No...he's complaining (incorrectly) about the time frame not that he can move and cash in
and that time frame is part of the current landscape of college football... which is what I was responding to...
No...he's complaining (incorrectly) about the time frame not that he can move and cash in
But the key word there was "incorrectly" and then we simply disagree on that being what the discussion was because I don't see "the timeframe" being part of the current landscape.and that time frame is part of the current landscape of college football... which is what I was responding to...
Scary thing is how uncontrolled these kids agents are..and why more NFL agents don't start jumping into this huge cashflow..I understand NFL agents are paid somewhere between 2%-3% ? College agents..20% ? Wow...20% off of a $12 million College offer for the ex LSU QB going to Michigan...just unbelievable..Why are there letters of intent?
There is only one way out of this, a collective bargaining agreement. The problem is, there is no "collective" in college football. Without that, it is going to continue to be the wild, wild west. So the NCAA is going to have to get a group of influential players together and form a "collective". That would probably be in the form of a union.
right now, anyone is doing whatever they want and daring the universities and NIL collectives to sue them. That would carry really bad optics. So the players are simply free to roam the ranges and graze wherever they want. That isn't a sustainable mode.
But the key word there was "incorrectly" and then we simply disagree on that being what the discussion was because I don't see "the timeframe" being part of the current landscape.
If Beau is truly mad about the process then he's an idiot because this process benefits people like him more than anyone
Again, he's only complaining to avoid being criticized--it's insincere.
yeah. But again, NFL pay is largely dictated by the CBA. A player, agent and owner can look at what has been and being offered and make a decision. (Browns offer to Watson was and is a travesty). Colleges are still sorting all this out. There are few precedents or well-worn paths. They are making it up as they go along.Scary thing is how uncontrolled these kids agents are..and why more NFL agents don't start jumping into this huge cashflow..I understand NFL agents are paid somewhere between 2%-3% ? College agents..20% ? Wow...20% off of a $12 million College offer for the ex LSU QB going to Michigan...just unbelievable..
Guess now is def the time to jump into this before things are figured out..these agents can make a damn killing right now...yeah. But again, NFL pay is largely dictated by the CBA. A player, agent and owner can look at what has been and being offered and make a decision. (Browns offer to Watson was and is a travesty). Colleges is still sorting all this out. There are few precedents or well-worn paths. They are making it up as they go along.
Yep, CFB will be like MLB.If the NFL didn't have a salary cap, many teams like Green Bay would have no hope of competing for anything, and many teams in the NHL and NBA no longer would exist if those leagues didn't have salary caps. The same thing is going to happen with college football if some regulations aren't imposed. If you would be happy with having a Super Conference in which the same 12 or 15 teams play each other every season, then let the current system exist as it is.
Unless some changes are made, I foresee many D-1 schools at best significantly downgrading its football program because they either can't compete ecomonically anymore and/or they just doesn't want to. Fortunately, PSU probably still would be in that group of 12 or 15 that still can compete economically, but that could change.
Correct...the time frame has nothing to do with the overall landscape especially when using Beau's inaccurate tweet. How is it? Maybe I'm wrong.The timeline of the transfer portal isn't part of the current football landscape? That's what you're actually saying?
So you're solution is the Big Ten shares money with CUSA and the Sun Belt?yeah. But again, NFL pay is largely dictated by the CBA. A player, agent and owner can look at what has been and being offered and make a decision. (Browns offer to Watson was and is a travesty). Colleges are still sorting all this out. There are few precedents or well-worn paths. They are making it up as they go along.
And MLB is still doing well, right?Yep, CFB will be like MLB.
Oh I’m a serious believer in capitalism and I don’t take any of this personal, believe me. Beau did what was best for Beau and I don’t begrudge him.The beauty of the free market is that the 18-22 year old does not need nor want your approval or commentary on what’s in their best interest. It’s their decision to make. I see nothing wrong with that.
Seems to me some fans are just resentful and jealous of these young athletes making boatloads of money. Not saying you are one of them, but I believe there are some fans that feel that way. Acting like jilted lovers when a player transfers is absurd. People do what’s in their best interest, not what you think is in their best interest. It’s a key attribute of a free market.
This is the new world order. You can embrace it and strategize on how to win, or continue to look into the past while competitors pass you by.
Correct...the time frame has nothing to do with the overall landscape especially when using Beau's inaccurate tweet. How is it? Maybe I'm wrong.
It's as if some of the players are more interested in getting themselves into a position to compete for the 2025 CFPI championship than actually participating in and winning this year's national championship.The SMU coach was complaining about all the contacts being made to his players from other teams while he was trying to prepare for a playoff game during his most recent press conference
I see a whole lot of complaints and not a single school DOING anything about it.
And if some of these millionaire kids turn out to be flops in the pros, they can always just choose another sport and identify as girls! We sure aren't going back to the old days.There are millions of college football viewers who say otherwise.
The interest in the game is at historic levels. It’s here for the long term. We are not going back to the old days dependent on ridiculous and outdated NCAA regulations and other anti free market policies. The lawyers will see to that.
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Everyone jumped on the NIL/portal train claiming that it was good for 18 to 22 year old athletes who were being exploited. All they were being offered was free housing, free food, free books and a free $100,000 to $400,000 education.
Actions have consequences.
How is it? I don't understand what it matters when the windows are. Especially since they're not discussing them correctly. The semester ends...kids can leave.How is the timing that transfers are allowed not part of the overall landscape?
So I respect this because it's honestOh I’m a serious believer in capitalism and I don’t take any of this personal, believe me. Beau did what was best for Beau and I don’t begrudge him.
I am guilty of being an old man who loved college football because of the pageantry, regional rivalries, school loyalty and amateurism. Can’t deny that.
