FC: PSU wants Paternos to return interview notes

[nitnyheel]

HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) -- The fate of some 120 sets of notes from interviews after a child-abuse scandal rocked Penn State is now in the hands of a Pennsylvania judge.

The notes are from interviews conducted with Penn State employees and others after assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky was charged with child molestation in 2011.

Judge John Leete heard Wednesday about that issue and other disputes in a civil lawsuit by two former Penn State coaches and former head coach Joe Paterno's family against the NCAA. He didn't immediately rule.

Penn State says it mistakenly turned over the notes and that its employees' privacy rights are at stake.

Leete also is refereeing a dispute about whether the NCAA can get access to material surrounding a memoir by Paterno's son Jay, a plaintiff in the case and a former assistant under his father.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/penn-state-wants-paternos-return-interview-notes-173942687--ncaaf.html

 

[Marshall30]

Already given up.

Next?

 

[Obliviax]

LOL...I guess I lost track and didn't know that Jay had them. Wow. So they are arguing that they now want back what they don't want to give them? Is that correct?

 

[Ten Thousan Marbles]

HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) -- The fate of some 120 sets of notes from interviews after a child-abuse scandal rocked Penn State is now in the hands of a Pennsylvania judge.

The notes are from interviews conducted with Penn State employees and others after assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky was charged with child molestation in 2011.

Judge John Leete heard Wednesday about that issue and other disputes in a civil lawsuit by two former Penn State coaches and former head coach Joe Paterno's family against the NCAA. He didn't immediately rule.

Penn State says it mistakenly turned over the notes and that its employees' privacy rights are at stake.

Leete also is refereeing a dispute about whether the NCAA can get access to material surrounding a memoir by Paterno's son Jay, a plaintiff in the case and a former assistant under his father.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/penn-state-wants-paternos-return-interview-notes-173942687--ncaaf.html

LOL. Nah. There's no politics in this at all.

 

[psuro]

Maybe he will make them into "Civil Court HD".

 

[jerseylion109]

hahah yeah not getting those back.

 

[bjf1984]

HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) -- The fate of some 120 sets of notes from interviews after a child-abuse scandal rocked Penn State is now in the hands of a Pennsylvania judge.

The notes are from interviews conducted with Penn State employees and others after assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky was charged with child molestation in 2011.

Judge John Leete heard Wednesday about that issue and other disputes in a civil lawsuit by two former Penn State coaches and former head coach Joe Paterno's family against the NCAA. He didn't immediately rule.

Penn State says it mistakenly turned over the notes and that its employees' privacy rights are at stake.

Leete also is refereeing a dispute about whether the NCAA can get access to material surrounding a memoir by Paterno's son Jay, a plaintiff in the case and a former assistant under his father.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/penn-state-wants-paternos-return-interview-notes-173942687--ncaaf.html

How much do ya' wanna' bet that..........

Nah. Couldn't be.

LOL

 

[nits74]

HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) -- The fate of some 120 sets of notes from interviews after a child-abuse scandal rocked Penn State is now in the hands of a Pennsylvania judge.

The notes are from interviews conducted with Penn State employees and others after assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky was charged with child molestation in 2011.

Judge John Leete heard Wednesday about that issue and other disputes in a civil lawsuit by two former Penn State coaches and former head coach Joe Paterno's family against the NCAA. He didn't immediately rule.

Penn State says it mistakenly turned over the notes and that its employees' privacy rights are at stake.

Leete also is refereeing a dispute about whether the NCAA can get access to material surrounding a memoir by Paterno's son Jay, a plaintiff in the case and a former assistant under his father.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/penn-state-wants-paternos-return-interview-notes-173942687--ncaaf.html

I'm sure they're deeply concerned about employee privacy rights. What a joke.

 

[MichaelJackSchmidt]

HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) -- The fate of some 120 sets of notes from interviews after a child-abuse scandal rocked Penn State is now in the hands of a Pennsylvania judge.

