Ohio State vs Minnesota / Iowa vs Nebraska
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All normal stuff.
Said this before, but that guy is lucky nobody cares about wrestling. He would have been gone long ago if this sport was covered by the legacy media.
madden doesnt, nor do any of the good hawk fans.
Only the trash bottom feeders do.
Only the trash bottom feeders do.
It's not 99% but 1% is too many. It's juvenile and when someone isn't intelligent enough to have a conversation they revert to insults because that's all they got.
If it’s wrong to enjoy @jmadden1998 coming into the den to stick pins in all our Lion paws, I don’t want to be right.
Great dual at CHA last night. Buchanan’s a beast. Can’t wait for the rematch with our Josh.
Great dual at CHA last night. Buchanan’s a beast. Can’t wait for the rematch with our Josh.
Aint that the truth and not just in wrestling boards lol
...and that is the 5th stage of grief.
They used to yell that crap at other coaches. I watched Perry yell back at Terry "i kicked your ass in the room, shutup."
Of course Cael telling Tom to go stand in his corner before we have a bug meets windshield moment was the best.
As long as the Slumlord is calling the shots, they're going to have a tough time attracting a good coach.
Give Askren a DT contract and he will tell you how much he likes Iowa and take the job.
Reality is, as long as Cael is at PSU, no matter how much you pay a coach, good luck with consistently beating PSU.
That and it was 14 years ago. If you are going to insult someone, at least be relevant.
I knew there was a reason we let you hang around.
Seriously, don't spread the word.
This is also known as "Friday."
Keuter is a stretched out 97. Clearly a very good athlete, but skinny a rail. All the elite heavys, Steveson, Greg, Wyatt and perhaps Feldman beat him handily. I'd be shocked if he AA's...
IMO it will be 1 Parco, 2 Lovett, 3 Shayne.
B10 Tournament doesn't seed on bonus points or care about home/away. Look at their overall records -- Parco will have the best overall W-L record (18-1), vs Lovett (15-2) and Shayne (17-1).
Also, Parco will have more ranked wins (not counting each other):
- Parco: #5 McNeil (UNC), #8 D'Emilio (anOSU), #9 Abas (Stanford), #13 Webster (Illin'), #17 Young (OKST), #25 Cartella (NW), #29 Roberts (Goofers)
- Lovett: #5 McNeil, #10 Alvarez (Rider), #14 Realbuto (UNI), #24 Gilcher (scUM), #29 Roberts.
- Van Ness: #8 D'Emilio, #12 Williams (Little Rock), #13 Webster, #24 Gilcher.
Lovett will then get the 2, based upon H2H vs Shayne.
If Parco loses before B10s, then 1 Lovett, 2 Van Ness, 3 Parco, because then it's no longer a 3-way H2H for the 1. But Young is Parco's toughest remaining opponent.
Ultimately, these 3 guys are likely the 2-3-4 seeds at nationals, based upon their B10 Tournament finishes, behind 1 Henson. Worst case for any of them is getting the 5.
Kueter beat Feldman in the dual, but I could see it being reversed in a tourney where Kueter has to face several HWTs in a weekend.
I think Trumble beats him too. And Schultz might swallow Kueter whole.
It’s going to be interesting to see what the trajectory of Ok St is vs Iowa at the end of the season after nationals. DT is obviously bringing the entire PSU model to Stillwater, so we’ll see if what PSU has done under Cael is due to Cael and the structural advantages of PSU or if he’s revolutionized the approach to training, nutrition, coaching, etc in a way that is replicable elsewhere.
If it looks like DT is closing the gap to the top by the end of the season, I think there will be an avalanche of “new school” hires, and Iowa will have to adapt. Askren is the big fish in the pond if he wants to coach. I don’t think he “hates” Iowa as much as he sees what Brands is doing perpetuating an outdated “Gable approach” to wrestling coaching compared to the new way Cael does things which aligns much better with the way he trains kids at AWA. If Askren isn’t interested, guys like Nolf, Hall, or Zain will be in high demand.
