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Facundo jobbed at Michigan team state finals

I have not seen any of the videos, but, just because the athlete thinks he is ok doesn't mean he is. Many of us know athletes that went right back in after a concussion only to realize later that is was a bad idea. The question, really, is whether or not the athlete was concussed, and that requires a specific evaluation protocol. Based on all the discussions, it would appear that the eval, if any, was a brief matside how are you doing and not an actual concussion protocol test which would take at least a few minutes even for the briefest one.
Makes you wonder what the actual injury was, if anything.
Agree, but in this case there doesn’t seem to be a basis for the concussion. Wind knocked out....possible. But he didn’t hit his head. He then got up like any other wrestler and went to the center and assumed the neutral ready position.

His coach then called for a discussion and only when the ref walks away like a minute later does the coach say something to Rojas who then takes a knee. That was weird.

I know what a concussion looks like and sometimes it looks like nothing right away. I get that. Usually, though, we need a hit to the head.
 
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...I don’t remember the specific situation- college or high school - but I remember a similar occurrence where the wrestler was determined to be unable to continue...
... his coach told the referee and the opposing coach that his wrestler would return to wrestle and that the official should stop the bout after one second and he would forfeit to the other wrestler...
...a rare occasion of good sportsmanship... :)

That wouldn’t really work in this case as 6 points would have won the dual for Davison (this might’ve even been the last match I think?), but 3 or 4 wouldn’t have and Facundo was only up 5-2 counting the point for the slam.

Watching it again in slow motion, it does look like his head bounces off the mat (after his back hits), so maybe it’s legit. The coach’s actions just seem a bit odd to say the least. In the video in the OP, 40 seconds pass between when the coach calls for a trainer and the video ends. Hopefully he was just on another mat, because that seems like a long time... (and that would potentially explain why it was the coach that called for the trainer and not them coming out on their own)
 
I was coaching at a dual tournament at St John's University in MN when my 184 pounder was kicking the crud out of his opponent. The opponent tweaked his knee but he kept on wrestling after injury time. Later in the match my kid had the other bellied out and was swapping his 1/2 nelsons from left to right when he inadvertently place the lad in a full nelson. The coach called for recovery time and the kid decided to cash it in and he left the mat limping like crazy (his knee was tweaked)

So we lost by DQ on an injury that had nothing to do with the illegal hold.

We still won the dual but it made it closer than we wanted it to be.
 
...I don’t remember the specific situation- college or high school - but I remember a similar occurrence where the wrestler was determined to be unable to continue...
... his coach told the referee and the opposing coach that his wrestler would return to wrestle and that the official should stop the bout after one second and he would forfeit to the other wrestler...
...a rare occasion of good sportsmanship... :)

Steve Mocco owes his 2003 NCAA crown to Bobby Douglas. 2nd round Mocco called for slam, Iowa State wrestler clearly injured and about to win by DQ. Douglas stepped in and did the one second start/stop to allow Mocco to stay on the championship side.



*edit* not a slam, but illegal hold.
 
That wouldn’t really work in this case as 6 points would have won the dual for Davison (this might’ve even been the last match I think?), but 3 or 4 wouldn’t have and Facundo was only up 5-2 counting the point for the slam.

Watching it again in slow motion, it does look like his head bounces off the mat (after his back hits), so maybe it’s legit. The coach’s actions just seem a bit odd to say the least. In the video in the OP, 40 seconds pass between when the coach calls for a trainer and the video ends. Hopefully he was just on another mat, because that seems like a long time... (and that would potentially explain why it was the coach that called for the trainer and not them coming out on their own)


FWIW a concussion can occur without the head hitting anything, jarring motion can cause one just as easily.
 
I watched a bunch of times. With the angle that was available there was no definitive contact. Doesn't mean it didn't happen, but it's hard to see. Possibly a while to injury rather than a direct contact.
 
As to the Bobby Douglas, I was there at that NCAAs. When Bobby did that, and clearly he was on the mat telling the ref to go one second his guy guy was going to forfeited, I didnt understand why. So i turned to the guy next to me. His response and I paraphrase as it's been a while, was although Bobby Douglas is with an Iowa team, had he DQed Mocco, (from Iowa) he possible wouldn't have had a home to go back to. That comment surprised the hell out of me even in jest. Iowa is passionate/crazy about this stuff.

Bobby was and is a class act.

As to Facundo, in that high school match, that is a borderline slam could go either way.

In college, that is simply a great takedown.
 
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