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Do you ever feel like you've been cheated?

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I blame myself for watching my first championship game in a few years. Between the commercials and officiating.
But anyone that can't see that the games with MSU and WI were called differently is fooling themselves. I mean Wilson (I think that was his name) has two blatant charge calls ignored, and then they miss the foot OOB on the Duke player (who stood on the line for literally 2 seconds) and the tipped ball. Both at a critical juncture with the game down to one posession. It reminds me of the calls we routinely see in Big10 games against the Big Boys. Critical 1s down late in the game called back, or the other team given a 1st down when they were stopped. Give a good team some extra chnaces and eventually they will make a play. You could see the exasperation on Izzo's face on the sideline (caught him on camera ssaing (this is f***n bull****). When two great coaches like Izzo and Ryan can see it, how can the announcers be so oblivious to it?

ANd while I will not lose sleep over the Big10 getting hosed (hey it kept us from seeing Delaney), it will be a long time before I waste a few hours watching another championship game.
 
At every level past HS, basketball has made me feel that way for over

20 years. it is about as honest and straightforward as horseracing or boxing. the game is BS.
 
Officiating has always been one-sided and crooked.

Now that we are in the Hi Def, multi-million camera era, it's there for all to see. In the old days, they got away with it.

Hell, they are still getting away with it. It's just that now we see what they are getting away with, on 80 inch televisions.
 
Re: At every level past HS, basketball has made me feel that way for over


Exactly - I am not a huge basketball fan but I have no idea how they are instructed to make charge/block calls. I watched last night with a licensed ref and he had no explanation for me. Several times the Duke players ran out of control right into a WI player who had is arms up straight over his head and was in position and Duke got block after block. My comment to the ref I was watching with was - What is the defender supposed to do other than simply get out of the way and allow a layup and he really had no answer. Give coach K credit - as soon as he saw that happening he had his guys driving every time.

I would love to see a show where a referee actually sat down with an interviewer and went over calls and explain how and why they are made the way they are because as a viewer it seems completely random.
This post was edited on 4/7 9:14 AM by GoNavy
 
It's all about the $$$$$$$$$$. The broadcasters do not care

if it's right or wrong, they just want a game with enough action to keep the viewers occupied. Blatant calls or non calls are rampant and no one wants to address it. Do not bother, kill or maim the goose that is laying the golden eggs.
 
Uh, govt, church, academia, journalists, cops........

It's more the norm than the exception.
 
As a fan and PSU alum,

1968
1969
1973
1994
Unbeaten, untied, and denied by those I wouldn't even classify as a pundit.


Ohio State 2014
Michigan 2005
Nebraska 2013
Michigan 2002

This post was edited on 4/7 1:09 PM by john4psu
 
20 years? All the way back to the late 50s-early 60s, Mendy Rudolph was

the personal referee for Red Auerbach's Celtics. Playing them at Boston Garden was like the Globetrotters vs the Generals. Nothing can be done about it, so you just have to roll with it and try to NOT let them affect the game in the last minutes.
This post was edited on 4/7 10:59 AM by EPC FAN
 
When the Badgers lost on their home court by 10 to Duke,


were they outplayed then or was it bad officiating? I need to make sure I chalk it up in the right column.



This post was edited on 4/7 10:40 AM by Chris92
 
How 'bout Coach Dale's Hickory Huskers in 1951?

...... talk about some biased officiating.
 
First time I watched the finals in about 20 years and was horrified

by the blatant one-sided officiating. I could have cared less who won the game, because I really didn't care. I turned it off at half because I didn't feel like continuing to watch this garbage. It reminded me of why I stopped watching college BB several years ago.

I was appalled at the amount of time the Duke big men spent in the paint on the offensive side of the ball. Is there a 3 second rule anymore? I am really asking, because its been so long since I watched a college BB game, I don't know if that rule has been abolished over the last few years. I counted up 4 to to at least 8 seconds on numerous times that Duke players occupied the key, many times leading to scores or offensive rebounds. I did notice that the Wisky players were careful not to spend much time at all in the key.
 
Didn't watch it because regular season BB is meaningless


for the most part. Certainly not gonna waste 3 hours of time to watch 45 commercials when the game will come down to the last possession or two after 10 TOs in the last 2 minutes.

So expalin the missed Duke player with hiis foot on the line and the ignoring of the touching of the ball by the Duke player replay? Two posessions at the most critical time. Obvious calls for everyone in America to see except the officials. And if bo Ryan is calling them out, I tend to beleive him.
 
One-sided officiating in 1st half?.....you mean 7 fouls Duke and 2 Wiscy?

with Okafor and Justise Winslow in early foul trouble....is that the one-sided officiating that caused you to turn the game off?
 
Re: 20 years? All the way back to the late 50s-early 60s, Mendy Rudolph was

My mom and Mendy knew each other as kids at the Wilkes-Barre JCC. I recall him speaking at a JCC basketball banquet when I was a kid.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mendy_Rudolph
 
The Badgers missed 10-14 shots down the stretch.


Even if they got both calls, do they win? You've got a team on the ropes with foul trouble up 9 and couldn't KO them. We've all seen it a million times in sports, the team that blows the lead seldom comes back to win late.
 
Re: 20 years? All the way back to the late 50s-early 60s, Mendy Rudolph was

Paul, I grew up in West Pittston. Small world.
 
Yeah, if he really watched the game, I could understand.....

a little bit more in the 2nd half, but not the 1st half. Duke was the better team last night, but as a whole, the officiating was not good - especially in the most meaningful games which is kind of sad.
 
I don't know the answer, but I would have liked to see it


Again, no explanation for why the guy with the foot out of bounds does not get called or the replay overturned. Give a good tenma enough chances, they will capitalize. Would Duke have won without two undeserved posessions in the last two miutes? I don't know, but would have liked to have seen it.
 
Not sure I get your point


I know it has been discussed that a bunch of good coaches are from PA, much the same as a lot of HOF QBs who did not play for PSU. But is Kryzewskikkjjshsh from NC? Are Calipari and Pitino from KY? I am sure we could go on and on here. Was Paterno from PA?
 
In your experience, how have you been cheated by cops where

you can say that it is more the norm than the exception? Or are you just making this blanket statement against them cause you got a ticket somewhere along the line? Cops are out there risking their lives for asses like you. You should feel ashamed for throwing cops in there.
 
I watched it

I thought Duke outplayed them in that game. I was VERY impressed with their caliber of play.

Last night, I thought it was more even but Duke played better/hit their shots down the stretch. The officiating looked uneven to me but I'm biased. I thought the blows to their heads affected the Badgers adversly.
 
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