Well, when you willingly accept blame, it kind of becomes your job to refute it.
ESPN: Penn State is TONE DEAF
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Well, when you willingly accept blame, it kind of becomes your job to refute it.
I'm not sure I'd call it a trial balloon as that implies some type of plan going forward. I think this is a straight up panic move by the bot.
After arranging a mid-field prayer for AF and AM during UNL week, the University proudly proclaimed they would become the LEADER in the prevention of CSA. Not the leader in metallurgy research, or the leader in childhood cancer research. The leader in CSA prevention. Why? How many other schools had retired employees charged w/ acts of pedophilia? ALL OF THEM?
Knee jerk decision making done by paranoid morons - that helped completely taint a jury pool, and turn public perception against the school for at least a generation.
The less the current leadership of this University says or does, the better.
The accusations from the 70s was kept quiet, and certain OGBOT members knew about them, no?
Doesn't matter if it's true or not, without significant pushback on the narrative, everything "new" that comes out, no matter how flimsy, is considered true in the court of public opinion.
It was an audio clip. Did Fine's wife admit she was lying? Nice try dumbphuck.
Negative against Joe? I highly doubt it. This thing never passed the sniff test as far as accusations flung at Joe. He's human and we can all make mistakes, but no way am I buying that Joe harbored and/or covered up for a serial child rapist. You'd have to be talking about a different guy because that wasn't in Joe's DNA. The decisions that the man made throughout his entire career would tell you that he wouldn't do such a thing. Hell, when I was in school, he benched Pete Harris, Franco's brother and an All-American who led the nation in interceptions the prior year, for bad grades and improper conduct. So you're going to tell me that this man protected Sandusky? Bullshit! Bullshit! Bullshit!
lol, does Mark Schwarz still work for ESPN? Attn.: Linda Cohn.
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This. They should be out in front. Instead, the media is once again creating the narrative.
So Joe and many other people are liars? But the people who waited 40 years to come forward and only once money was available aren't to be questioned? Despite their stories not making sense and not one person corroborating their stories?
What about the people who went to the camps in that timeframe and disproved aspects of their stories? What about the fact that PSU likely didn't have conference call technology in 1971?
Not sure how any rational person can believe the 70s accusations.
That was my first thought too, but then, maybe he's just saying since others still feel strongly and no official proclamation professing Joe's innocence has been issued (a reasonable person can see it though), maybe it's more inflammatory to do it now than later.
Of course, the best time was certainly in the beginning! What burns me is that a man of character like Joe, who instead of passing the buck, makes a statement like I wish I had done more, and its used to hang him with, but a POS, win at all cost coach will go to their death defending their players eligibility and are virtually never called on the carpet (sans Baylor this past year).
Joe was about as culpable as the co-workers of the San Bernardino killers. Unfortunately we don't get to live our lives with the benefit of hindsight.
One of the most amazing things is that JS was reported to authorities back in 1998 and they didn't stop him. Heck, they allowed him to adopt children. The AG's office investigated him and couldn't find anything. The president of TSM didn't stop him. With the benefit of hindsight a lot of people could have done more but somehow the media has made this all about Joe.
What "other people"? Neither Joe nor "other people" addressed the two 70's allegations. And if a conversation was between Paterno and the kid, who could corroborate that story?
I'm not saying those allegations are true but they certainly have not been disproved.
Ohio State fans say that Joe knew but that Schiano and Bradley didn't know. The media seems to agree.
Apparently everybody in this sorry affair gets the benefit of the doubt except for Joe & C/S/S.
The general public will not understand that Paterno didn't know that Sandusky was a pedophile if they don't understand how these guys operate.
Of course, those of you who believe that Sandusky wasn't a pedophile are not going to like that. Tough. It's the truth.
JS' innocence or guilt has no bearing on the fact that this strategy has been an abject failure.
We don't need ESPN approval to do what we want at PSU. I'd tell ESPN if they want to cover sports at Penn State to either follow our direction or get the hell out of the way.
Well a strategy that the university refuses to adopt certainly doesn't have any chance of success.
The dozens of other people that also had to know if Joe knew.
Joe did address the 70s allegations, when he said he didn't know prior to 2001.
You act like the allegations are gospel, there is way more out there casting doubt on them than there is supporting them. If the kid actually did talk to Joe Paterno, some other coach or adult had to take him there, or he got away from everybody and someone would remember him being lost.
If you watched the clip you know Davis doesn't believe any of that will happen, and that it should if they're going to do it.
Actually I think he said that he spoke to two officials over the phone and that he recognized Joe's voice. And he remembers this from more than 40 years ago.
You are just making guesses on how it could have happened. No one knows how it could have happened or if it even happened. I'm not saying that it did or did not happen, but no one really knows except for the victim since Paterno is gone. And yes, that is very frustrating because we will never know without a doubt if it is true or false.
Goes back to what I have been saying for quite awhile now... we will never know the truth. It's always going to be a gray area.
The University hasn't defended JVP.
Almost 10K posts - nearly all of them troll posts. Think if you'd have spent that time on some other worthy endeavor, like collecting aluminum cans or selling your plasma...
The 70's incidents are only gray to an idiot.
Screw the fact that Joe was a great football coach. The more important point is that he was an honorable man that did things the right way. His "Grand Experiment" graduated players at a high level, especially minority players. Ne never had an NCAA violation. He lived a modest life, collected a modest salary, and was a great philanthropist. Yet what we get from the media is and acknowledgement that he was a great football coach but a lousy human being. B.S.!
This is what we get in wikipedia: An investigation conducted by former FBI director Louis Freeh concluded in July 2012 that Paterno concealed facts relating to Sandusky's sexual abuse of young boys.[5][6] The investigation also uncovered information that Paterno may have persuaded university officials not to report Sandusky to authorities in 2001.
They might as well say that innocent until proven guilty no longer applies and that they've proclaimed Joe guilty because they can make money telling their one sided stories.
Logically, it had to happen one of those ways, take your pick.
Joe said he didn't know about anything prior to 2001, that is enough proof the 70s victims are lying.
Joe did indicate in his GJ testimony that he may have heard about the 1998 incident, but he was not sure. Of course, as many here like to point out, he was old and may have just forgotten some things. So an incident happening 35-40 years ago may have slipped his mind.
In fact, he did say that he didn't remember about another incident, not that he absolutely was never told of one.
Joe did indicate in his GJ testimony that he may have heard about the 1998 incident, but he was not sure. Of course, as many here like to point out, he was old and may have just forgotten some things. So an incident happening 35-40 years ago may have slipped his mind.
It's not something you forget.
I wouldn't think so, but Paterno indicated that may have been the case with the 1998 incident... a full 20+ years closer to his testimony.
A kid comes up to Joe in the '70s and tells him that sandusky did something vile to him. Joe tells the kid to scram because he has a football season to worry about.
It's amazing that anyone could be so stupid as to believe that.
It has been proven that the campers showered in East halls. They are not communal showers. It is two stalls. There is no standing room of people waiting and watching. Do you need more proof?
No, what he wrote is correct. He didn't get into whether Joe was actually culpable or not. He just said there are strong feelings on both sides. Meaning, one side is fully convinced he's culpable (100%), the other side is fully convinced he's not culpable (0%).
He could have worded it a little clearer, but he's not wrong in what he wrote (technically speaking).
The rest of the piece is actually fairly balanced, and not full of histrionics like a lot of other pieces. Until someone gives them something solid to stand on, most writers aren't going to get up there and shout Joe is innocent. They're going to hedge their bets until then. And that's the thoughtful ones. The rest are all up in arms.
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