First salvo on the 2018-19 schedule
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Joseph was out that match. We gave up 4 or 5 team points where Joseph would have earned 4 or 5.
And Keener and Lee were not in the lineup yet, which probably would have been a 6 point swing at 141 and Keener probably wouldn't get pinned. Not sure if everyone from Lehigh was healthy or not.
Did you just mansplain what Lemonpie already said?
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133 Parker will be a tremendous measuring stick for RBY.
141 Karam has nothing for Nick and if it I'd Verk it will be a good test for Verk, but I would expect Verk to dominate on his feet.
149 Berge wins
157 and 65 assuming good health are beat the snot out them weeks and see how the do wrestling with tired legs.
174 should be a nice test, but that's it. Just a test.
184 and 197 Bo is Bo and wherever Shak gets to he wins.
Nevills of course beats Woods, if AC another good measuring stick.
Lehigh has a shot at a win or two, but not much else.
141 Karam has nothing for Nick and if it I'd Verk it will be a good test for Verk, but I would expect Verk to dominate on his feet.
149 Berge wins
157 and 65 assuming good health are beat the snot out them weeks and see how the do wrestling with tired legs.
174 should be a nice test, but that's it. Just a test.
184 and 197 Bo is Bo and wherever Shak gets to he wins.
Nevills of course beats Woods, if AC another good measuring stick.
Lehigh has a shot at a win or two, but not much else.
Last Years results
125: #5 Darian Cruz LEH pinned Devin Schnupp PSU, WBF (1:13) / 0-6
133: #3 Scotty Parker LEH pinned Dominic Giannangeli PSU, WBF (4:12) / 0-12
141: Luke Karam LEH dec. Jered Cortez PSU, 2-0 / 0-15
149: #1 Zain Retherford PSU pinned Cortlandt Schuyler LEH, WBF (1:27) / 6-15
157: #1 Jason Nolf PSU tech fall Ian Brown LEH, 23-8 (TF; 6:40) / 11-15
165: #15 Gordon Wolf LEH maj. dec. Bo Pipher PSU, 24-12 / 11-19
174: #2 Mark Hall PSU dec. #5 Jordan Kutler LEH, 3-2 / 14-19
184: #1 Bo Nickal PSU dec. #4 Ryan Preisch LEH, 3-2 / 17-19
197: #11 Anthony Cassar PSU dec. Jake Jakobsen LEH, 8-3 / 20-19
285: #3 Nick Nevills PSU dec. #14 Jordan Wood LEH, 2-0 / 23-19
Bo Pipher took one for the team, he was listed on the roster at 141/149
125: #5 Darian Cruz LEH pinned Devin Schnupp PSU, WBF (1:13) / 0-6
133: #3 Scotty Parker LEH pinned Dominic Giannangeli PSU, WBF (4:12) / 0-12
141: Luke Karam LEH dec. Jered Cortez PSU, 2-0 / 0-15
149: #1 Zain Retherford PSU pinned Cortlandt Schuyler LEH, WBF (1:27) / 6-15
157: #1 Jason Nolf PSU tech fall Ian Brown LEH, 23-8 (TF; 6:40) / 11-15
165: #15 Gordon Wolf LEH maj. dec. Bo Pipher PSU, 24-12 / 11-19
174: #2 Mark Hall PSU dec. #5 Jordan Kutler LEH, 3-2 / 14-19
184: #1 Bo Nickal PSU dec. #4 Ryan Preisch LEH, 3-2 / 17-19
197: #11 Anthony Cassar PSU dec. Jake Jakobsen LEH, 8-3 / 20-19
285: #3 Nick Nevills PSU dec. #14 Jordan Wood LEH, 2-0 / 23-19
Bo Pipher took one for the team, he was listed on the roster at 141/149
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I was at the match. 174, 184 and 285 were very uncomfortable matches. I am convinced PSU will win, but it should still be a good early season test.
Lehigh kids won't lie down and take their beating like other teams, and if the Lions are not sharp Lehigh can with their counter approach make the Lions struggle.
I always enjoy the Lehigh match.
Lehigh last season was one of the best coaching jobs against PSU in resent memory. The Lehigh wrestlers were coach very well for each opponent, it made for a very interesting match.
A bit of history...
The Penn State vs Lehigh in-state rivalry is among the longest continuous annual duals meet streaks in the country. PSU has wrestled Lehigh every year since and including 1934, or 86 consecutive years in 2018-19. Prior to that, we wrestled Lehigh every year, 1911 through 1925, followed by an 8-year break leading up to the 1934 season.
My best recollections during my PSU student years are that the Lehigh Dual was the best-attended, most raucous, and enjoyable dual of the season.
The Penn State vs Lehigh in-state rivalry is among the longest continuous annual duals meet streaks in the country. PSU has wrestled Lehigh every year since and including 1934, or 86 consecutive years in 2018-19. Prior to that, we wrestled Lehigh every year, 1911 through 1925, followed by an 8-year break leading up to the 1934 season.