I was really surprised Lovett could not generate much at all. After watching Van Ness against Parco ,I would of thought Lovett would be able to press Parco more. Too much upper body and head action. Sometimes you got to get to leg or ankle.
I would not automatically anoint Askren as the next great college HC.
Askren is great at what he does: runs a high level technical wrestling camp and shoots his mouth off a lot on social media, FRL, twitter, blogs, etc.
He's a tad of a loose cannon. Unsure if he has the discipline or desire to deal with the off-the-mat tasks of college wrestling (recruiting, fundraisers, alumni, networking) and how many college admin / ADs would want to deal w/ him.
Then again.... Iowa lets Terry Brands roam free in public without his parole officer, so what do I really know?
Askren is great at what he does: runs a high level technical wrestling camp and shoots his mouth off a lot on social media, FRL, twitter, blogs, etc.
He's a tad of a loose cannon. Unsure if he has the discipline or desire to deal with the off-the-mat tasks of college wrestling (recruiting, fundraisers, alumni, networking) and how many college admin / ADs would want to deal w/ him.
Then again.... Iowa lets Terry Brands roam free in public without his parole officer, so what do I really know?
For nationals, I would love to see 1 Henson, 2 Parco, 3 Lovett, 4 Van Ness.
One big difference is the big-hitter donors.
Richison's goal is to make wrestling more prominent in the state of Oklahoma. He tried to hire Taylor at OU earlier. So he is completely on board with Taylor's vision of boosting the Cowboy RTC to make the varsity program more appealing.
Slumlord Bob has not shown any propensity to support the HWC. He's all-in on the varsity team. He's also not a wrestler -- he's in it as an Iowa alum. He would need to be convinced to spend his money on the RTC with downstream benefit to the varsity team. Hard to say if he can be sold on that vision, but I'm sure Brands as a former Olympic/World Champ wants a stronger RTC too.
Besides, do Dake, Burroughs, Nolf, etc., know any good ski bunny jokes?
As much as I like to poke fun at Brands, and as eternally grateful I am that you have him and we have Cael, he has a winning record at Iowa that few can rival.
According to the Iowa team page, here are Brands’ coaching accolades:
- 277-27-1 (.912) overall record at Iowa and 294-47-1 (.861) career record.
- 133-14 (.914) Big Ten record at Iowa
- While at Iowa (18 yrs), 4 NCAA team titles, 6 Big Ten team titles, 13 NCAA champions, 26 Big Ten champions and 104 All-Americans.
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I don't count the double recruiting classes years. It's mot convenience, it's principles. Ok, 1 national title and 2 runner-up finishes. What coach had better results?pennstate.forums.rivals.com
Last night you argued up and down that Brands was the best coach in wrestling not named Cael and there was no one else to go to.
Didn't see the Madden post you reference but the above stats would certainly seem to support his argument.
I think the floor for an Iowa program right now is pretty high and it more or less recruits itself. And for about 5-10 years Brands crushed it. The decade or so since, however…
Truly awesome stats in isolation. As we all know, wrestling has a long history of dynasty runs by one program dominating for a while. It’s crazy that those statistics are essentially overlooked…. it’s like Spencer throwing his 2nd place trophy in the trash. A brutal sport as it is beautiful.
Brands has been one of the best coaches for a long time. His record speaks for itself. The problem in the moment is that the sport is changing and he’s not changing with it.
Yes and no.
Brands has stuck with his recruiting practices (which appear to be more results/rankings based than athleticism/growth-based), and with his training practices.
He has definitely embraced the portal and NIL, moreso than any other coach in the country. Which isn't enough of course, but he's not stagnant.
That pathetic Michigan team that was thoroughly embarrassed last night is the end game of portalling in half a team of mercenaries every year.
