For any that care, Shoop will be on the Finebaum show at 4:30 Eastern. basically in a couple minutes
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?s=finebaum
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?s=finebaum
He's in with the big boys now. John Chavis at TAMU, Will Muschamp at South Carolina, Kirby Smart at UGA, Kevin Steele at Auburn, the new DC at Alabama Jeremy Pruitt, formerly the DC at Georgia, are all terrific recruiters and outstanding DCs/HCs. And he has burned his bridges at PSU.PPG's Audrey Snyder with the tweets....
Certainly not 'Bob the Builder' from his comments.
Audrey Snyder @audsnyder4 6m6 minutes ago
Bob Shoop on the buyout: "Right now the buyout is something I'm going to resolve with Penn State and I'd like to keep it at that."
Audrey Snyder @audsnyder4 9m9 minutes ago
Shoop: "All I want to do is win. I want to play winning football. ... It's about 3rd down stops, playing well in the RZ, creating takeaways"
Audrey Snyder @audsnyder4 12m12 minutes ago
Bob Shoop on Tennessee's defense: "I like the fact this isn't a rebuild...."
Audrey Snyder @audsnyder4 6m6 minutes ago
Shoop: "Tennessee is always one of those jobs you kind of keep in the back of ur mind. ... This is as big time as big time gets to me."
Players have transferred in the past including a certain QB who transferred to Delaware as well.
I will not wear that gaudy orange, I will not. It is not my color wheel and I'm not gonna wear it.
Penn State should pre-empt him and file suit in PA state court in Centre County to get an injunction to block him being UT DC until he pays PSU. I wonder what UT thinks; I bet his contract there will have a buyout clause.
Not taking anything away from Shoop, but that "hell of a good defensive coordinator" couldn't seem to make a game-saving stop to save his ass. Caused considerable heartburn on this board.
Well I won't say Shoop wasn't a good defensive coordinator, but let's not get carried away here man. There were more than a few occasions where Shoop's vaunted defense couldn't get the job done against good teams in crunch time. The most recent example was the bowl game where the team draws within a TD with 6 plus minutes left. What a perfect time for a 3 and out, right? Didn't happen. The D eventually stopped them but with only a little more than 2 minutes left and after having to use several timeouts. Maybe you and I were watching different games, but Shoop's defense, especially the LBs, were terrible against running QBs (e.g. Maryland) all year.
I hope things work out well for Shoop, but based upon his comments, I don't know if anything more "broke down" than Shoop seeing what he perceived to be a better "stepping stone" to get another head coaching job and so he bailed on his buddy Franklin and PSU. His comment when asked about Tennessee's defense that "I like the fact that this isn't a rebuild . . ." speaks volumes to me. Clearly, he has ambitions and was concerned that his resume would look worse if PSU doesn't become a national program in the next few years and, worse yet, if HIS defense struggled. Give me a defensive coordinator who is up for the challenge of turning this program around any day. Goodbye Bobby, we hardly knew you, good luck and don't let the door hit you on the you know what on the way out.
Shoop and Reeder are losses. The others are guys who are low on the depth chart and will go to schools where they hope to play more. Reeder's move to Delaware has been explained by his homesickness and the fact that his brother just committed to the Blue Hens where his father also played. Shoop is more of a mystery, apparently he bought what they are selling. He's getting more money, although the buyout situation is a bit confusing. I don't think he was getting out just to get out.
Sandy better damn well make him pay every penny of his buyout. If she doesn't the PSU faithful will have her head on a platter.
PSU was in a bubble in terms of coaches not leaving. So just because it didn't happen at PSU before (or rather, often) doesn't mean the sky is falling.
I seem to recall Devlin going to an FCS school at a position of need and the world didn't end.
The quote from Shoop that really gets under my skin is this one:PPG's Audrey Snyder with the tweets....
Certainly not 'Bob the Builder' from his comments.
Audrey Snyder @audsnyder4 6m6 minutes ago
Bob Shoop on the buyout: "Right now the buyout is something I'm going to resolve with Penn State and I'd like to keep it at that."
Audrey Snyder @audsnyder4 9m9 minutes ago
Shoop: "All I want to do is win. I want to play winning football. ... It's about 3rd down stops, playing well in the RZ, creating takeaways"
Audrey Snyder @audsnyder4 12m12 minutes ago
Bob Shoop on Tennessee's defense: "I like the fact this isn't a rebuild...."
Audrey Snyder @audsnyder4 6m6 minutes ago
Shoop: "Tennessee is always one of those jobs you kind of keep in the back of ur mind. ... This is as big time as big time gets to me."