My best recollections during my PSU student years are that the Lehigh Dual was the best-attended, most raucous, and enjoyable dual of the season.
Lehigh/Penn State matches were the way I was first exposed to collegiate wrestling via rebroadcast of Channel 39's productions on Channel 33 in Hershey.
I'm really over Lehigh.
Cael's introduced to us such a spectacular style of offensive wrestling, and a number of programs and wrestlers are adopting it, such that Lehigh's style just looks super plodding anymore.
After last year's dual, I wrote about Lehigh & Wrestling Not to Lose
Going forward, I'm going to try to be less vocally negative on this long-standing rivalry. But looking around the country at some of these growing programs and awesome-looking home dual environments, it's hard not to pine for some freshness.
Cael's introduced to us such a spectacular style of offensive wrestling, and a number of programs and wrestlers are adopting it, such that Lehigh's style just looks super plodding anymore.
After last year's dual, I wrote about Lehigh & Wrestling Not to Lose
Going forward, I'm going to try to be less vocally negative on this long-standing rivalry. But looking around the country at some of these growing programs and awesome-looking home dual environments, it's hard not to pine for some freshness.
I did the bsd recap for this one; here's what I wrote about Pipher:
165 Gordon Wolf MD Bo Pipher 24-12; Lehigh 19-11
Another fighter! Penn State backups wrestled like they were inspired by Bill O’Brien today. Vincenzo Joseph did not weigh in, and Bo Pipher weighed in at 155.6 in his stead. Gordon Wolf looked and wrestled like he had 10+ pounds on Pipher, but was unable to end the bout prematurely, either by Technical Fall or Pin.
Pipher got a takedown in the middle of the second period that surprised everybody, except himself apparently. He wore out in the third period, though, finally succumbing to Wolf’s size and strength and he demonstrated how gassed he was. Wolf looked understandably disappointed at the end, and fairly tired himself.
That was a great moment by and for Pipher. That's one of the things I love about Penn State wrestling. Guys step up and do their best (and sometimes a little more) and it's appreciated by their fans.
Lehigh wins 125 (Schram), 133 (Parker), and maybe 285 (Wood). PSU sweeps the rest. And those 3 weights aren't completely givens for Lehigh.
Fond flashback remembering back to last years dual....
I was travelling to my wife's holiday party the day of the dual, listening the last couple of matches on PSU radio. We got to the party half way through Nevills match and I made the Mrs wait in the car until the finish and the victory was secured.
The Mrs wasn't thrilled about listening to wrestling while the holiday party started. But that was some intense drama and I wasn't going to miss it. That was a close call. With our win streak and our dominant string of titles, we are always going to get the other teams best, especially on the road. I enjoy the Lehigh rivalry, especially when we go there.
I was travelling to my wife's holiday party the day of the dual, listening the last couple of matches on PSU radio. We got to the party half way through Nevills match and I made the Mrs wait in the car until the finish and the victory was secured.
The Mrs wasn't thrilled about listening to wrestling while the holiday party started. But that was some intense drama and I wasn't going to miss it. That was a close call. With our win streak and our dominant string of titles, we are always going to get the other teams best, especially on the road. I enjoy the Lehigh rivalry, especially when we go there.
Are you talking about Stabler Arena? I wouldn't call that on campus. On campus is Grace Hall which doesn't hold anything close to 5K.
...Lehigh's Stabler Arena (5,600) was opened in 1979, ostensibly to accommodate a growing interest in Lehigh basketball and wrestling, which had supposedly outgrown the capacity of Grace Hall (2,200) - which was on campus and within walking distance for students and nearby Lehigh "subway" fans from the surrounding South Bethlehem neighborhood. Unfortunately for Lehigh, things did not work out as expected for several reasons ... the subway fans have grown older and their attendance has declined, the addition of women to the student body has lessened the overall interest in sporting events, students have not been attracted to Stabler, which is a couple of miles away "over the hill" and the teams have not been successful enough to attract a larger following.
As a result the updated Grace Hall (where a makeover resulted in a reduced capacity to about 1,800) has proven sufficient for all but the most attractive opponents ( Penn State and Oklahoma State) and will probably remain so for the future.
As a result the updated Grace Hall (where a makeover resulted in a reduced capacity to about 1,800) has proven sufficient for all but the most attractive opponents ( Penn State and Oklahoma State) and will probably remain so for the future.
Lemonpie agrees with the "attractive ... Penn State" part. Especially with regard to last season's 197 weight class.
It's over 3 miles from Grace to Stabler - and up and down a small mountain. Don't they have buses for the students?
I wouldn't be surprised if the PPL Center in Allentown would be the home for all future Lehigh home matches against Penn State. It seemed like the event was a great success.