The notes are from interviews conducted with Penn State employees and others after assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky was charged with child molestation in 2011.

Judge John Leete heard Wednesday about that issue and other disputes in a civil lawsuit by two former Penn State coaches and former head coach Joe Paterno's family against the NCAA. He didn't immediately rule.

Penn State says it mistakenly turned over the notes and that its employees' privacy rights are at stake.

Leete also is refereeing a dispute about whether the NCAA can get access to material surrounding a memoir by Paterno's son Jay, a plaintiff in the case and a former assistant under his father.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/penn-state-wants-paternos-return-interview-notes-173942687--ncaaf.html

Does PSU want the copies or the originals back?

 

[71camaro]

Maybe he will make them into "Civil Court HD".

underrated post

 

[psu00]

HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) -- The fate of some 120 sets of notes from interviews after a child-abuse scandal rocked Penn State is now in the hands of a Pennsylvania judge.

The notes are from interviews conducted with Penn State employees and others after assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky was charged with child molestation in 2011.

Judge John Leete heard Wednesday about that issue and other disputes in a civil lawsuit by two former Penn State coaches and former head coach Joe Paterno's family against the NCAA. He didn't immediately rule.

Penn State says it mistakenly turned over the notes and that its employees' privacy rights are at stake.

Leete also is refereeing a dispute about whether the NCAA can get access to material surrounding a memoir by Paterno's son Jay, a plaintiff in the case and a former assistant under his father.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/penn-state-wants-paternos-return-interview-notes-173942687--ncaaf.html

Sure- absolutely no problem. They can give back the notes right after the Paterno's photocopy them.

 

[ChiTownLion]

Penn State wants Paterno lawyers to return interview notes
UPDATED 3:38 PM EDT Sep 09, 2015

On Wednesday, Penn State argued for the return of 2,000 pages of emails sent in 2011 and 2012 between the university's trustees and its lawyers.

Penn State, which was dropped as a defendant in the lawsuit in July, said it mistakenly turned over those records and the Freeh interview notes.

Full story: http://www.wtae.com/news/penn-state...=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=wtae

 

[JoeDidntKnow]

HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) -- The fate of some 120 sets of notes from interviews after a child-abuse scandal rocked Penn State is now in the hands of a Pennsylvania judge.

The notes are from interviews conducted with Penn State employees and others after assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky was charged with child molestation in 2011.

Judge John Leete heard Wednesday about that issue and other disputes in a civil lawsuit by two former Penn State coaches and former head coach Joe Paterno's family against the NCAA. He didn't immediately rule.

Penn State says it mistakenly turned over the notes and that its employees' privacy rights are at stake.

Leete also is refereeing a dispute about whether the NCAA can get access to material surrounding a memoir by Paterno's son Jay, a plaintiff in the case and a former assistant under his father.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/penn-state-wants-paternos-return-interview-notes-173942687--ncaaf.html

Sorry, not getting them back.

 

[CentexLion]

I'm sure they're deeply concerned about employee privacy rights. What a joke.

Are these the same people that we so concerned about employee rights that they were threatened with losing their job if they didn't talk to Freeh, and that they could have no lawyer present nor tape or take notes? Yeah. PSU really cares for it's employees

 

[Marshall30]

"Balls Jugan" name is in them.

 

[91Joe95]

Is PSU also asking for the confidentiality agreements they made with the employees, because they don't seem to have those either.

 

[CentexLion]

HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) -- The fate of some 120 sets of notes from interviews after a child-abuse scandal rocked Penn State is now in the hands of a Pennsylvania judge.

The notes are from interviews conducted with Penn State employees and others after assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky was charged with child molestation in 2011.

Judge John Leete heard Wednesday about that issue and other disputes in a civil lawsuit by two former Penn State coaches and former head coach Joe Paterno's family against the NCAA. He didn't immediately rule.