Shoop: "Tennessee is always one of those jobs you kind of keep in the back of ur mind. ... This is as big time as big time gets to me."
Really? Tennessee is more "big time" than PSU? I know we've been down and we are still suffering the effects from the unwarranted sanctions, but over the last 10-15 years, has Tennessee really been any better than us? And they didn't even have any stinkin' unwarranted sanctions to deal with. Give me a brake buddy!
There is a lot of anger in this thread. You guys will be ok. I do not believe Coach Shoop meant any disrespect to PSU in his press conference when he made reference to UT's defense not being a rebuilding job. I think he simply meant that UT has all the necessary pieces in place to be a contender.
I can't believe we actually were happy to have this dork. No wonder he wants out of here: he's afraid we would find out what a douchebag he is.
Tennessee can have him. I'm glad this prick is gone.
Tennessee can have him. I'm glad this prick is gone.
Look, anyone can pick at that list and make tiny corrections to the verbiage but the overall point remains. This amount of turmoil is unprecedented pre and post-sanctions
Lets just count the number of times Mr Drama Queen makes up his own facts....all for the purpose of creating drama:
Bullsh&t made up drama underlined in boldface::
"OK let's start here. I don't know you and you don't know me so let's not start by assigning motives to each other. I've been on this site for years and have been a fan longer than that. There are a few here who can attest to it.
Maybe mutiny is a strong word and emotionally charged so let's call it a vote of no confidence. You have an O-Coordinator who was fired (rightfully so), then you have your starting Junior QB thanking everyone in the world and everyone at Penn State except his own head coach for the last 2 years. You have a 4 star DT de-commit, after it becomes apparent that the D-Coordinator who was recently quoted as saying he would like to stay at Penn State for "many" "many" years and "as long as Penn State would have him" suddenly changes his mind and makes a lateral move to a D-Coordinator position at another University (and I'm sorry to all the Shoop-haters out there, but he was a pretty special coach and if you don't agree you are in direct opposition to several high paid head coaches at the best football factories in the country--which means you're probably wrong). I completely understand damage control--but wake up for God's sake!
You have to act quickly to promote your LB coach to D-Coordinator to stop further flight, your offensive line coach of XXX years also bails (or gets respectfully shown the door, does it really matter) and you find yourself in PR damage control a month before signing day. You have 2 players ask for transfers, one going from FBS to FCS just to get out of dodge and another player rumored to be doing the same. Meanwhile this is all occurring at PSU, where it has never happened before.
Now I'm not saying the sky is falling--but c'mon. I think the question of what's going on in that locker-room is a valid one!"
So....pretty much your entire "14-year-old-troll" post. What a douche.
Other than that.....You rock dude!!!
Ok I understand that got under your skin just a little bit. Artistic expression aside most of the underlined examples are facts. Not sure if you're the bury your head in the sand type or the blindfolded bat variety but the facts remain the facts. If PSU and CJF were in front of this at all do you think that maybe some good news would have been reserved to mitigate the negative wave rolling through? This reveals some major weakness in the core of the current administration. If you can't see it I can't help you. Or maybe you're just trying to be cool--that sems to fit. I'm going with that one.
Where have you heard this? Did he say that on Finebaum's program or at a press conference? Link?
LOL some of your underlined examples are supposition, not facts. Players dropping to FCS just to get out of dodge? Maybe said players are finding out that's the only way they'll get playing time (Reeder is a different situation). Never happened at PSU before -- ummmm remember Pat Devlin? And PSU has never been through the disruptions that two complete turnovers in coaching staffs in 4-5 years has on coaches and players. Hack didn't thank Franklin... the kid wasn't speaking off notes, and initially deflected the question. I don't think he intended to do it when he did, and then sort of decided now was as good a time as any. It may have just been an oversight, speaking off the top of his head. And if he has a beef, so what? How many of Joe's players had problems with him at one point, including some of his best?
Good news reserved to mitigate... I've never worked anywhere that "reserves" good news in a drawer somewhere in case they need it. By its definition, news gets old, you don't sit on it. Now, if you know you have bad news about to break, maybe you hold some good news a week or so, but that assumes you had some good news in the first place. What good news that's been released lately would you suggest they held back on, and would it really have made everyone go, oh lookey, everything's fine at Penn State.
We had a bunch of "bad news" unveiled in a short period of time. But best to get it out and over, rather than dripping out over a longer period of time and prolonging all this teeth gnashing and hand wringing.
No matter how many times you refer to your PURE BULLSHIT as "facts".....they remain pure bullshit.
Even if you do invoke "Artistic Expression" LOL
