Talk about swinging for the fences - wow! They already had a very good candidate in Scott and the program appeared to be on an upward trajectory with talented recruits, redshirts and transfers teed up. But somebody decided this wasn’t good enough so they tossed all of their cards on the table and declared “Goddamnit, we are going to compete with Cael Sanderson!” I am seriously impressed.
We’ll just call it a difference of opinions. But it mostly just comes down to two guys at the same weight who both believe(d) they are the best in the worldAny further insights?
Yeah, that’s what a regular person like me would think also. But it would be pretty cool if DT was more awesome than a regular person, along the lines of the quote, something like:Eh, feel like this is reaching a bit. He built M2 because A) it makes him a lot of money and B) he genuinely seems to enjoy coaching and helping young wrestlers.
Casey isn’t going anywhere. On FRL they said OSU made a run at him first and he shot it down quickly. They then said they think Cael , Cody , and Casey stay together their entire coaching careers. Who knows but I’m sure many have called in the past to feel him out. I’m with you though, keeping Casey and Cody is very key to maintaining this PSU dynastyI honestly don't care who DT takes to OSU, but Casey needs to stay at PSU. Break the bank if you have to donors.
I think the bulk of the tension came from a not well kept secret of 2019. DT tore his ACL at Beat the Streets but told Bo it wasn't serious and he would be back by Final X. Bo out of respect stayed 92 and lost to J'Den of course. DT would miss Final X, which gave Downey the spot, who obviously most would take Bo over. I think the big reason is DT 100% knew Bo would likely medal at worlds at 86, which gives him the Finals of OTT spot, while DT is working back form an ACL tear, which adds another challenge.We’ll just call it a difference of opinions. But it mostly just comes down to two guys at the same weight who both believe(d) they are the best in the world
The long term benefit would be developing his coaching skills.Yeah, that’s what a regular person like me would think also. But it would be pretty cool if DT was more awesome than a regular person, along the lines of the quote, something like:
Talent hits the target that no one else can hit, genius hits the target that no one else can see.
I would love to believe DT has extraordinary long-term vision. Remember, some of these top wrestlers have been visualizing themselves winning the Olympics since age 7. It does not seem too much of a stretch for them to use the same visualization and planning for the next step beyond.
100% agree. I’ll add that I’m not upset, and very happy for David.If you are upset about this, you are worrying too much about PSU and not enough about the sport of wrestling.
This is GREAT for wrestling! This is also GREAT for DT. He deserves it, and I'm extremely happy for him!
Listen, it is sort of fun to watch our favorite team win by 100 points at Nationals, but, it is NOT good for the sport. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the dominance and am happy for our coaches, wrestlers and fans. However, it was more exciting when Quentin was beating Kilgore to secure the title, or Bo was getting a pin to secure the title.
I have no doubt that DT will succeed at Oklahoma St. It will definitely slow down the PSU dominance, as he is definitely going to get some recruits that would have gone to PSU.
I wish DT nothing but success. I will root for Oklahoma State wrestlers (unless they are going against PSU) and will root for them to come in 2nd place for years to come.
LOL. The fun begins already. DT to OSU is great for college wrestling as many have said.
You have to give Carter credit. He doesn't hold anything back!
We got the best YG kids except Spencer who clearly wanted to do his own thing. OSU got the recent good batch (Welsh, Kilkeary)A big winner in all of this is Strittmatter and Young Guns. YG had taken a hit the last 5-7 years as M2 took over the region.
I’m less concerned about DT to OKST and more concerned about what happens to M2. I’d prefer the premier club in the area to be run by a PSU guy. I know YG sent us several studs, but I’m not sure I’ll ever completely trust Strittmatter and his Iowa connections.
With all that said, I think you’ll see a PSU guy fill the void/buy M2. Nolf seems like the most logical candidate, but who knows.
He is who he is. I love it. He puts it on the line and is not shy with his opinions. Vulgar, yes, but at least he's authentic.
@Str8DBLz don't worry too much. I forgot your name as soon as I read it, as I think most will.Str8DBLz > Ames2State
(Also sorry that Mineo doxxed you. Personally, I don't think the game is played that way.)
It is funny because Penn St. wouldn’t be the dynasty it is if Cael stayed loyal to Iowa St.He is who he is. I love it. He puts it on the line and is not shy with his opinions. Vulgar, yes, but at least he's authentic.
Lol it's been deleted.He is who he is. I love it. He puts it on the line and is not shy with his opinions. Vulgar, yes, but at least he's authentic.