ATownPoke is a good guy. He's entitled to his respectful opinion even if we all believe he is wrong. Cael had an "at will" contract with ISU. That works both ways. Nothing moral or immoral about it. A sudden change of heart can piss people off, but I don't think we should assign a code of conduct to a standard business transaction. Cael is not responsible for Bobby Douglas. Bobby Douglas is responsible for Bobby Douglas.
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Look, I don’t know enough about it but I’ve read plenty of autobiographies where the disgruntled made things up to look better so I’m not a believer based on this evidence.
I bought two of Lance Armstrong’s books, the Floyd Landis book and some political ones I’d rather not name which were all full of lies.
They were closer to winning one last year than Iowa ...
Not that there is anything wrong with that in my book.
Well to be fair to you… there was definitely a typo in there that changes the tone. What I meant to type was… “These ARENT body shots to Cael and PSU”
The Lance Armstrong 30 for 30 is mindboggling. He's a complete POS.
I am not sure Zahid was mentally prepared. Maybe his fire was not lit.
The entire notion of an Ohio State wrestling dynasty is thoroughly nauseating.
If preventing that meant sacrificing Bobby Douglas, it was for the greater good.
If preventing that meant sacrificing Bobby Douglas, it was for the greater good.
Wick had not yet graduated from Wisconsin, and PSU did not offer his major.
His intended PSU College/Dept refused to transfer many of his Wisconsin credits. He apparently was not given any waiver option or any opportunity to demonstrate his subject matter knowledge. No comprehensive exam, no 3- or 6-credit independent research, etc.
He would've had to take an extra 3-4 semesters, with only 1 year of remaining athletic eligibility. And at PSU non-resident tuition rates.
So he went back home.
IIRC the Cael angle was: he was upset that Athletics just threw their hands in the air and made no attempt to call the dept to work something out. Wick was not a marginal student, he was an honors student from a conference school. If Wick were 60 lb heavier and ran a 4.4 40, Barbour would've tried to help (maybe, maybe not because Barbour).
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Yes, wildly interesting. Cowboy fan throws shade at Cael and our camp circles wagons. If I’m following, Poke has Cael masterminding/foreseeing events that had him taking ISU job to oust a mentor, all while knowing the PSU HC was coming his way shortly. While a hard sell here, Poke is adamant and eager to make the case. What he paints as immoral or reproach, many see as normal, legal human behavior in support of self or family interest. Poke throws love our way, but can’t quite hide a tangible disdain for Cael (like me with AJ). Neither side will ever crossover, but still fun reading.
Sidebar: Poke WAY more interesting, reasonable, and welcome than Gollum's brother, the meddlesome mildturk.
Turns out she was a complete lunatic. Got arrested for domestic battery for beating her husband (MLB pitcher Chuck Finley) with her high-heels while he was driving.
Message Boards in a nutshell, both sides defend their guys and the home court wins through numbers game.
ATown is a great guy but remember he's not a Penn State fan nor should we expect him to be. He's been very cordial here and he's going to defend his guy and he did it in a way that ruffled feathers here obviously. I motion we just change the subject when it clearly won't go anywhere.
I think opposing viewpoints are great always (as long as they can be reasoably discussed, which doesn't happen on certain boards I won't name) and I've been welcomed on his board, which I'll repeat is extremely tame long before DT's hiring.
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A much better solution would be to turn it into a political or religious discussion.
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