That seems a bit high, especially given the Buckeye injuries yesterday. What say you?
Fan Duel says OSU -5.5
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Agreed--it will come down to 3.5 or 4 most likely
I still think part of it is we haven't had much success against Ohio State and our SOS so far this year is now at 112 after playing UMass--it's going to get way better but we haven't been tested. Ohio State kind of was.
Not sure but they played their 4th RB (Hayden) and WR Egbuka didn't even make the trip. OSU isn't saying how long they expect them to be out for. This is definitely a game I will watch. Should be a great one and could go down to the last possession.
About right. Home field generally accounts for 3. At neutral site they would be slight favorites.
They have a couple injuries but a better schedule…and our offense hasn’t really impressed.
Two of our games were in bad weather. And the patsies don’t allow for a full offense. So a lot of unknowns there. Hope,the weather is great so we can see both teams bring their AAA games.
Just checked …..rain Friday 50%, 25% chance on Sat, 10% on Sunday. So Sat is transition day so will have to monitor the weather.
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I think it will drop. If home field is worth 3 points, then by game time I see it being a 3.5 or 4 point spread with PSU being the slightest of dogs on a neutral field.
I think that 5.5 is a bit high as well. In addition to the first 3 on the RB depth chart being injured D Burke their top CB got injured as well. To me that is the most potentially significant injury. Yesterday their 4th string RB ran better than the first 3 although both the play calling and OL play was MUCH better than it has been all season probably the best since the Georgia game.
If Burke is out next week that presents a major problem for OSU as his play has been a big part of the major improvement in the OSU defense this year.
As I have stated in previous posts on this board I think that this is the most beatable OSU team since the Fickle year. If I am a PSU fan I am asking JF: If not now, when?
If Burke is out next week that presents a major problem for OSU as his play has been a big part of the major improvement in the OSU defense this year.
As I have stated in previous posts on this board I think that this is the most beatable OSU team since the Fickle year. If I am a PSU fan I am asking JF: If not now, when?
Take the nits no matter the spread. This is the year!
Seems like a spread at least partly based on OSU's dominance over the last dozen years.
That is too much if we're trying to honestly compare OSU 2023 vs PSU 2023.
The way that I look at this game is that PSU is back. PSU is recruiting in the same strata as tOSU, Michigan....and our development as been similar. If CJF can keep our Assistant Coaches together, we will stack up against tOSU and beat them some years and they will beat us some years.....it is the first time since the sanctions were I could see us playing a B+ game and actually winning the game. The past 10 years we would have needed 2-3 INTS or a blocked field goal for a TD to win. We do not need such outliier events. One of the issues that we will face is that this is a new position for PSU. tOSU plays 3-4 games a year for the past 10 years that determined whether they went to the playoff or a Jan 1 bowl. The act of playing in these games is a benefit for tOSU as is being at home.
It now appears that we have a two game season......maybe Maryland gives us a game........but basically our season has been reduced to can we beat tOSU on the road and can we beat Mich at home......
It will be a fun ride as there are 5-10 programs that control their own destiny about getting into the playoff and we are one of them.
It now appears that we have a two game season......maybe Maryland gives us a game........but basically our season has been reduced to can we beat tOSU on the road and can we beat Mich at home......
It will be a fun ride as there are 5-10 programs that control their own destiny about getting into the playoff and we are one of them.
Most power ratings I’ve seen has OSU a few points better than us. So, this spread makes sense to me.
Most power ratings along with most fans are simply going by the powerhouse status of tOSU and recent history of the matchup. There's no question that tOSU has been Elite and we've only been very good. That said, if you're really examining the teams this year, it's pretty dead even in terms of talent and how the teams are playing. This is our year. It's PSU for the W.
Good power ratings don’t care at all about a team’s “status”…they are using numbers/stats, and not perceptions.
Our SOS is 112 as of today one spot ahead of Michigan so while we've dominated every game a very solid argument can be made we haven't played anyone that was a threat. Ohio State is at 60 so not much better but that's still relevant when comparing the teams
If you're going purely on numbers than we should be favored by even more this year. No system is perfect.
Okay, please summarize how Ohio State's numbers/stats for 2023 are better than Penn State's.
Our offense scores more points, has more first downs, has more rushing yards, has higher yards per attempt, has fewer interceptions, has more passing touchdowns, has more rushing touchdowns, has higher time of possession, has a higher 3rd down %, has a higher 4th down %, and has fewer penalties.
What exactly has impressed you about Ohio State's offense? Because they have more passing yards?
Actually, IMO, all of the rankings and stats, up to this point are meaningless because of many of the cupcake games. This is the time of the year when the jawing stops and the fun begins
Are you sure about that? Our Big10 opponents are 12-6. Theirs are 9-11.
Just because Notre Dame beat USC, who plays zero defense, that doesn't make Notre Dame good all of a sudden.
They aren’t. By game time this line should drop into an acceptable number. Neutral field PSU wins. So expect somewhere around two at game time.
I will humor you one time before you go on ignore, so savor it:
There is no single source for "strength of schedule", because it isn't actually scientific at all. Everyone makes up their own little formula that incorporates their own biases, and then people like you latch onto one of the various projections to argue whatever point you are trying to argue.
Despite all of that other bullshit our opponents have a combined record and theirs have a combined record, and my formula indicates that we have played teams which are having a significantly better season.
And I very much belive that you are an Ohio State fan masquerading on this site because you have entirely too much time on your hands, and nobody in your real life will interact with you. And 99.9% of your takes are hot garbage. Have a wonderful life.
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There is pretty much zero chance that this game would cross 3, barring some type of major injury news.
Not sure if it’s because PSU has elevated as much as O$U has come back to the field performance wise. They are still getting premier recruits vs. PSU. Rarely is Franklin recruiting against them. Let’s face it, O$U didn’t recruit Allar and hasn’t recruited Grunk. Day is not an Urban as a coach and never will be which helps.
I don't run college football power ratings, so I couldn't tell you. But I'm sure that "who" we've both played plays a role in it
Second time I’ve heard the term “power ratings” in regards to Vegas setting lines….. please explain.
Lol...valuing record without evaluating who they play is a great way to determine SOS. You're as wrong about me as you are in your evaluation. Everyone outside this board can acknowledge we've been more impressive in beating bad teams but OSU has played the better schedule. I love people saying they're going to ignore me. Childish as predictable because you can't intelligently discuss the sport due to bias.
Agree but let's see how it changes over the next week. I will say this... I think our team this year has the best chance to beat OSU of any recently even though we always seem to play them tough BUT I expect OSU to stack the box, take away our running game, play press coverage and force Aller to beat them downfield / over the top. Unfortunately, we have not yet shown any ability to do that and for that reason... I expect OSU to win a close one.