My only complaint was not seats on the floor six rows off the mat... the mat was raised too high for the floor seats to really enjoy.
And leaving the parking garage was AWFUL.
Being from the Lehigh Valley I grew up watching Lehigh wrestling on local TV. They would have a couple of kids from the area that I would follow from local high schools. Bobby Weaver , Mark and Bernie Brown to mention a few. It was in the early 80s when I would go see them wrestle against some better national teams. To this day Daryl Burley is one the greatest wrestlers I ever saw in person.
It was at that time when I would make it a point to go every other year to the Penn State match at Stabler.. I eventually changed my rooting interest and by 1998 I went to PSU match when they had Billlman against Lehigh. After the match I went to the local watering hole the Tally Ho and Fritz came in after the victory to have a few.. We discussed how Iowa had an advantage in the endowment funding.
Who would know in 12 years that Penn State would start to turn the tables on Iowa and the other national programs.
It was at that time when I would make it a point to go every other year to the Penn State match at Stabler.. I eventually changed my rooting interest and by 1998 I went to PSU match when they had Billlman against Lehigh. After the match I went to the local watering hole the Tally Ho and Fritz came in after the victory to have a few.. We discussed how Iowa had an advantage in the endowment funding.
Who would know in 12 years that Penn State would start to turn the tables on Iowa and the other national programs.
Wonder what would happen if they go back to the smaller venue in two years.....and don't send too many tix our way.....
somewhere Tan Tom is snickering and saying not how we would have done it under his breath
Two easy solutions. One, don't get floor seats. This happened to me and a friend during the Peter Gabriel "Growing Up Live" tour. We had floor seats with a raised stage and couldn't see the really cool stage changes. Luckily we were able to migrate to seats in the "stands" and get a much better view. I'm always leery of floor seats after that experience. Two, park on the street. There was plenty of on-street parking nearby.
My first time there, I will park better next time.
As for floor seats, I didn't expect the mat to be so high. Six rows off a low mat would be freaking awesome.
"We discussed how Iowa had an advantage in the endowment funding."
Yeah, that and 7.39 extra scholarships (audited over a 4 year period that probably really happened from 1979_80 through the1990_91 academic years). Note that the Big Ten accounting rule was different than the NCAA rule, but OSU, MSU, and Northwestern followed the NCAA rules
I was on the floor, too. Will know better next time. Parked on Hamilton for free less than 2 blocks from the arena. No problem getting out of town.
I thought Stabler was built mainly for external event revenue generation, such as concerts. No?
This is a fascinating & detailed comment. Any chance you can share links to these sources? tia
This link should direct you to the PDF, from the NCAA Committee on Infractions
Very interesting reading. Big Ten put a rule in that was contrary to the NCAA of how aide was calculated using out-of-state equivalencies (1978). NCAA told the Big Ten their rule needed to be amended as it was contrary to NCAA rules (1979). Big Ten tried to get this passed nationally, but it was rejected by the NCAA (1984). Big Ten rescinded the rule in 1990. NCAA started investigating in 1991 and requested audits in 1992. 1993 the 7 institutions admitted they were wrong (OSU, MSU and Northwestern had the sense to follow the NCAA rules).
For the wrestling part (remember this affected a few minor sports and not just wrestling), the seven schools had these audited extra scholarships over the 4 year period of the audit:
Illinois: 0.0
Indiana: 1.74
Iowa: 7.39
Michigan: 0.60
Minnesota: 1.73
Purdue: 0.0
Wisconsin: 0.865
Which number jumps out the most? Iowa had 60% of the illegal wrestling scholarships across the Big Ten. Second most was Iowa Baseball at 6.83 and Indiana baseball at 5.36. Illinois, Michigan, Purdue and Wisconsin had very small infractions (all less than Iowa's Wrestling portion).
Now, it is interesting that Iowa started a nine year NCAA run from 1978-1986, exactly when the new rule took place!!!! They certainly had the greatest coach ever, but while others were limited to 11 scholarships, Iowa was using an extra 1.85 per year. Imagine if any top 5 program now had an extra 1.85 scholarships!!
Enjoy the reading. While the Big Ten was censured, every program knew they were violating the NCAA rules.
https://web3.ncaa.org/lsdbi/search/miCaseView/report?id=101820
How is it that Vodka wasn't reporting on this. Seems he's only become interested in alleged NCAA violations more recently
Vodka is currently the NCAA Compliance admin at Iowa, with a specific task to make certain no wrestlers use the NCAA banned saunas.How is it that Vodka wasn't reporting on this. Seems he's only become interested in alleged NCAA violations more recently
This needs to be pinned for easy access when Cael is attacked
Too bad the audit didn’t span the whole period
Cael? I am uncertain if Cael is ever attacked. Apparently there is some guy named Carl who is affiliated with the program and he is really disliked over on HR. I have never been able to find out who this guy is, but my God all the things he does he must be a really bad dude.
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