FC: what did Ryan say after the finals match
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Thomas Ryan@Buckeye158
Been in the sport since the 7th grade. Never seen this not called a TD! Time for college wrestling to get serious about video review.
Been in the sport since the 7th grade. Never seen this not called a TD! Time for college wrestling to get serious about video review.
That takes guts after the two times Logie bear was gifted in the finals. I will never forget the terrible stalling left unpunished when pussywillow beat Varner. Tom Ryan has had so many favorable calls he sits there in shock mode when a ref gets it right.
I'm going to Aruba baby!! I need my base tan
Tony Ramos whipped him to his back and was given nothing,notta.
Hall was in the switch position and BoJo never got behind him or broke the position. Good non-call by the refs, imo.
he's the only one who thinks so. Even the announcers said no way because Hall kept his hand behind the knee. Smart by Hall.
Some naughty person should forward his tweet to Oliver.
I sometimes think...and iirc the td by Imar is just one example...that the whole notion of "control" is getting lost with the emphasis of whether a guys hand momentarily touches down on the mat, or such.
If you have sufficient "control" of someone to be awarded a td, they should not be able to be "escaping" in a second.
If you have sufficient "control" of someone to be awarded a td, they should not be able to be "escaping" in a second.
He said, "Poor call" to the ref. R U kidding me?!!?? DaO$U complaining about calls???
I believe this is the rule on a takedown in the NCAA: A takedown shall be awarded when, from the neutral position, a contestant gains control by taking the opponent down to the mat in bounds and beyond reaction time. When a significant portion of the defensive wrestler’s weight is borne on a hand(s), it is considered control.
Thus - the issue is whether (a) Hall was taken down "beyond reaction time," and (b) is a "significant portion" of his weight borne on his hands. I think both are debatable here.
With that said, had we been on the other end of this call, we probably would be complaining as well.
Thus - the issue is whether (a) Hall was taken down "beyond reaction time," and (b) is a "significant portion" of his weight borne on his hands. I think both are debatable here.
With that said, had we been on the other end of this call, we probably would be complaining as well.
It was a very difficult call. Reaction time still exists in college wrestling in that situation - there is no reaction time after control has been established e.g. rear standing and a third point (hand, head, etc.) hits the match. A still tells as much of the story there as it does in a pinning situation - pretty much nothing.
As it were, whatever call was made on the mat - two or no two - was likely to stand. Pretty hard to have enough indisputable evidence to overturn.
As it were, whatever call was made on the mat - two or no two - was likely to stand. Pretty hard to have enough indisputable evidence to overturn.
He kicked another one with that post he wishes would not spiral.
The reason the call is the way it is now is because of the inconsistency when referee subjectivity was allowed.
Personally I thought it was a td and a reversal. My problem is if they review it they should be allowed to call 2 and 2.
He should have had his laces up and brought his hips to the party if he wanted to go ahead and get the 2. Does Gibbons have to go out there and show him how?
http://www.flowrestling.org/article...s-officiating-and-review-process#.WNB46MspDqB
Check out the comments below article too.
Check out the comments below article too.
Kind of bummed that someone in Tom Ryan's position couldn't keep his mouth shut andlet Mark have his moment. This is once in a lifetime for Mark and another day at the office for a grown man named Tom Ryan. The call was the call. How many kids left that tourney having to suck it up and keep driving on? Cutch for one had a great season and a sucky finish no tweets from him about life not being fair.
Speaking about that, I was surprised Perry didn't call a uniform grab, to give IMar a lunger. Maybe Joseph's pin happened too early, in the 3rd, and it beat Perry to the punch.
This ain't once in a lifetime for Mark. This will happen 3 more times in his career.