My interest in the game going forward remains to be seen. I do know this, it seems a lot more like a farm system than it does like college athletics. Right now, it’s a free for all. The SMU coach was complaining about all the contacts being made to his players from other teams while he was trying to prepare for a playoff game during his most recent press conference. Being a college coach was hectic enough prior to all the changes. Now coaches have to recruit their own players, steal/flip other team’s roster players, recruit high school players and raise NIL money. Seems overwhelming.
And if some of these millionaire kids turn out to be flops in the pros, they can always just choose another sport and identify as girls! We sure aren't going back to the old days.
No it is not. He has a contract and can go anywhere if he wants but there will be consequences. Do what you want but have contracts that clearly lay out the implications. What you are hyping up as the best thing since sliced bread is a complete cluster of no contracts or agreements. Just lies and broken promises with no accountability. Go wherever whenever but remember you signed an agreement. If Kotelnicki had no contract and can just leave with no consequences then that is ridiculous which is what you are promoting. But he has a contract so you can break it but there are consequences.I don’t disagree with you philosophically speaking. I would insist you impose the same structure or constraints on coaches. Kotelnicki looking to interview with other teams during a playoff run was ridiculous.
You get my point. Good.You are getting way too emotional about this topic. Not sure why you interjected the word “hate” in your comments. This has been a very cordial exchange of opinions and ideas within this thread until you posted your comments.
I live in the real world. Whether you like it or not, money rules. Period. No amount of bellyaching or complaining will change the harsh realities of life. The players are not doing anything illegal. Leveraging the current system to obtain a better offer is not a criminal offense. College Football will survive. Don’t take things so personal and relax a little. You will feel better.
What were the consequences of AK leaving for him?No it is not. He has a contract and can go anywhere if he wants but there will be consequences. Do what you want but have contracts that clearly lay out the implications. What you are hyping up as the best thing since sliced bread is a complete cluster of no contracts or agreements. Just lies and broken promises with no accountability. Go wherever whenever but remember you signed an agreement. If Kotelnicki had no contract and can just leave with no consequences then that is ridiculous which is what you are promoting. But he has a contract so you can break it but there are consequences.
You get my point. Good.
I don't know the numbers but I'll take a guess. There are 134 D1 football schools with each school recruiting roughly 25 players or 3,350 per year. Roughly 7.5% (254) get drafted each year. Only 70% of those (178) make a 53 man NFL roster.The players are winning the most here. More than the agents. Coaches hate it. Old school fans hate it because they dislike change but there's not a single player that is upset that they can cash in and move.
That's always been true regarding how many make it and some get an education while some don't--they at least get money for playing nowI don't know the numbers but I'll take a guess. There are 134 D1 football schools with each school recruiting roughly 25 players or 3,350 per year. Roughly 7.5% (254) get drafted each year. Only 70% of those (178) make a 53 man NFL roster.
In other words 95% don't have a professional career unless they go to the XFL. Many who do make a roster get cut after a year or two. I'd say that the reduced focus on academics is hurting the majority of players, especially considering that the average player only makes a few thousand per year.
A lot of school used to spend time and money making sure athletes went to class and had the academic help which was needed to graduate. Not so sure that will continue under this new free for all. Do players even have to be enrolled to play presently?That's always been true regarding how many make it and some get an education while some don't--they at least get money for playing now
All of this is a choice--get an education or don't
Yes, they need to be enrolledA lot of school used to spend time and money making sure athletes went to class and had the academic help which was needed to graduate. Not so sure that will continue under this new free for all. Do players even have to be enrolled to play presently?
Yep, CFB will be like MLB.
Please dont say everyone because its not true. This portal/NIL is a complete disaster. It has ruined College football.Everyone jumped on the NIL/portal train claiming that it was good for 18 to 22 year old athletes who were being exploited. All they were being offered was free housing, free food, free books and a free $100,000 to $400,000 education.
Actions have consequences.
How so? Indiana just made the playoff. So did Boise State and ASU? Isn't it more inclusive than ever?Please dont say everyone because its not true. This portal/NIL is a complete disaster. It has ruined College football.
I dont know the NIL $ money invoved with these teams you mentioned. There will come a time when NIL money will clearly determine the best teams in college football. It wont be long until players like Pribula will receive significant NIL money to remain as a back up QB. Just saying. Hoping Drew doesnt get injured. If this happens we are in deep trouble.How so? Indiana just made the playoff. So did Boise State and ASU? Isn't it more inclusive than ever?
If Drew was injured we weren't winning a title regardless but who knows...there's no reason that Grunk can't step in and be at least as effective as Beau.I dont know the NIL $ money invoved with these teams you mentioned. There will come a time when NIL money will clearly determine the best teams in college football. It wont be long until players like Pribula will receive significant NIL money to remain as a back up QB. Just saying. Hoping Drew doesnt get injured. If this happens we are in deep trouble.
You have no basis to say thatIf Drew was injured we weren't winning a title regardless but who knows...there's no reason that Grunk can't step in and be at least as effective as Beau.
Why are smaller schools going to get top players like Carter?If Drew was injured we weren't winning a title regardless but who knows...there's no reason that Grunk can't step in and be at least as effective as Beau.
Smaller programs are going to get the Abdul Carter guys but look at how Indiana was almost entirely built through the portal. It allows kids an opportunity they didn't have. Ultimately that's a good thing. Once in a while someone is chasing money (Bear Alexander as an example) but most just want to play or feel like their current situation is a disaster (Nebraska and USC for examples) and they need out.
Sorry--aren't which you knew--I'll fix itWhy are smaller schools going to get top players like Carter?