Penn State says it mistakenly turned over the notes and that its employees' privacy rights are at stake.

Leete also is refereeing a dispute about whether the NCAA can get access to material surrounding a memoir by Paterno's son Jay, a plaintiff in the case and a former assistant under his father.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/penn-state-wants-paternos-return-interview-notes-173942687--ncaaf.html

Maybe the BoT will also be asking Freeh back for his $8 million and Mitchell for his $4 million saying that they MISTAKENLY turned over the check to them.

 

[PSU77sh]

Unbelievable.

 

[marshall23]

PSU finally displays transparency and quickly calls it a mistake.

 

[91Joe95]

Unbelievable.

Its actions like this that support the 0.01% chance that the bot is/was merely incompetent during this entire mess.

 

[NittPicker]

What if someone within the university became fed up with all the manure the BoT has been shoveling? And what if that person "mistakenly" included the notes in question with other materials? OK, maybe not but there's no way the toothpaste will be put back into the tube. The university administration can't screw up then expect the court to be their savior.

 

[Zenophile]

Is PSU also asking for the confidentiality agreements they made with the employees, because they don't seem to have those either.

Wait. I thought they made everyone sign those verbal agreements.

 

[91Joe95]

Wait. I thought they made everyone sign those verbal agreements.

Apparently it was just some of them, all those whose last name began with "Erickson."

 

[marshall23]

The only "damaging" interviews occurred with Miss Vicky and Trustees. They will cling to the confidentiality myth, since they are terrified the truth will see the light of day. Posters have spent a week trashing a football coach. I suggest everyone look at the "roster" of the BOT circa 2011. These arrogant misanthropes torched Joe and the football program to satisfy their individual agendas. Last Saturday proved that their malfeasance is NOT a distant memory.

 

[Bobpsu]

Maybe he will make them into "Civil Court HD".

Hanging on to the past psuro ?

 

[nits74]

The only "damaging" interviews occurred with Miss Vicky and Trustees. They will cling to the confidentiality myth, since they are terrified the truth will see the light of day. Posters have spent a week trashing a football coach. I suggest everyone look at the "roster" of the BOT circa 2011. These arrogant misanthropes torched Joe and the football program to satisfy their individual agendas. Last Saturday proved that their malfeasance is NOT a distant memory.

Don't worry, we haven't forgotten. We can do both,although this is far, far more important.

 

[Player2BNamedL8r]

The oddest part of the article was that the NCAA wants Jay's contact information from his book and his political advisors during his brief run for lieutenant governor. Uhmm....that would be a big HELL NO!!

 

[marshall23]

This is like the student accidentally turning in his "cheat sheet" with his test paper. Even if they have to return them, it must have been like a holiday for the Paterno Legal Team.

 

[94LionsFan]

What if someone within the university became fed up with all the manure the BoT has been shoveling? And what if that person "mistakenly" included the notes in question with other materials?

I'd say that's a possibility. Blehar somehow got his hands on some of Erickson's notes after all.

 

[MichaelJackSchmidt]

I'd say that's a possibility. Blehar somehow got his hands on some of Erickson's notes after all.

Great. Now you've done it! Wondering how Ray secured Erickson's notes will awaken the trolls vis-a-vis last week's epic thread....I think it attracted 20,000+ views.

 

[baircub1!]

So... I would assume Paternity Lawyers have already read a great deal of the notes/ info turned over mistakenly by PSU... Found the info compelling enough to say " Hey Judge... Don't take our word for it...See for yourself... Holy crap?!"

Am I just stating the obvious?

 

[lionlurker]

If they "turn them over", does that mean they can't use them in court?

 

[marshall23]

When the presentment was "leaked" a well orchestrated plan between the highest levels of state government and a limited number of trustees went into motion. On the night Joe was "fired" without a vote, the majority of trustees were in fact primarily in the dark.
The conspirators were actually stunned at the negative response to their treachery. The condemnation of their actions reached a fever pitch when Joe died and Phil Knight properly laid the blame at the feet of The Ship of Fools. Desperate to appear to have maintained the moral high ground, the conspirators provided a rigid to do list to LF. This required not only a report that would implicate Joe, GS2 and TC in a coverup, but prolific whispers from a football connected trustee that unspecified NCAA violations had occurred. In reality a Phil Jackson triangle offense was employed using the resources of OAG, NCAA and Freeh Investigators to pin the scandal on the football program and by association Joe. Stop for a minute and think about how incredible this is. A man's crimes, who had not been associated with the football program for more than a decade and had allegedly sexually abused dozens of boys (whom he meet through The Second Mile)....... and had been vetted repeatedly by Commonwealth Agencies to foster and adopt children........were the responsibility of one Joseph Vincent Paterno! While the MSM embraced the KF and LF dog and pony show, some of us actually read the Freeh Report. Initially, the voices of reason were merely cries in the wilderness. In the years since this hoax was perpetrated the conspirators have spent on told millions of PSU dollars to hide their treachery.
The notes of the LF Investigations surely reveal that the only testimony implicating Joe came from those who were part of the plot. Exculpatory evidence was ignored. Finally, it will be revealed that no independent investigation ever took place.
This of course is just my fictional account of the way this whole sorry matter went down. Or is it?
Let's see the notes!

 

[lionroar88]

When the presentment was "leaked" a well orchestrated plan between the highest levels of state government and a limited number of trustees went into motion. On the night Joe was "fired" without a vote, the majority of trustees were in fact primarily in the dark.
The conspirators were actually stunned at the negative response to their treachery. The condemnation of their actions reached a fever pitch when Joe died and Phil Knight properly laid the blame at the feet of The Ship of Fools. Desperate to appear to have maintained the moral high ground, the conspirators provided a rigid to do list to LF. This required not only a report that would implicate Joe, GS2 and TC in a coverup, but prolific whispers from a football connected trustee that unspecified NCAA violations had occurred. In reality a Phil Jackson triangle offense was employed using the resources of OAG, NCAA and Freeh Investigators to pin the scandal on the football program and by association Joe. Stop for a minute and think about how incredible this is. A man's crimes, who had not been associated with the football program for more than a decade and had allegedly sexually abused dozens of boys (whom he meet through The Second Mile)....... and had been vetted repeatedly by Commonwealth Agencies to foster and adopt children........were the responsibility of one Joseph Vincent Paterno! While the MSM embraced the KF and LF dog and pony show, some of us actually read the Freeh Report. Initially, the voices of reason were merely cries in the wilderness. In the years since this hoax was perpetrated the conspirators have spent on told millions of PSU dollars to hide their treachery.
The notes of the LF Investigations surely reveal that the only testimony implicating Joe came from those who were part of the plot. Exculpatory evidence was ignored. Finally, it will be revealed that no independent investigation ever took place.
This of course is just my fictional account of the way this whole sorry matter went down. Or is it?
Let's see the notes!

I think you have it pretty much nailed. Anyone with 1/2 a brain could sniff this out. When the Alumni Trustees requested to see the materials related to The Freeh Investigation and were denied, everyone should have been asking 'Why? They are BoT members who have every right in the book to review this information. Who are the Executive Board trying to protect?' The answer is of course, "Themselves and every Executive Board member since 2001, and especially those EB members with ties to The Second Mile." That is why The Second Mile has yet to be investigated... because it isn't just PSU EB members at stake, there are PA State Officials at stake. The layers of this onion get more odorous as you peel them back.

 

[marshall23]

I think you have it pretty much nailed. Anyone with 1/2 a brain could sniff this out. When the Alumni Trustees requested to see the materials related to The Freeh Investigation and were denied, everyone should have been asking 'Why? They are BoT members who have every right in the book to review this information. Who are the Executive Board trying to protect?' The answer is of course, "Themselves and every Executive Board member since 2001, and especially those EB members with ties to The Second Mile." That is why The Second Mile has yet to be investigated... because it isn't just PSU EB members at stake, there are PA State Officials at stake. The layers of this onion get more odorous as you peel them back.

I believe that there are officials and trustees, none of whom have been indicted, who should face trial.

 

[simons96]

I think you have it pretty much nailed. Anyone with 1/2 a brain could sniff this out. When the Alumni Trustees requested to see the materials related to The Freeh Investigation and were denied, everyone should have been asking 'Why? They are BoT members who have every right in the book to review this information. Who are the Executive Board trying to protect?' The answer is of course, "Themselves and every Executive Board member since 2001, and especially those EB members with ties to The Second Mile." That is why The Second Mile has yet to be investigated... because it isn't just PSU EB members at stake, there are PA State Officials at stake. The layers of this onion get more odorous as you peel them back.

just take a look at the stench coming out of the Philly DAs office. Violent degrading porn is treated lightly as an HR matter, but the same guys skewered the sitting AG in the press for refusing to pursue a case the previous administration sat on for 18 months.

 

[Talpsu]

the funny thing here is that the judge is simply going to tell PSU "ok let me see these confidentiality agreements". Once they cant produce them, Oh boy!!! its going to open a HUGE DOOR. I think its safe to say that we will be reading all of these interviews VERY SOON

 

[Misder2]

the funny thing here is that the judge is simply going to tell PSU "ok let me see these confidentiality agreements". Once they cant produce them, Oh boy!!! its going to open a HUGE DOOR. I think its safe to say that we will be reading all of these interviews VERY SOON

I still don't feel that the general public should be privy to the names attached to the interviews. The info? Sure.
All members of the BOT should be privy to it all.
Just my opinion

 

[spud358]

I still don't feel that the general public should be privy to the names attached to the interviews. The info? Sure.
All members of the BOT should be privy to it all.
Just my opinion

That's a fine opinion, but opinions aren't worth a damn once things escalate to this stage. As a psychologist, I respect confidentially more than most people, but when it comes to litigation, court orders, law suits for millions, even signed confidentiality agreements sometimes need to be overlooked. When my patients sign the consent form, we review all the exceptions to confidentiality, which is not a short list and certainly includes "court orders". PSU should have explicitly explained this to all their employees and made it quite clear that there is no guarantee to confidentiality in certain situations.

The REAL tragedy here is the refusal to allow interviewees to have their own counsel present and to forbid them from recording the interviews. Given the gravity of the situation, I would have refused to cooperate without my legal counsel present. During internal investigations, which is what the Freeh report really was, employees ALWAYS have the right to private legal counsel. Not only is this allowed, but it is typically proactively conveyed and encouraged by he company. The way PSU handled this was shady as hell....

 

[Misder2]

That's a fine opinion, but opinions aren't worth a damn once things escalate to this stage. As a psychologist, I respect confidentially more than most people, but when it comes to litigation, court orders, law suits for millions, even signed confidentiality agreements sometimes need to be overlooked. When my patients sign the consent form, we review all the exceptions to confidentiality, which is not a short list and certainly includes "court orders". PSU should have explicitly explained this to all their employees and made it quite clear that there is no guarantee to confidentiality in certain situations.

The REAL tragedy here is the refusal to allow interviewees to have their own counsel present and to forbid them from recording the interviews. Given the gravity of the situation, I would have refused to cooperate without my legal counsel present. During internal investigations, which is what the Freeh report really was, employees ALWAYS have the right to private legal counsel. Not only is this allowed, but it is typically proactively conveyed and encouraged by he company. The way PSU handled this was shady as hell....

I'm not aware of confidentiality even being remotely implied to the "interviewees" and I agree, the forced lack of attorney representation is appalling at a minimum.
Yes, this was shady as hell but I don't see it as a good idea to just release everything to the general public simply to satisfy their hunger.